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they stop practice and ridicule any hitter that moves to avoid being hit by the ball. That is why they are so good at it. There motto is "We dont move!" It does get in the pitchers head when they are right on the plate and are going nowhere! Im not sure our fragile, little ones could handle this.
they would move.
But you're right, about MSU and getting hit by a pitch. I remember the Mayor's Trophy Game we had the bases loaded and were down a run with two outs, and Matt Richardson could have easily gotten hit by a pitch- I think it went behind his back- instead of tying the game, he strikes out and we lose.
Only time in my life I went drinking after a game during the work week.
But you're right, about MSU and getting hit by a pitch. I remember the Mayor's Trophy Game we had the bases loaded and were down a run with two outs, and Matt Richardson could have easily gotten hit by a pitch- I think it went behind his back- instead of tying the game, he strikes out and we lose.
Only time in my life I went drinking after a game during the work week.
how is potentially scoring pusified?
should you refuse the FT after being hacked on a dunk?
Should you just knock down an INT close to your own endzone?
your and idiot
should you refuse the FT after being hacked on a dunk?
Should you just knock down an INT close to your own endzone?
your and idiot
Your comparisons are all wrong. if a basketball player is fouled, he is rewarded with ft's (legal), if a defender int's a ball they get they ball (legal)
If a baseball player sticks his damn arm or knee IN THE STRIKE ZONE,...OVER THE PLATE..
The ump should have some damn balls, and know from the reputation of the team.. put his *** back in the box. The batter has not earned anything.
But then again, I will always say this.. in any sport, you take what is given..until its not given any more. If the umps wont enforce the rules, then fair enough for Uk to take advantage. But its still not right.
If a baseball player sticks his damn arm or knee IN THE STRIKE ZONE,...OVER THE PLATE..
The ump should have some damn balls, and know from the reputation of the team.. put his *** back in the box. The batter has not earned anything.
But then again, I will always say this.. in any sport, you take what is given..until its not given any more. If the umps wont enforce the rules, then fair enough for Uk to take advantage. But its still not right.
How do you feel about stealing signs? Or switching to basketball, how do you feel about playing very physical defense (aka fouling) when the refs are allowing you to play? To me, it's no different here. If the ump continues to reward you for stretching the rules, continue to do so. You obviously agree with me that you should take advantage of what you can which is good.
Responding to cowbell though, I still don't see how cheating legally is a ***** move. If it helps you score runs, then do it. I know that we shouldn't do it at MSU because it will just allow us to set an NCAA record for most DPs hit into on the year.
Responding to cowbell though, I still don't see how cheating legally is a ***** move. If it helps you score runs, then do it. I know that we shouldn't do it at MSU because it will just allow us to set an NCAA record for most DPs hit into on the year.
ok, fair enough debunking my comparisons, but what I guess I meant more along the lines of the "Matt Richardson" kind of situation that was described above. I agree that someone shouldn't try to gain an unfair advantage, although part of being a part of a team is doing what it takes to not let your teammates down and having to sacrifice to win the game.
If that means taking a pitch in the back, or taking a skipping grounder in the face(Russ Sneed) so be it.
If that means taking a pitch in the back, or taking a skipping grounder in the face(Russ Sneed) so be it.
is predicated on crowding the plate. They really focus on making pitchers throw them outside and being so close to the plate you get a solid hit on an outside pitch. Hitting the inside pitch is more difficult to hit from their position on the plate. Keeping their hands inside the ball is crucial. I have taken alot of his strategy on hitting approach to my coaching philosophy and you can really help an average hitter excel. The outside pitch is usually difficult to handle, but if you are on the plate it is like hitting one right down the middle for a hitter in a normal stance on the plate. Just my opinion, but I really like his approach to hitting. It is like any other sport, you hate it when teams do things like this to your team that applys added pressure, especially when you dont do it or cant stop it. If the umpire gives it take it, if he doesnt adjust.
What about all those times that Gordon does a ballfake to get his defender in the air and then jumps into him to draw a foul? Is that cheating? How about those times when a player sets up to take a charge?
This is simple, you send a hard thrower in the game and instruct him to throw it as hard as he can right at them. After he gets thrown out you go to another hard thrower. Pretty soon they will either get the message or they'll be spending a lot of time in the whirlpool.
This is simple, you send a hard thrower in the game and instruct him to throw it as hard as he can right at them. After he gets thrown out you go to another hard thrower. Pretty soon they will either get the message or they'll be spending a lot of time in the whirlpool.
If you don't make a legitimate attempt to get out of the way of the ball, you're not supposed to be awarded first base. I bet I could count on one hand the number of times I've seen that called, but it should be called on teams like Kentucky that flagrantly stand there and crowd the plate and don't move.
but its a point of emphasis in HS. I also taught crowding the plate with most of our hitters. We would eat LH'ers alive. My last season we probably were cheated by the umpire 8-9 times when hit by a pitch. I even got tossed over it once.
It takes some courage by your players when a pitcher is getting it up there around 90 for them to dig in and take the inside away from a pitcher. As a pitcher, you have to do whats necessary to take it back, even if it means a little head-hunting. Storm's idea is a little extreme, but he has the right idea. You have to pitch inside when they crowd you, and you will be amazed how they will move their head out of the way every time.
It takes some courage by your players when a pitcher is getting it up there around 90 for them to dig in and take the inside away from a pitcher. As a pitcher, you have to do whats necessary to take it back, even if it means a little head-hunting. Storm's idea is a little extreme, but he has the right idea. You have to pitch inside when they crowd you, and you will be amazed how they will move their head out of the way every time.
then you weren't cheated by the umpires when they didn't give the batter first base. The umpires just made the right call. You're right though that most umpires at the college and pro level very rarely call it. And Storm and you are both right that untimately, you have to pitch inside if a team is crowding the plate. I don't ever advocate throwing at someone's head though. If you hit him intentionally, you need to hit him in the midsection. I don't have a problem with throwing hard to the high inside part of the strike zone though.
I say chunk a fasball right at their ribs. Hit a few like that and then see if they are so willing to stand in there.
pitcher in the first game of the series. Instruct him to throw nothing but (slightly) inside heaters from the chest up to the neck. If you go 3-0 to a batter, the next pitch better find flesh. If the pitcher gets tossed, send in the next one, and repeat until they back off the plate. Set the tone early. Lose the first game if you have to, but don't let the other team get away with that, ahem, strategy.
If you get hit enough, you'll back off the plate or you'll spend time on the injured list.
If the umps don't like it, respond quietly and gently... "Mr. Umpire, the batters are hanging over the plate. It's very difficult not to hit them when they are in that position."
If you get hit enough, you'll back off the plate or you'll spend time on the injured list.
If the umps don't like it, respond quietly and gently... "Mr. Umpire, the batters are hanging over the plate. It's very difficult not to hit them when they are in that position."
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