Visiting this weekend. Guess he wasn’t the one demanding the starting job.
Would be a huge pickup for the RB position.
Would be a huge pickup for the RB position.
Logan Diggs in Columbia
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This is a chance to actually upgrade the RB position from last year. Lloyd ran for 801 yards in 2 seasons. Diggs ran for 800 last season. If we can land him, the Lloyd transfer will have been a blessing in disguise.
In Lloyd's defense, he would've brien 1000 if he stayed healthy. At the same time, a couple RBs a little wise staying healthy would be an upgrade in production because you need to play to impact the game.
Well, yeah, staying healthy was Lloyd's problem for the most part. So, yeah, if Diggs can simply stay healthy, that's an improvement right there.
Honestly, if Joyner, Anderson, Juju and the freshman could stay healthy, they'd be better than our options against Tennessee last year or a very limited and hurting Lloyd from the Clemson game.
That's true. Really amazing what we were able to do to them with absolutely no running game. It was guerilla warfare. UT had no clue what they were walking into...hell, I didn't either!
But we can't rely on that. Trying to remain optimistic, but I don't see how we improve on 8-4 with our current RB room. Just too hard to do with 8 SEC games plus Clemson.
Unpopular opinion, Lloyd was very overrated. His only 2 respectable games at USC were vs UK and Texas A&M. Yes, may have been different if healthy, but IMO he never came close to his hype. He moved laterally wayyyy too much, to the point that he had a crucial fumble against Arky and I recall a few other times he didn't get first downs due to trying to rather than lowering the pads.
I'm not happy he's gone, but just don't see if as such a huge loss, other than the fact that we didn't have someone ready to take on RB1 role.
While true, I feel like he was getting it together last year before he got hurt. The coaching staff crapped the bed with the stupid Bell RB experiment. I feel like he was having a good game against Mizzu before he got hurt too. It would've been good to see how he would have fared against UF, one of the worst run Ds in the country. Oh well. Like you said, not a huge production loss. Either way, if we land Diggs it's an upgrade.
yeah, there's definitely more to the story, but it was rare for me to feel confident with him getting the ball on a 3rd and 3 that we would move the chains.
I think of it like this: we had a TE that couldn't block running in a gap blocking scheme because he couldn't read his hole in a zone scheme and were still able to pick up yards against a top 7 rush defense just because the deep pass opened it up. Now reincorporate what we were able to do with Lloyd early last season in the zone and what we could do with duo down late in 2021 and not factor a potentially more athletic OL, more confident Rattler and not having the continuity troubles that plagued us by our own fault last season and there is no reason we shouldn't be a top 25 offense. Since EDGE also underproduced last year, we might not have the drop of we expect to have there, we are more athletic and strong at LB, heavier at DT and deeper almost everywhere on defense. If we just become mediocre at run defense and regress a little from end of last season in offense, we are a better team, which would make those toss-ups locks and we might even pull another top 15 upset. I think experience at safety and trust of the defensive front may even bring the blitzes we saw in 2021 back into the defense. If RB and EDGE just absolutely fall flat, then we're in trouble, but honestly it looks like we may trade under- performing talent with reliable depth at both places with the way Joyner transitioned at RB. And at EDGE with the light DT type guys performing well there in spring, and the reviews of Dawkins, Dez, Westmoreland and Thomas.
Diggs visited Ole Miss just prior to visiting us. He's been quiet about his visits although his mom posted something about his visit in
Columbia. She didn't divulge anything, but the post seemed positive.
I see a lot of folks (fans) speculating about a visit to LSU. Of course, that's his home state and they consider it a recruiting miss prior to Kelly taking over. But, they have a strong RB situation already. He's not needed there nearly as much as he's needed here.
That's my 2 cents.
Columbia. She didn't divulge anything, but the post seemed positive.
I see a lot of folks (fans) speculating about a visit to LSU. Of course, that's his home state and they consider it a recruiting miss prior to Kelly taking over. But, they have a strong RB situation already. He's not needed there nearly as much as he's needed here.
That's my 2 cents.
He could've made the difference against Mizzou, given he was the only thing we had going.
