Looking at this recruiting class makes me think

[wpnetdawg]

Raffo just might not be the recruiter Tommy Raffo KB21 thinks he is. Here are some blurbs about the Ole Miss incoming class. With their players, you discuss draft position and other offers. With our players, you discuss GPAs and what position their great-granddaddies played on the football team.

Stolen from NAFOOM

 

[wpnetdawg]

Raffo just might not be the recruiter Tommy Raffo KB21 thinks he is. Here are some blurbs about the Ole Miss incoming class. With their players, you discuss draft position and other offers. With our players, you discuss GPAs and what position their great-granddaddies played on the football team.

Stolen from NAFOOM

 

[8dog]

but this is the worst class we have ever signed. Ole Miss is signing classes like that every year. But this year, we have signed the absolute worst class. We generally get the guys we want...but for the most part, we target far too many of the wrong guys.

 

[wpnetdawg]

that looked like this class Ole Miss is signing in a long, long time. That and his hitting approach make the thought of him being head coach a scary proposition to me.

 

[Agentdog]

6'4 RHP <font color="#0066CC">Kyle Thornton</font> is the first in-state prospect on the list as he is from Tupelo High School right here in the dirty dirty. Thornton's other legit offer was from Mississippi State. Throwing in the low 90s, it's incredible to think that he will be near the bottom in speed of all the pitchers we sign this year. Much like Will Kline, this is the type of player from which you just have to get production, a Mississippian who has always liked Ole Miss.

That is hilarious. Was this writer formally a rapper in the 90s? I am disappointed he didn't throw some shout outs to his peeps in the Tupizzle.

 

[patdog]

UM signed a good class, but it looks like they'll lose a couple to the draft and several of the rest look pretty ordinary. It does look like they'll wind up with 4-5 guys who will be good players for them though, but he makes it sound a lot better than it really is. And yes, it's definitely better than any class we've signed in a while.

 

[wpnetdawg]

The article is written in a favorable light.

I just don't we could pump enough sunshine to make one of classes sound like that though.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

not a real recruiting site or anything.

 

[Todd4State]

One thing I noticed though, through the sunshine, is that almost all of those players are from somewhere other than Mississippi. And they're from all over the country- Virginia and Missouri and etc.

Now, don't get me wrong- we need to keep recruiting in Mississippi- and if anything we need to do better as USM has built a pretty darn good team with guys that "we didn't want".

But, we need to go after the top players in the country as well. I know that some of those guys are probably going to go pro, but I would also be willing to bet that Ole Miss lands at least one of those guys in that category- see Lance Lynn.

I can't remember us landing a player like that since Maholm and maybe Easley, although Easley wasn't drafted out of high school because he wanted to go to college but was supposedly going to be a high draft pick.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Well, and also with Maholm he made it known that he wouldn't go pro out of high school unless he was given a minimum $1 million signing bonus. That's typically first round level signing money, and therefore he dropped further in the draft than he would have out of high school because teams weren't willing to draft him in the first round, but they also didn't want to waste a 3rd or 4th round pick on him. Obviously it worked out for him as I think he was the 8th overall pick by the Pirates and landed a $2.8 million signing bonus or somewhere in that neighborhood after his 3 years at State.

As for our recruiting, I try not to pay much attention to the blurbs people write. I prefer to see which programs have offered and with baseball, where they are projected, if at all, in the MLB draft.

We've actually had pretty good success with getting guys to come to school instead of going in the draft. We lost Justin Reed and Scott Van Slyke, but other than that, most guys we've signed have come to school rather than go pro out of high school.

 

[Coach34]

is that we were the school that always lost players to the draft- not Mississippi

 

[8dog]

the horrible job Polk has done but Easley, Weatherford, Moore, Rice and others could have gone pro but didn't.

Actually, the fact that Polk has never lost a signee in his return just shows how bad of a job he's done...and how he has advantages that others don't.

 

[Coach34]

if they were bonafide bigtime prospects, we would have lost them out of HS. But lately, we arent losing anyone. We all agree we are losing in recruiting, and that just shouldnt be the case in baseball.

If we want to use the argument that Garrett went to LSU due to tradition and facilities, it applies to baseball as well. Our tradition and facilities are right at the top of the conference in baseball. So why arent we bringing in the AA's?

 

[8dog]

Easley, Weatherford, Moore are as good as it gets. Rice was drafted. Im sure the Yanks are glad he didn't sign.

Our classes just haven't been very deep and we target the wrong guys. This years class though is more than about depth, its lacking in sheer numbers and in talent.

 

[8dog]

"if they were bonafide bigtime prospects, we would have lost them out of HS."

Then how are we supposed to ever get a bigtime prospect?

So no school has ever had a bigtime prospect play for them?

 

[Coach34]

someone prices themselves out of the 1st or 2nd round if they are a consesus pick. Hell, 3 three years ago, the kid that beat us to win the state championship got 550,000 late in the 2nd round. If they are a consensus top 2 rounds pick, the chances of them seeing college are extremely small

 

[8dog]

when I said that easley, weatherford and Moore were as good of recruits as you can get?

 

[Coach34]

a legit 1st round pick just cant afford to go to college and take a chance. There is no place for you to really move up to

 

[8dog]

that very few bigtime prospects go to college and Im telling you b/c I keep up (and you obviously don't) that those guys were huge signs. Noboby has bigtime prospects according to you so why would you expect us to? There is a serious disconnect in this thread.

Im really starting to believe the only 2 things you know about sports are:

1. How to recite offensive rankings stats.

2. How to read an NCAA tournament bracket.

 

[Goat Holder]

you're both saying the same damn thing.

 

[Xartox]

This is Ole Miss's recruits. Where's a list of ours for comparison?

 

[Stormrider81]

Acting like an expert when he really knows very little about sports. Posting stuff he doesn't really believe just to incite responses. Starting arguments just for the heck of it. It's why he got a reply ban put on him in the first place and why there should still be one. Killing threads > having him hijack every thread. Or better yet just ban him outright, he's done more than enough to warrant it.

JR starts stuff just for the sake of it, he gets a reply ban. Mafwhateverhisnamewas admitted to starting stuff for fun and got banned. Peaches has admitted doing the same thing and nothing.</p>

 

[Coach34]

my point was that we havent been losing many signees to the draft lately as opposed to how we used to quite often- nothing more.

I know that getting those guys were great recruits for us, My point was that they werent 1st round guys though, or they wouldnt have been in college, But i'm well aware of how he was being viewed coming out of high school.
Kids start pricing themselves out of the 3rd round or later (Clay Dirks from Hernando and then LSU is the best example of this)

 

[Coach34]

he was missing what I was saying...you have no damn room to talk sports knowledge whatsoever