Living your teenage years without cell phones and the internet.....

Prestonyte

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What a blessing that all the dumba$$ things we did are not on video and living in perpetuity on the internet. There is no place to hide - someone is always there to record it. Can't believe some of the things people do knowing this is the case.
 

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What a blessing that all the dumba$$ things we did are not on video and living in perpetuity on the internet. There is no place to hide - someone is always there to record it. Can't believe some of the things people do knowing this is the case.
I'll second that.
 
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ToddFlanders

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People now have the accumulated knowledge of human history on a computer in their pocket and we're no smarter (probably dumber actually).

Seems it's a case of too much of a good thing. People will figure it out though. The ones having the most trouble with it are those that grew up before the internet age really kicked into high gear. It's hard to gracefully go from being spoon-fed (which everyone was as there were only so many options for information, and only so much time to navigate them), to an all-you-can-eat buffet.
 

18IsTheMan

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Seems it's a case of too much of a good thing. People will figure it out though. The ones having the most trouble with it are those that grew up before the internet age really kicked into high gear. It's hard to gracefully go from being spoon-fed (which everyone was as there were only so many options for information, and only so much time to navigate them), to an all-you-can-eat buffet.

I don't know. There's a pretty large body of data out there that supports the notion that the total ease with which information is accessed these days has detrimental effects on overall scholarship. Put it this way, I can recall information from a project I did on Norway in 6th grade but can't recall information I looked up on Google last week. You don't even have to type anymore. Just whip out your phone and say "Hey Siri, what's ________?" "She" gives you the answer and you move on and probably forget it. When you have to dig through a book to find a piece of information, it sticks with you longer. So says the data.

Our brains are designed to make meaningful connections in order for information to be retained. Quick Google searches simply don't and can't accomplish that.

On top of that, you don't have to look over ALL the information any longer. Whereas you used to have to comb through material to find what you were looking for, in the process ingesting a lot of extra information, now you can more or less zero in on exactly the information you want with a couple quick searches.

During my grad school work (which was WITH internet), I relied heavily on Pubmed, which is the journal database for the NIH. Any scholarly article in the sciences is here. I could use search terms and narrow down millions of articles from decades upon decades of publications to maybe a few hundred. And I could further narrow those down. How'd my dissertation advisor do it? Just had to sit down with a stack of journals and read them all.

There are some people who will take advantage of the current technology but still do the rigorous work of sifting through mountains of information, but, for most, they will take the path of least resistance offered by internet search engines to get their information with the least amount of effort.
 

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I don't know. There's a pretty large body of data out there that supports the notion that the total ease with which information is accessed these days has detrimental effects on overall scholarship. Put it this way, I can recall information from a project I did on Norway in 6th grade but can't recall information I looked up on Google last week. You don't even have to type anymore. Just whip out your phone and say "Hey Siri, what's ________?" "She" gives you the answer and you move on and probably forget it. When you have to dig through a book to find a piece of information, it sticks with you longer. So says the data.

Our brains are designed to make meaningful connections in order for information to be retained. Quick Google searches simply don't and can't accomplish that.

On top of that, you don't have to look over ALL the information any longer. Whereas you used to have to comb through material to find what you were looking for, in the process ingesting a lot of extra information, now you can more or less zero in on exactly the information you want with a couple quick searches.

During my grad school work (which was WITH internet), I relied heavily on Pubmed, which is the journal database for the NIH. Any scholarly article in the sciences is here. I could use search terms and narrow down millions of articles from decades upon decades of publications to maybe a few hundred. And I could further narrow those down. How'd my dissertation advisor do it? Just had to sit down with a stack of journals and read them all.

There are some people who will take advantage of the current technology but still do the rigorous work of sifting through mountains of information, but, for most, they will take the path of least resistance offered by internet search engines to get their information with the least amount of effort.

Well of course any information is only as good as how you use it.

Throughout history we've gotten a lot better at using the information around us in order to achieve more as a species. It's not always instantaneous, because as ingenious as the human race is, change has never been easy for us as a whole. But we'll figure it out - the younger generations are already showing a lot of promise because they tend to not be caught up in the proclivities of the older generations that tend to hold them back. (Proclivities that again are directly tied to having only limited options for information for so long.)
 

CockofEarle

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What a blessing that all the dumba$$ things we did are not on video and living in perpetuity on the internet. There is no place to hide - someone is always there to record it. Can't believe some of the things people do knowing this is the case.
Translated: Dinner is served @ 5:30. If yer not home u can eat it cold!
 

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I am very careful of what I post online. I scrubbed my FB profile some years back of anything political and of everything with me holding an alcoholic beverage. A photo of me holding cosmo got me passed over for a promotion. It was a minor set back. But still…….

Growing up in the 80s I think that I had a much cooler childhood experience then kids have today & alotnof it has to do with technology. Riding bikes, water gun fights, building forts in the woods and then as I got a little older going the mall and arcades…….
Nowadays parents pump their kids full of adderall, give them a tablet and let them sit inside in isolation so they don’t have to raise them. When my brothers and I wanted to fight, my mom signed us up for martial arts.

