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He left out that with the same record, South Carolina and Alabama’s SOS national ranks are 15th and 16th, respectively, while Ole Miss’s is 31st.

Also, South Carolina and Alabama don’t have anything on their resume like Ole Miss’s loss at home to 4-8 (Ole Miss and 7) Kentucky.
 
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He can campaign all he wants, but the committee isn't listening.

I don't think any 3 loss team should make it unless they win their conference championship game, or there just isn't any other team worthy. I think if Miami beats SMU then this is pretty much put to rest.

I hate this talk of "brand". The committee has to use subjective factors, but none of those factors should be based on a team's national reputation. But if Bama does get in, then people will say it was because of their "brand".

And maybe they would be right. Those losses to Vandy and OU should be bad enough to eliminate Alabama.
 
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I think Ole Miss fans pretty much know they aren’t in the CFP. The headline of this tweet for their insecure fans is their coach believing he isn’t in the playoffs because Ole Miss is lacking when it comes to brand.
 
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I didn't read it but did he mention they loss to KY, FL and LSU all unranked teams?
 
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Walkthedawg said:
The fact that we have 3 loss teams begging for their national championship playoff lives may indicate the 4 team playoff was indeed enough.
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If thats the case then let’s go back to just the BCS style national championship with 2 teams or better yet let’s just crown a champion without playing a game against each other like the old days.

It’s the same thing as teams arguing about the bubble in March Madness. Those schools have a very low chance of winning it all but still want to get in. Same with the 12 team playoff.
 
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Dawgzilla2 said:
I don't think any 3 loss team should make it unless they win their conference championship game, or there just isn't any other team worthy.
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Why? Is this 1998? Other metrics besides JUST record should be used. Not all schedules are created equally.

I know what you're trying to say, and Ole Miss does not deserve to make this particular playoff, but you can't just throw out blanket statements like that.
 
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OG Goat Holder said:
Why? Is this 1998? Other metrics besides JUST record should be used. Not all schedules are created equally.

I know what you're trying to say, and Ole Miss does not deserve to make this particular playoff, but you can't just throw out blanket statements like that.
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Yes, I can throw out blanket statements like that. 3 losses should be all but disqualifying. I left some wiggle room in there for extreme circumstances, but losing 25% of your games should pretty much knock a team out of the playoffs.

I wouldn't even argue strength of schedule, although strength of losses could be considered....and Bama has 2 ugly losses. UMiss at least only lost to one team with a losing record.

Now, if that third loss comes in a conference championship game, I would be willing to excuse it.
 
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Dawgzilla2 said:
Yes, I can throw out blanket statements like that. 3 losses should be all but disqualifying. I left some wiggle room in there for extreme circumstances, but losing 25% of your games should pretty much knock a team out of the playoffs.

I wouldn't even argue strength of schedule, although strength of losses could be considered....and Bama has 2 ugly losses. UMiss at least only lost to one team with a losing record.

Now, if that third loss comes in a conference championship game, I would be willing to excuse it.
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Well you certainly CAN, I suppose. Doesn't make it less stupid and old time thinking.

Hopefully they'll expand the playoff again and your line of thinking will be even moreso a thing of the past.
 
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Picture of Kiffin while typing that out.

 
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I don't think the SEC should be punished for having a three loss team that made it to the SEC Championship game, assuming Texas can beat UGA.

That said, the only teams that should get in from the SEC are UGA Tenn and Texas.

Bama, OM, USC-east, MO, had SH!!T schedules and really bad losses.

Give the other teams with better records and less baggage a chance.

I suspect the SEC may not be all that this year and might end up being 0-fers in the playoffs.
 
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Well you certainly CAN, I suppose. Doesn't make it less stupid and old time thinking.

Hopefully they'll expand the playoff again and your line of thinking will be even moreso a thing of the past.
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How is it "old time thinking" to expect teams to earn their way into the playoffs?

Besides making more money, the playoffs were expanded to allow more deserving teams in: conference champions, G5 teams, and P5 teams who were borderline. It wasn't expanded to male regular season losses meaningless.

ETA: Since we don't want to discourage those early season games against quality non conference opponents, I would give consideration to a 3 loss team if 1 of those losses was in such a game.
 
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Walkthedawg said:
The fact that we have 3 loss teams begging for their national championship playoff lives may indicate the 4 team playoff was indeed enough.
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I think a 4 team playoff selected by the BCS with no conference guarantees would be enough most years as there usually aren't 4 teams that would have a realistic chance of winning a larger playoff.

This year I think is an anomaly, as I don't think there is a great team and the 10th-12th best teams, which will be out of the playoffs because of automatic qualifiers could plausibly upset any of the best teams. Probably can't run through a 3 game playoff unscathed, but if there are a couple of upsets that result in some lower seeds playing each other, it'd definitely be possible and not require some crazy sequence of events.

Or at least I think this year is an anomaly. Maybe with NIL you really just aren't going to see dominant teams as often.
 
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11thEagleFan said:
Maybe don’t lose to Kentucky. Or Florida. Or your “real rival” LSU. This is pitiful.
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They were favored in ALL 3 LOSSES. Plus they only scored 1 TD in the 2nd half of all of those games. Not 3 TD's, only 1 in 6 combined quarters
 
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OG Goat Holder said:
Why? Is this 1998? Other metrics besides JUST record should be used. Not all schedules are created equally.

I know what you're trying to say, and Ole Miss does not deserve to make this particular playoff, but you can't just throw out blanket statements like that.
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You do it all the time
 
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