Listening to OSU Post game commentators - not sure where they are coming from

[blion72]

ESPNU - Bobby Carpenter and that group said it was a "weird" game. The 13 pts bothered him, but then he said Penn State got a "garbage" time TD, and if you take that away the spread of 20 "felt what you would expect". You could also say the the JT interception was somewhat of a fluke and also in "garbage time".

TFrank also mentioned the last TD was in garbage time.

The guys from Harrisburg writers also mentioned garbage time.

Actually, the BTN guys commented that this game was dead even and it was 4 PSU TO's. that were the difference. I took offense to the fact that it was "garbage time" in a blowout. 14 pts in the 4th qtr were direct result of TO's. Not taking anything away from tOSU as they are a good team, but we could have won that game straight up. tOSU had 0 TO's which is unusual.

The yardage was dead even BEFORE the TO's.

 

[PSUwolf]

Not sure about all of the stat comparisons. I really don't care. With me, it all comes down to crunch time (4th quarter) and 24 points in around 6 to 7 minutes - in the 4th quarter when it counts - says it all.

 

[CvilleElksCoach]

ESPNU - Bobby Carpenter and that group said it was a "weird" game. The 13 pts bothered him, but then he said Penn State got a "garbage" time TD, and if you take that away the spread of 20 "felt what you would expect". You could also say the the JT interception was somewhat of a fluke and also in "garbage time".

TFrank also mentioned the last TD was in garbage time.

The guys from Harrisburg writers also mentioned garbage time.

Actually, the BTN guys commented that this game was dead even and it was 4 PSU TO's. that were the difference. I took offense to the fact that it was "garbage time" in a blowout. 14 pts in the 4th qtr were direct result of TO's. Not taking anything away from tOSU as they are a good team, but we could have won that game straight up. tOSU had 0 TO's which is unusual.

The yardage was dead even BEFORE the TO's.

If I were you I wouldn’t listen to Barbie Carpenter. He is a dope.

 

[J.E.B]

It was 4 TO’s vs. 0. Game over. They led to what 21 pts? Game was pretty even before the last two in 4Q. Bucks are always human at the Beav. Always.

 

[marshall23]

Late in the third Quarter I took a peak at "Eleven Warriors" just for ***** and giggles. Predictably, if you took Day's name and substituted Franklin, the posts would be routine here.
Clifford was being touted as a QB "playing his heart out."
The next day they had a survey asking how many thought at one point OSU was going to lose. When I looked at it the result was somewhere around 83%.

 

[ODShowtime]

I was behind on the DVR and got a bunch of texts around the time I thought the game would be wrapping up. As the game went on, because of how it was going and all the texts (I don't look at the phone, only hear it), I truly thought we were going to beat them.

Luckily, after the bitter disappointment of reality, I escaped said reality by passing out until about 5AM Sunday. I'm not sure how I accomplished that but it was awesome.

 

[JWB389]

ESPNU - Bobby Carpenter and that group said it was a "weird" game. The 13 pts bothered him, but then he said Penn State got a "garbage" time TD, and if you take that away the spread of 20 "felt what you would expect". You could also say the the JT interception was somewhat of a fluke and also in "garbage time".

TFrank also mentioned the last TD was in garbage time.

The guys from Harrisburg writers also mentioned garbage time.

Actually, the BTN guys commented that this game was dead even and it was 4 PSU TO's. that were the difference. I took offense to the fact that it was "garbage time" in a blowout. 14 pts in the 4th qtr were direct result of TO's. Not taking anything away from tOSU as they are a good team, but we could have won that game straight up. tOSU had 0 TO's which is unusual.

The yardage was dead even BEFORE the TO's.

I listen to Carpenter every day, but cannot listen to the entire show. He is a total OSU homer. I didn't hear the part you describe, but I'm not surprised. Everything he talks about relates seomehow back to OSU. Hartsock is more like a Herbstreit. Never insult PSU too much, because they may need us to look good in the future.

 

[NOVABuck45]

Late in the third Quarter I took a peak at "Eleven Warriors" just for ***** and giggles. Predictably, if you took Day's name and substituted Franklin, the posts would be routine here.
Clifford was being touted as a QB "playing his heart out."
The next day they had a survey asking how many thought at one point OSU was going to lose. When I looked at it the result was somewhere around 83%.

Yes. Myself included.

Game threads are pure toxicity. Some fans expect us to win each quarter by 14-21 points, and any deviation from that warrants mass firing. I personally had us winning the game by 11, pulling away late. I knew it would be a dog fight. Those predicting a 49-12 type of game don't seem to understand that the other team gets a vote. And that "other team" in this case wasn't Rutgers.