We, namely the millennial parents, are creating generations of weirdos with no social skills.
 
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CockofEarle

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I am very careful of what I post online. I scrubbed my FB profile some years back of anything political and of everything with me holding an alcoholic beverage. A photo of me holding cosmo got me passed over for a promotion. It was a minor set back. But still…….

Growing up in the 80s I think that I had a much cooler childhood experience then kids have today & alotnof it has to do with technology. Riding bikes, water gun fights, building forts in the woods and then as I got a little older going the mall and arcades…….
Nowadays parents pump their kids full of adderall, give them a tablet and let them sit inside in isolation so they don’t have to raise them. When my brothers and I wanted to fight, my mom signed us up for martial arts.

We, namely the millennial parents, are creating generations of weirdos with no social skills.
Fight with yer brothers?…….why my older one would hold me down and tap me on the head with a Louisville Slugger.
Why he did this when mother was out of the house still confuses me……I contend it caused a problem with sliders.
 

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What a blessing that all the dumba$$ things we did are not on video and living in perpetuity on the internet. There is no place to hide - someone is always there to record it. Can't believe some of the things people do knowing this is the case.
Yep. Back in the 80s you could do a lot of crazy, stupid stuff without worrying about it being recorded and shared with half the world. Kids really need to understand once something embarrassing is shared on the internet, it's there for life (unless you have really powerful parents or relatives who can make sure it's disappeared). It's scary to think how many people I know would almost certainly have not had successful careers if their employers were able to find out half the chit they got away with in college via a Google search.
 
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will110

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I am very careful of what I post online. I scrubbed my FB profile some years back of anything political and of everything with me holding an alcoholic beverage. A photo of me holding cosmo got me passed over for a promotion. It was a minor set back. But still…….

Growing up in the 80s I think that I had a much cooler childhood experience then kids have today & alotnof it has to do with technology. Riding bikes, water gun fights, building forts in the woods and then as I got a little older going the mall and arcades…….
Nowadays parents pump their kids full of adderall, give them a tablet and let them sit inside in isolation so they don’t have to raise them. When my brothers and I wanted to fight, my mom signed us up for martial arts.

We, namely the millennial parents, are creating generations of weirdos with no social skills.
Speaking of building forts in the woods...
 

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Well of course any information is only as good as how you use it.

Throughout history we've gotten a lot better at using the information around us in order to achieve more as a species. It's not always instantaneous, because as ingenious as the human race is, change has never been easy for us as a whole. But we'll figure it out - the younger generations are already showing a lot of promise because they tend to not be caught up in the proclivities of the older generations that tend to hold them back. (Proclivities that again are directly tied to having only limited options for information for so long.)

What you talking bout Willis?
 

Prestonyte

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Well of course any information is only as good as how you use it.

Throughout history we've gotten a lot better at using the information around us in order to achieve more as a species. It's not always instantaneous, because as ingenious as the human race is, change has never been easy for us as a whole. But we'll figure it out - the younger generations are already showing a lot of promise because they tend to not be caught up in the proclivities of the older generations that tend to hold them back. (Proclivities that again are directly tied to having only limited options for information for so long.)
Like searching the bowels of McKissick for information and not finding your way out til days later.
 

Gamecock Jacque

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Yep. Back in the 80s you could do a lot of crazy, stupid stuff without worrying about it being recorded and shared with half the world. Kids really need to understand once something embarrassing is shared on the internet, it's there for life (unless you have really powerful parents or relatives who can make sure it's disappeared). It's scary to think how many people I know would almost certainly have not had successful careers if their employers were able to find out half the chit they got away with in college via a Google search.
In my case a sealed verdict was a life saver. Technically never convicted of anything.
 

Harvard Gamecock

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I don't know. There's a pretty large body of data out there that supports the notion that the total ease with which information is accessed these days has detrimental effects on overall scholarship. Put it this way, I can recall information from a project I did on Norway in 6th grade but can't recall information I looked up on Google last week. You don't even have to type anymore. Just whip out your phone and say "Hey Siri, what's ________?" "She" gives you the answer and you move on and probably forget it. When you have to dig through a book to find a piece of information, it sticks with you longer. So says the data.

Our brains are designed to make meaningful connections in order for information to be retained. Quick Google searches simply don't and can't accomplish that.

On top of that, you don't have to look over ALL the information any longer. Whereas you used to have to comb through material to find what you were looking for, in the process ingesting a lot of extra information, now you can more or less zero in on exactly the information you want with a couple quick searches.

During my grad school work (which was WITH internet), I relied heavily on Pubmed, which is the journal database for the NIH. Any scholarly article in the sciences is here. I could use search terms and narrow down millions of articles from decades upon decades of publications to maybe a few hundred. And I could further narrow those down. How'd my dissertation advisor do it? Just had to sit down with a stack of journals and read them all.

There are some people who will take advantage of the current technology but still do the rigorous work of sifting through mountains of information, but, for most, they will take the path of least resistance offered by internet search engines to get their information with the least amount of effort.
I did not have the internet during my college days. It was long hours and nights at the Harvard Library, some nights and I'm including Friday the place was downright crowded.
 
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