Yeah, you gotta figure a guy with 1-2 years left isn't going to jump somewhere there's a risk of not playing. Maybe he loves Kelly. Maybe he loves LA. But probably not enough to risk an NFL career. LSU has 7 scholarship RBs. That's why I think OM isn't much of a risk either. They have a STUD freshman already there. That Judkins kid is the real deal, and I heard his visit there didn't go so well. He's not jumping from a starting gig to a gig where it's not clear that he's going to be the starter. That would be an extremely risky thing for him to do.
I mean, if it's USC, LSU, or OM, I'm feeling pretty good.
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I hear you and believe you are correct on Diggs not having as much opportunity at LSU. The trouble is, Kelly is going to make Diggs think he has more talent than any other RB on the roster and all he has to do is perform to his capabilities. Coaches can be real sneaky about this and most good players are convinced they are the best (up to a point). Don't rule out Lane Kiffin. He's probably the sneakiest one of the bunch. He'll make Diggs believe he can't win without him.
When I first posted he was in the portal and we should go for it, I was was told he was a lock for LSU/Kelly and his home state.
Agree, love all those things or not, does not make sense to transfer to a team with a loaded backfield when Carolina is needy.
That was probably me, and it seemed to be the most obvious conclusion at the time. It's his home state. The team is coached by the coach who recruited him to ND. Their leading rusher last year was their QB. We didn't even offer him out of high school.
He has 2 CBs on 247, both for LSU (one from a ND insider and one LSU). Hopefully they are wrong. He can certainly have the greatest impact here.
Lol whaaa?!?
In my view Bell was by FAR the superior RB on the team, regardless of anyone else's 'health' status.
Huge loss to FSU in my eyes; losing Lloyd was no biggie.
You serious, Clark?? That was a massive failure. Vision was bad, technique was bad, no wiggle, no burst. If we were going to tinker with anyone back there it should have been DK from the beginning. Production wise, neither was a big loss at all. I can't figure out why some people don't see it.
And the rest of us confused at those that think they did see it. I’ll take Bell any day and twice on Sunday.
This isn’t Clark.
He just didn’t produce. Had 2 good games, and 23 bad/avg games. But to each his own I recon.
Sure do wish he'd hurry up and decide. I obviously don't see it as much of a decision. He can be a feature back here or a share carries at LSU. LSU only wants him for depth. We want him because we need a RB.
Of course, maybe he's comparing OLs.
Of course, maybe he's comparing OLs.
I've read where LSU has depth, but they also had a qb lead them in rushing last year, right? That tells me they weren't getting a lot out of their RB room.
But yeah, let's make a decision already.
Yeah, it doesn't add up. The reports say LSU is deep at RB, but you're right that the QB led them in rushing, so it would seem there's an opening.
I do think he'd have competition there and would most likely end up splitting carries. It's almost a surety he'd be the feature back here. In my uneducated opinion.
While I agree that he should take his time and make the best educated decision for himself, assuming they didn't get much from their RB room is wrong.
-Their QB ran for 885 yards which includes sacks of -200 yards- that's 300+ more than anyone on our roster in 2022 (including Lloyd) or 500+ if you remove the sacks which aren't really rushing stats
-Their top 4 RBs accounted for 1,583 yards - that's 38 more than our entire rushing for 2022.
-Their top 4 RBs averaged 5.4 yards/carry - while our top 4 (lloyd, Bell, CBS, JuJu) averaged 4.2
-All 4 of their top 4 returned for 2023 - while we only have JuJu (total 219 yards 3.5/carry)
Their RB room production is exponentially better than ours.
I suppose I'm saying, if I wanted to sell LSU, I'd say they had 4 rb's total 1600(ish) yards, and each got outrushed by the qb. I could sell that as easy playing time to a kid.
But I agree completely that they're better in a better spot that us. If we don't land him, we're looking pretty desperate at that spot. We might just need warm bodies.
yeah - that makes sense. Hopefully we can land him. Definitely a tough task against the home state and his former coach... but he didn't stay home before, and he didn't leave with his coach last year - that's the glass half full in me.
He took his official to LSU over the weekend, so I'd expect a decision soon.
FWIW, his mom was with him there. Don't think she visited with him here. Not a great sign.
FWIW, his mom was with him there. Don't think she visited with him here. Not a great sign.
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What's your gut feeling?
The opportunities or drastically different.
I'm going with Beamer on this one but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.
I thought she posted a message after our visit talking about how awesome the visit was, and how it gave them a lot to think about etc...Pretty sure she's the one that took that pic on the OP. I could be wrong though.