Fan expectations are something else.

 

[LB99]

Late in the third Quarter I took a peak at "Eleven Warriors" just for ***** and giggles. Predictably, if you took Day's name and substituted Franklin, the posts would be routine here.
Clifford was being touted as a QB "playing his heart out."
The next day they had a survey asking how many thought at one point OSU was going to lose. When I looked at it the result was somewhere around 83%.

Some of their fans were calling in to XM on Sunday morning complaining about Day and the playcalling. First world problems, I guess?

 

[Mrdibbs]

Fans will be fans. I guess from the O$U fan(atic) perspective, they were not happy that it took them 3+ quarters to break their opponent. How could the mighty Buckeyes not be up 4 or 5 touchdowns?

I also read/hear similar sentiment when PSU struggles against "inferior" opposition. This is not an O$U only issue.

There is a team on the other side that wants to win, too.

Like the old guy used to say, "If we ........ , we're gonna get licked".

 

[marshall23]

Some of their fans were calling in to XM on Sunday morning complaining about Day and the playcalling. First world problems, I guess?

Just evidence that fans everywhere and of every team are never satisfied. It's a disease.

 

[marshall23]

Yes. Myself included.

Game threads are pure toxicity. Some fans expect us to win each quarter by 14-21 points, and any deviation from that warrants mass firing. I personally had us winning the game by 11, pulling away late. I knew it would be a dog fight. Those predicting a 49-12 type of game don't seem to understand that the other team gets a vote. And that "other team" in this case wasn't Rutgers.

Fan expectations are something else.

I was pleased that PSU came to play. I don't know what happened at U of M, but there was some big time football played for about 52-53 minutes on Saturday. PSU had no answer for #44 who took over the game. Hats off to Ohio State for showing up at crunch time. The cretins here blame the coach "for the collapse." While conveniently not addressing that the same coaches must have done a pretty damn good job putting PSU in the position to play OSU on even terms for 52 minutes.
It isn't like anything came easy to PSU early either. They had to overcome adversity early to take a lead.
I guess if you aren't bitching and complaining you aren' t a real fan.

 

[Classof09]

I was pleased that PSU came to play. I don't know what happened at U of M, but there was some big time football played for about 52-53 minutes on Saturday. PSU had no answer for #44 who took over the game. Hats off to Ohio State for showing up at crunch time. The cretins here blame the coach "for the collapse." While conveniently not addressing that the same coaches must have done a pretty damn good job putting PSU in the position to play OSU on even terms for 52 minutes.
It isn't like anything came easy to PSU early either. They had to overcome adversity early to take a lead.
I guess if you aren't bitching and complaining you aren' t a real fan.

Please enlighten and educate us all on what being a ‘fan’ is since you clearly know everything about everything and make sure to post about it constantly.

Amazed you come out of your all knowing world to educate all us ignorant ‘fans’.

 

[marshall23]

Please enlighten and educate us all on what being a ‘fan’ is since you clearly know everything about everything and make sure to post about it constantly.

Amazed you come out of your all knowing world to educate all us ignorant ‘fans’.

You clowns are beyond help....I come here for the daily belly laughs. The comics aren't available in the Sunday Papers anymore.

 

[Classof09]

You clowns are beyond help....I come here for the daily belly laughs. The comics aren't available in the Sunday Papers anymore.

Make fun of us for being upset or getting enjoyment from a college football team. But you’re the guy who just acknowledged you get enjoyment from people talking about college football. On the sliding scale of pathetic, you might be the bottom.

 

[ApexLion]

Please enlighten and educate us all on what being a ‘fan’ is since you clearly know everything about everything and make sure to post about it constantly.

Amazed you come out of your all knowing world to educate all us ignorant ‘fans’.

Did you hear the word cretin?

 

[bohucon]

If I were you I wouldn’t listen to Barbie Carpenter. He is a dope.

He's also an OSU alum...

 

[Classof09]

Did you hear the word cretin?

He’s a joke. Just like Moogy. Nothing better in their lives that to come on here and spout their ‘holier than thou, smarter than everyone’ opinions in every single thread and post.

 

[bohucon]

ESPNU - Bobby Carpenter and that group said it was a "weird" game. The 13 pts bothered him, but then he said Penn State got a "garbage" time TD, and if you take that away the spread of 20 "felt what you would expect". You could also say the the JT interception was somewhat of a fluke and also in "garbage time".

TFrank also mentioned the last TD was in garbage time.

The guys from Harrisburg writers also mentioned garbage time.

