Lamont's job just got a lot harder

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Would you use a ruler with irregular and unreliable markings that gave no accurate measurement?
All I can tell you is that if there is a BETTER way to measure performance, I would really, really like to know what it is because I'd go by it. Seriously.
 

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Perfect predictions on our final record or not, everyone predicted we would struggle this year. We struggled this year. Everyone knew we would struggle this year including the fans. And now, everyone is complaining that we.....you guessed it.....struggled. Why?

If you are disappointed, what exactly did you expect, or want at this point and time? Some of the same people complaining expected and knew we would be right where we are. Then, why are you complaining?
 

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Well folks. It is what it is and it won't take long to determine the outcome, imo. And I don't see how anybody can disagree. If we don't hit the jackpot in recruiting, this goose is cooked. Tough that it has come down to this but that's the timeline O see. But for now, I'm gonna support the coach and the program and hope he comes through and gets the program on an upward trajectory.
 
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Lamont's going to have to go overseas to get some players.
He needs to do something dramatic bc I get the feeling many feel he did not get the most out of GG. Despite the fact that the team appeared to slowly improve during the season, his ability to develop is questioned and will certainly be used again him on the recruiting trail.
 

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One other thing I would add is that even though Paris was not among my top choices, we are STUCK with him. Look at Tanner's previous hires: Chad Holbrook and Will Muschamp: they each got 5 seasons to get the job done. So my choices are 1. be miserable about the hire or 2. try to find the positives. I choose the later. Life is too short to be miserable.
Holbrook was a no-brainer hire...we didn't have a CWS NC until he arrived and several other programs were after him. Tanner would have been hung in effigy if he allowed him to go. The Muschamp hire was pretty much who was left after 3 top candidates pulled their names out of the hat. From my understanding, the basketball hire was the same. Doubt Pitino was approached, but I know one from SC was....and didn't want to leave his program. Frankly, we are in no way an attractive program in basketball right now....despite the facilities and the money. Martin had a fluke year (mainly due to UNC not wanting Thornwell) and failed to do anything with it.....we are looked at as a one hit wonder, a non-power SEC team in the middle of ACC country who struggles to recruit its instate players and that is all. You have to be honest about what we can reasonably get as any coach wants to succeed and wants to go to a place to do it.
 
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Paris will have to come up with a script to turn a bunch of portal players into a "team".
Maybe he can sell it as such on the "portal recruiting trail". Come and join the "Cocky Gang"! :LOL: "We Ride Again Together"
The group he inherited had a few good moments of teamwork but never quite solidified for the long haul. Need something circle the wagons around.
 

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Holbrook was a no-brainer hire...we didn't have a CWS NC until he arrived and several other programs were after him. Tanner would have been hung in effigy if he allowed him to go. The Muschamp hire was pretty much who was left after 3 top candidates pulled their names out of the hat. From my understanding, the basketball hire was the same. Doubt Pitino was approached, but I know one from SC was....and didn't want to leave his program. Frankly, we are in no way an attractive program in basketball right now....despite the facilities and the money. Martin had a fluke year (mainly due to UNC not wanting Thornwell) and failed to do anything with it.....we are looked at as a one hit wonder, a non-power SEC team in the middle of ACC country who struggles to recruit its instate players and that is all. You have to be honest about what we can reasonably get as any coach wants to succeed and wants to go to a place to do it.
I totally agree.

You are so right that we have to be realistic about who our basketball program can attract to coach.. Some of our fans look at Paris' overall record and are ready to criticize every chance they get. But if they looked closer at his record at UT-C, they would see that his UT-C team's record improved every year, in conference and out-of conference, he was there. And in his first year here, most picked us to be last in the SEC. We finished 2 spots higher than predicted. And he did that after having to replace 70% of the previous year's team, who left due to graduation or transfer (3 of them transferred to UMASS with Martin). By the time Paris came on the job, the better players had already picked other schools. So, Paris basically had only lightly-regarded (to put it nicely) players to get just to have enough players to scrimmage. In light of all that, I think he did a good job in his first year. And that comes from me, one who was not necessarily happy with the hire. But, the obvious cannot be ignored: Paris did a good job in light of the hand he was dealt. And I look at his 2 commitments thus far and I see one player who is rated a 4 star by a couple of services and I see another, a shooting guard, who is rated 45th, 53rd and 64th nationally by 3 services. So, it looks like he is bringing in quality recruits. I'm encouraged with what I've seen thus far (and, again, that comes from someone who was not initially happy with the hire). You know, we might have hired a "diamond in the rough". The critics just need to be patient and look closer at his record at UT-C. Unfortunately, we live in a microwave environment where people want results right away no matter what (such as having to replace 70% of the players after coming in late). Microwaves may work in the kitchen. But, that's about it.
 
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So all the discussion about this that and the other and how Coach Paris is going to put together a team due to those leaving ( in the case of 1 we will be much better off without him) but seem to forget that putting a basketball team together is much unlike what Beamer is doing with football , the numbers game is in favor of Paris - you get 4-6 good players and you can move a program forward much quicker than many think. I wouldn't be all that much concerned about the number leaving via the portal as it's taking place all across the country daily.

As an example from today ---- Caleb Love becomes the sixth North Carolina player to announce he’ll enter the transfer portal.

That's North Carolina , a little different than South Carolina at this time.