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Lembo was bumped to $725k from $465k. Still underpaid.
Lembo was bumped to $725k from $465k. Still underpaid.
Loggains, 3 yr, $1 million/yr
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He'd better show some results for that kinda scratch.
Truly hope it works out but if it doesn't and Beamer let's him go, the buyout should come from Beamer's salary
If not for Lembo we might not even be going bowling this season. Or just barely.
Where you been hiding under some rocks. They ought to give Pete Lembo back pay for what he did on special teams this year.
I dont even have the energy to be mad anymore. You guys that support this poop show get what you deserve
His resume doesn't support that. Past performance predicts future results. I'm not saying he is the worst hire ever, but he was named the NFL's worst play caller, so where does the bar sit with him? Nobody else wanted the job. There is just no other explanation.
You mean to tell me that paying a successful, proven OC from a mid-major school $1 million/year would not have reeled him in ? I don't buy that for even one second. I believe the explanation is that Loggains got a flowery, glowing recommendation from his direct supervisor, Kendall Briles.
Those guys understand the OC market. Everybody is looking for the next hot name. Most think they can wait it out and do better than us. We've seen this happen with other coaching positions.
Why would a hot OC risk their career at a school known for lack of offense?
Gee a glowing recommendation from a supervisor? Yes, those are always reliable....
Most of those guys are looking forward in their career to a head coaching position. They want a better situation than we can offer. More history of success. More NIL assets. Better chance of success to make the jump to a HC position. South Carolina is a hard sell for offense. Risky for an OC trying to make the next jump. Tough SEC defenses. Most want the easier path. We are going to be more successful getting retreads looking for redemption.
We got 2 good ones in Lembo and White. There are good ones out there who have produced, some, if not all, would jump at the chance to triple and even more so, their pay.
Those aren't OCs. The market for OCs is different, especially when it comes to the SEC and South Carolina. Much easier conference and schools to be an OC in.
The fact that we had to shell out $1 million a year for a 3 year contract for this guy with a very limited record of any success and no interest from anybody else should tell you something about how the OC market feels about the OC job at South Carolina. It is what it is.
I know that Lembo and White are not OCs. My point is that we can get a Coordinator with a good track record. We are not known as Defensive U nor Special Teams U. And the SEC has some super offenses and programs with good special teams. There are Coordinators who would walk on hot coals and crawl to triple and then some their pay. I agree we have not had a good Offensive Coordinator in years. Maybe Loggains will break that trend. I hope so. And I will be supporting him unless he falls on his face. And note I said "unless", not "until". I will be positive and trust Shane on this , as he has earned that trust. I have no doubt that Briles spoke highly of Loggains or, Shane would not have hired him And unless proven differently, I expect Loggains to greatly improve our offense from what Chris Clark described this week as "largely inconsistent".
One other point: Beamer must have really wanted Loggains badly to sign him to a 3-year contract. Satterfield had only a 2 -year contract when he came here. That's an interesting difference.
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In my experience a supervisor will sometimes give a glowing review if that's what it takes to get someone hired away.
One must feel that someone got hosed in this deal. Not so sure Kendal Briles didn't dump an issue on the Arkansas staff on Shane Beamer. Maybe it is the other way around but something is rotten in Denmark.In my experience a supervisor will sometimes give a glowing review if that's what it takes to get someone hired away.
There are other SEC teams on our level who don't seem to struggle hiring OC's. I'm not sure we're as shunned as you think we are.
IMHO, Lembo should be getting more than the new OC. He is actually a proven commodity at his job. The new OC should have a contract that is full of incentive clauses. Like a base pay of 250k and kickers every time the team meets certain statistical goals. 10k for a 150+ yards rushing, 30k for 300 yards passing, 100k for every game where we score 30+. This guy really has not got a resume to justify a 1M salary without substance. If he is creative he could maybe do better than 1M a year.
An Article from the State that I agree with. This is a career defining hire for Beamer. If it succeeds great, if it fails game over. I hope it succeeds, but Loggains resume looks more like Beamer thanks for the memories.
Lembo should be getting $1M/yr - he earned it! And we want to keep him.
Why does it seem that ALL the "New Members" that joined in the last 2-3 weeks all have this same "the program is doomed" attitude? Hmmm....makes you ponder who is actually joining.
Well, after watching the presser, I feel much better about things.
Just wait and see. It's gonna be BIG. I'll go fishing, tinker with my car, etc.
So when you say "I expect Loggains to greatly improve our offense", are you saying that's what you think will happen based on what you know about Loggains?
I'm not sure what that has to do with other SEC teams on our level being able to attract decent OC candidates?
Now I could make joke about you thinking our last OC was a good hire, but your diversions just aren't that interesting right now.
Raise those stakes to $5 million a year and USC can have any OC in the country. Period.
You will learn one day. Money Talks. Losers make excuses. But again, heaven forbid we actually try something new....... that would make entirely too much sense.
LOL. No, we can't. All that would do if inflate the market and we would end up paying even more of a lower level OC.
Any OC we are willing to pay $5 million for, there are dozens of schools that will line up to pay $6 million for.
We aren't outbidding anybody for anything. Except maybe a WBB coach, and that's because most other schools don't give a crap and spend their money where they should, in football.
Idiotic.
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