Actually, the BTN guys commented that this game was dead even and it was 4 PSU TO's. that were the difference. I took offense to the fact that it was "garbage time" in a blowout. 14 pts in the 4th qtr were direct result of TO's. Not taking anything away from tOSU as they are a good team, but we could have won that game straight up. tOSU had 0 TO's which is unusual.

The yardage was dead even BEFORE the TO's.

Reality is in thew eye of the beholder...I looked at the last drive as the team didn't quit... they fought to the end. "garbage time" is for those who fail to recognize the players passion, on both sides, and how they want to play.

 

[Nits74]

I was pleased that PSU came to play. I don't know what happened at U of M, but there was some big time football played for about 52-53 minutes on Saturday. PSU had no answer for #44 who took over the game. Hats off to Ohio State for showing up at crunch time. The cretins here blame the coach "for the collapse." While conveniently not addressing that the same coaches must have done a pretty damn good job putting PSU in the position to play OSU on even terms for 52 minutes.
It isn't like anything came easy to PSU early either. They had to overcome adversity early to take a lead.
I guess if you aren't bitching and complaining you aren' t a real fan.

Shouldn't that be a given every week? And if not, whose fault is that? So, Penn State seems to becoming quite satisfied with moral victories. Personally, I'm getting a little tired of it.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

If I were you I wouldn’t listen to Barbie Carpenter. He is a dope.

Barbie had a great rack and a tight butt!!

 

[marshall23]

Make fun of us for being upset or getting enjoyment from a college football team. But you’re the guy who just acknowledged you get enjoyment from people talking about college football. On the sliding scale of pathetic, you might be the bottom.

If watching football on TV upsets you......perhaps you should stop watching. LOL

 

[marshall23]

He’s a joke. Just like Moogy. Nothing better in their lives that to come on here and spout their ‘holier than thou, smarter than everyone’ opinions in every single thread and post.

Being smarter than you is nothing to brag about.

 

[marshall23]

Shouldn't that be a given every week? And if not, whose fault is that? So, Penn State seems to becoming quite satisfied with moral victories. Personally, I'm getting a little tired of it.

Again, if it doesn't please you....don't do it. Unless you man up and donate 63 million.
Otherwise all you contribute are your tears.
I'll be quite satisfied with 9-3 or 10-2. Most "experts" put this team at 8 wins.
Perhaps the problem isn't fans who are satisfied with 8,9,10 wins, it could be that the problem is those who are not.

Its called competitive athletics. Ever tried it? In this case 2 teams engage each week. Both have scholarship athletes and experienced coaching staffs. One team wins. The other tries to do better next week. Everyone wants to win. Everyone can't win all the time. I know that's difficult for some who consider themselves "elite" fans to stomach. It's a tough world out there.

 

[Classof09]

Being smarter than you is nothing to brag about.

Message board tough guy! Add that to your clearly very impressive resume.

 

[marshall23]

Message board tough guy! Add that to your clearly very impressive resume.

I like to think of my self as "witty."

 

[Classof09]

I like to think of my self as "witty."

Nobody else does

 

[marshall23]

Nobody else does

So you speak for the entire "fan" base? Of course you do. Oh well, I'm crushed.

 

[Classof09]

So you speak for the entire "fan" base? Of course you do. Oh well, I'm crushed.

Yeah we voted

 

[marshall23]

Yeah we voted

Stop the steal

 

[NOVABuck45]

I was pleased that PSU came to play. I don't know what happened at U of M, but there was some big time football played for about 52-53 minutes on Saturday. PSU had no answer for #44 who took over the game. Hats off to Ohio State for showing up at crunch time. The cretins here blame the coach "for the collapse." While conveniently not addressing that the same coaches must have done a pretty damn good job putting PSU in the position to play OSU on even terms for 52 minutes.
It isn't like anything came easy to PSU early either. They had to overcome adversity early to take a lead.
I guess if you aren't bitching and complaining you aren' t a real fan.

From a Buckeye perspective, I personally have doubts that James Franklin is the guy to take PSU to the next level, but I'm also not sure what more he could/should have done on Saturday.

Until last year, we've been destroying Michigan in our matchups. But Franklin always has PSU better prepared to test us than Harbaugh does. Yes, Franklin has had his share of questionable calls and games, but I can't think of many WTF moments during Saturday's game. I thought it was a fairly good game plan throughout. Ultimately, our stars stepped up when it mattered late. That happens in games.

Do I think PSU fans have a legit gripe with Franklin? Yes. But not sure what specific criticism of Franklin is warranted for Saturday's game, to be honest.

