Kind of nice to see Saban with his panties in a bunch.....

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Saban crying about only assembling the 2nd best class. And an emotional response from Jimbo at TAM.

 
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I'm not a big NIL fan, as it's currently structured, and I've stated that a few times on here. There are always unintended consequences. There may be some consequences that nobody identifies up front that could favor the northern schools. Obviously Saban and Swinney have some concern based on how outspoken they've been on the issue. They must feel threatened and NIL could lead to a shift in the balance of power. When it comes down to it, while they are fanatical about football, Alabama is one of the poorer states in the country. Can they stack up financially with the wealthier ones in the long run?

Another reason why NIL should run directly through the schools and a salary cap should be instituted.

It's funny to see these guys take shots at each other, though. I feel like it's a throwback to past college football eras.
 
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I'm not a big NIL fan, as it's currently structured, and I've stated that a few times on here. There are always unintended consequences. There may be some consequences that nobody identifies up front that could favor the northern schools. Obviously Saban and Swinney have some concern based on how outspoken they've been on the issue. They must feel threatened and NIL could lead to a shift in the balance of power. When it comes down to it, while they are fanatical about football, Alabama is one of the poorer states in the country. Can they stack up financially with the wealthier ones in the long run?

Another reason why NIL should run directly through the schools and a salary cap should be instituted.

It's funny to see these guys take shots at each other, though. I feel like it's a throwback to past college football eras.
Well the NIL isn't going to run directly through the schools and there isn't going to be any "salary cap". If the NCAA hadn't been so greedy and oblivious to the players' complaints for decades, maybe this would have been worked out. But not now.
 

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Not a NIL fan but to be fair I don’t have an in-depth understanding, however it seems to have leveled the field to a degree.
 
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Not a NIL fan but to be fair I don’t have an in-depth understanding, however it seems to have leveled the field to a degree.
I'm interested to know why you believe NIL will level the playing field. When the top high school players, and players that have developed into top college players at outlier schools, are motivated to the teams that have the most NIL money to distribute, how does that level the playing field?

Sure, it's not the colleges that directly distribute NIL money. But the teams with the most fans, the biggest brands, the richest alumni, the widest media coverage, the most business sponsors, will have the most NIL money flowing to their targeted players.

And it has been proven by Saban that any team that can attract a roster that is consistently more loaded with talent can win disproportionately even with an average coach, which is what Saban is. He never won a thing until he got to the SEC where he could cheat like crazy, and then transferred to Bama where he could cheat even crazier.
 
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The next saban-jimbo post-game “handshake” should be interesting.
 

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I'm interested to know why you believe NIL will level the playing field. When the top high school players, and players that have developed into top college players at outlier schools, are motivated to the teams that have the most NIL money to distribute, how does that level the playing field?

Sure, it's not the colleges that directly distribute NIL money. But the teams with the most fans, the biggest brands, the richest alumni, the widest media coverage, the most business sponsors, will have the most NIL money flowing to their targeted players.

And it has been proven by Saban that any team that can attract a roster that is consistently more loaded with talent can win disproportionately even with an average coach.
Perhaps I should have qualified within the Power 5 conferences. I can only assume what Jimbo was referring to regarding recruiting practices at Alabama and Saban however A&M certainly recruited at a very high level staying within the NIL frame work. Could they have had the same level of success without NIL? I am not certain they could have assumingely out recruited Alabama under pre-NIL accepted practices.
 

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I guess Travis was offered a $heet load from Flordia state......



"The ‘Bag Man’ booster has had a hand (and bank account) in recruiting for as long as most of us have been alive, which is why Saban’s rant doesn’t quite add up. And now former college football players are calling him out for what they perceive to be lies.

Former Florida State defensive end Travis Johnson went on to be drafted in the first round of the 2005 NFL Draft by Houston. Prior to his collegiate and NFL career, Johnson was a five-star recruit in the Class of 2000 and the No. 4 overall recruit in the nation.

He responded to Saban’s claim that Alabama did not buy one player on Wednesday night. In turn, Johnson said that the Crimson Tide offered him six figures during his recruitment and brought up the recruitment of Albert Means.

Means was a former five-star defensive tackle in the same class as Johnson whose recruitment involved illegal financial compensation. He and his coaches were offered a large sum of money in exchange for his commitment and Alabama ultimately got caught by the FBI. It even led, whether directly or indirectly, to the death of a convicted booster."
 
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Perhaps I should have qualified within the Power 5 conferences. I can only assume what Jimbo was referring to regarding recruiting practices at Alabama and Saban however A&M certainly recruited at a very high level staying within the NIL frame work. Could they have had the same level of success without NIL? I am not certain they could have assumingely out recruited Alabama under pre-NIL accepted practices.


Mediocre Mike loved to take shots at Joe.
 

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If I remember correctly, QB called an audible or something along those lines, you could tell Joe wasn't happy about it either, but he certainly wasn't going to let Graber say that to him.
 

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“There are some concerning trends,” Southeastern Conference Commissioner Greg Sankey told Yahoo Finance. “We're not seeing name image and likeness activity — we're seeing just straight payments. And I think it's important that we recenter ourselves on what's supposed to be happening here and the desire to keep that activity out of recruitment to benefit young people economically but to do so in a healthy way.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sec-...-seeing-just-straight-payments-174126956.html
 

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“There are some concerning trends,” Southeastern Conference Commissioner Greg Sankey told Yahoo Finance. “We're not seeing name image and likeness activity — we're seeing just straight payments. And I think it's important that we recenter ourselves on what's supposed to be happening here and the desire to keep that activity out of recruitment to benefit young people economically but to do so in a healthy way.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sec-...-seeing-just-straight-payments-174126956.html
Shocker!!! Who in god's name didn't see that happening from the onset?
 
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“There are some concerning trends,” Southeastern Conference Commissioner Greg Sankey told Yahoo Finance. “We're not seeing name image and likeness activity — we're seeing just straight payments. And I think it's important that we recenter ourselves on what's supposed to be happening here and the desire to keep that activity out of recruitment to benefit young people economically but to do so in a healthy way.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sec-...-seeing-just-straight-payments-174126956.html

Misunderstanding.
 

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Sorry, Nick's best skill set is stretching rules and putting together a win at all cost program to assemble a dominating roster of talent that even with his mediocre coaching skills can dominate college football.

 
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