(we're always hardest on our own, but I personally thought Ryan Day had more questionable decisions on Saturday than Franklin did. If I had to pick, I'd say PSU looked better prepared for that game -- it's just that our big stars made big plays when it mattered)

 

[LaJollaCreek]

From a Buckeye perspective, I personally have doubts that James Franklin is the guy to take PSU to the next level, but I'm also not sure what more he could/should have done on Saturday.

Until last year, we've been destroying Michigan in our matchups. But Franklin always has PSU better prepared to test us than Harbaugh does. Yes, Franklin has had his share of questionable calls and games, but I can't think of many WTF moments during Saturday's game. I thought it was a fairly good game plan throughout. Ultimately, our stars stepped up when it mattered late. That happens in games.

Do I think PSU fans have a legit gripe with Franklin? Yes. But not sure what specific criticism of Franklin is warranted for Saturday's game, to be honest.

(we're always hardest on our own, but I personally thought Ryan Day had more questionable decisions on Saturday than Franklin did. If I had to pick, I'd say PSU looked better prepared for that game -- it's just that our big stars made big plays when it mattered)

Many PSU fans think they are a top 5 team when they aren't. They think their expectations will win or lose a game as well. OSU and 2-3 other schools continute to rack up top 5 classes and can overcome slow starts. They can overcome injuries better with better depth. PSU has quite a few fans in denial as to where the school is currently and has been. They think nobody else ever comes out slow and every team is 100% up every week which is just nonsense.

Franklin may not be the guy to take them to the next level, but he had a deeper hole than most to dig out of initially. Last years class was very talented for PSU and we are seeing a ton of frosh making an impact and have some more that will down the road. It will be interesting to see how he follows up that class and has a QB that can make every throw on the field next year (hopefully more this year too). This looked to be a 8-9 win before the season and that seems like how it may end up. Yet some are acting as if this PSU team was slated to win the B1G this year.

The UM OSU match up should be interesting this year. Can you slow the run and can they get to Stroud?

 

[NOVABuck45]

Many PSU fans think they are a top 5 team when they aren't. They think their expectations will win or lose a game as well. OSU and 2-3 other schools continute to rack up top 5 classes and can overcome slow starts. They can overcome injuries better with better depth. PSU has quite a few fans in denial as to where the school is currently and has been. They think nobody else ever comes out slow and every team is 100% up every week which is just nonsense.

Franklin may not be the guy to take them to the next level, but he had a deeper hole than most to dig out of initially. Last years class was very talented for PSU and we are seeing a ton of frosh making an impact and have some more that will down the road. It will be interesting to see how he follows up that class and has a QB that can make every throw on the field next year (hopefully more this year too). This looked to be a 8-9 win before the season and that seems like how it may end up. Yet some are acting as if this PSU team was slated to win the B1G this year.

The UM OSU match up should be interesting this year. Can you slow the run and can they get to Stroud?

Yeah, I sorta had PSU pegged as an 8/9 win team this year, and it looks like you'll go 10-2. That seems like a success. And there's a lot of young talent there that will only improve. Allar with the Singleton/Allen RB tandem will be really good, and you have some good young pieces on defense. I see no reason why you won't continue to be a 10 win team into the future. It's hard to project out too far, but 2024 could be a really big year for you all if kids stick around (all those freshmen being juniors).

Franklin needs to win some big games. That'll help perception and recruiting big time. But even without it, the program seems to be in a good place.

As for us.....Michigan will be tough. Very physical, and I'm still not a believer that our defense has been completely fixed. Much better than last year, but the Michigan ground game will test us. Of course, we'll test Michigan in plenty of ways, too. Hoping for a 2018 repeat -- Michigan comes in very physical and confident, and we obliterate them with our passing attack. In reality, it should be a close game.

 

[ApexLion]

Again, if it doesn't please you....don't do it. Unless you man up and donate 63 million.
Otherwise all you contribute are your tears.
I'll be quite satisfied with 9-3 or 10-2. Most "experts" put this team at 8 wins.
Perhaps the problem isn't fans who are satisfied with 8,9,10 wins, it could be that the problem is those who are not.

Its called competitive athletics. Ever tried it? In this case 2 teams engage each week. Both have scholarship athletes and experienced coaching staffs. One team wins. The other tries to do better next week. Everyone wants to win. Everyone can't win all the time. I know that's difficult for some who consider themselves "elite" fans to stomach. It's a tough world out there.

snap

 

[MontereyLion]

Clifford did lose the game, #44 won it. Ohio State had 3 great players. We had one.