Makes you want to be a teacher doesn't it

Freddie.B.Cocky

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It's not a secret anymore. If people don't buy into Asheville, they tend to come here. We're becoming a hot bed for California folks. We do get some from Greenville/Spartanburg and Charlotte. Freddie if you come here, the starting prices are around 250K for small move in ready home on a small lot. Land/Homes with creeks, branches, rivers on the property are very scarce and command 500K to a couple of million depending on home sq footage and acreage.

Get here before it's all gone. The Hard Rock Cafe, Hotel and Casino in Bristol is causing a housing shortage from Johnson City to Bristol.
WOW! Those prices are in line with what we would pay here and Marion. Where is the Hard Rock Cafe Hotel located, just for curiosity? Didn't know Bristol had a Casino. But, it won't be hard at all to talk me into moving to the Erwin / Johnson City area.
 

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Which school in Spartanburg County? Call the district office in your grandson's school district and see if there is a high school math teacher that would be willing to tutor on the side for $$$. Another idea is check with Spartanburg Tech/Greenville Tech/USC Upstate any of the colleges to see if there are adjunct professors who tutor on the side for extra $$$ as they teach for low wages. They tend to look for side gigs to supplement the income. I know this sound corny but its worth a shot.
Those are good suggestions…..he is in 5th grade so surely we can find a HS student. When he lived in Knoxville one of the teachers did it on the side and it helped. Math is his cryptonite. We asked about teachers or HS students or college students but they just said they didn’t know of anyone. We just started down this road a few months back so we’ll keep searching. I am from Spartanburg and went to school in the same district. Just thought they would offer a little more help and have some resources to suggest.

But I have never really depended on others and will do what it takes to get him math help as needed.
 

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Not far off. If one of subgroups of focus are “over disciplined”, the school will get dinged.
That’s the problem. There are no groups just children and all will be treated the same. Get your kids out of this racist segregated system of evil. Don’t participate and become just another victim. Your just a number to them.
 

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On this I disagree. Parents should see the lesson plan, and should be able to object. How those objections are handled can take it from a productive policy to totally unmanageable though.
This is a slippery slope. The majority of our students' parents are, themselves, uneducated, whereas, in order to be an educator you must possess at least one advanced degree and have passed national education assessments. Jimmy's mom, who barely graduated high school, has no business critiquing lesson plans. I think it's fine for the lesson plans to be available, but I don't think the majority of viewers would even know what they were looking at.
 
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For the most part, schools have no rules and no discipline or measures in place designed to effectively correct misconduct regardless of the identity of the offender - particularly if the offender identifies as one of the protected groups. Which is very much like how the newly adopted United States legal system operates.
This is not the fault of teachers. Discipline is now on the State School Report Cards, which means that excessive discipline referrals and suspensions count against the schools. Thus, the schools have had to try to find other ways to deal with kids who are derelicts. Instead of removing the disruptive kids from school, they're basically given a warning and sent back to class, undermining the authority of the teacher.
 

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How about helping find those “resource“ teachers in Spartanburg. My grandson needs math help…5th grade. My daughter has called the school several times asking if they even know people that will tutor if we pay for it. Has asked for extra help like staying after school maybe with someone who teaches math. They just tell her they don’t have anyone and don’t know of anyone. Hell they had that when I was in school Decades ago…

I guess we’ll check out a Sylvan Learning center or something like it….my point is they seem very disinterested
You. are. wrong. The problem is that they literally don't have enough teachers to fill the vacancies. At my school, we're several teachers short, so we're having to use other teachers who give up their planning time to teach an extra block, or hire long-term substitutes who aren't even certified to teach those subjects. When they say they don't have anybody, they literally don't have anybody in many cases. It's this sort of commentary that is driving teachers out of the schools. We're getting blamed for kids failing when the parents allow thier kids to curse out teachers with impunity. Kids will curse out a teacher and record it on their brand new iphone while wearing a $400 outfit to school and somehow it's the teacher's fault.
 
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This is a slippery slope. The majority of our students' parents are, themselves, uneducated, whereas, in order to be an educator you must possess at least one advanced degree and have passed national education assessments. Jimmy's mom, who barely graduated high school, has no business critiquing lesson plans. I think it's fine for the lesson plans to be available, but I don't think the majority of viewers would even know what they were looking at.

I understand the fear of this getting out of hand, which is why I said the way the objections are handled can take it from productive to totally unmanageable.

What isn't a slippery slope, but unacceptable from the beginning, is to tell parents they have no right to know or object to what their children are being taught
 

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I understand the fear of this getting out of hand, which is why I said the way the objections are handled can take it from productive to totally unmanageable.

What isn't a slippery slope, but unacceptable from the beginning, is to tell parents they have no right to know or object to what their children are being taught
Only way to fix public schools is to pull your kids out. It’s coming but will take a minute.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/seatt...d-layoffs-amid-plummeting-student-enrollments
 
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I understand the fear of this getting out of hand, which is why I said the way the objections are handled can take it from productive to totally unmanageable.

What isn't a slippery slope, but unacceptable from the beginning, is to tell parents they have no right to know or object to what their children are being taught
I don't think anyone has ever said that parents don't have a right to know. Any parent can request a parent-teacher conference at any time. The information is available at all times. I agree that, as a parent, you should have access to what your child is learning. However, there are many myths about what is being taught in public schools. All teachers have emails and can be reached by calling the school and setting up a parent-teacher conference.
 

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Only way to fix public schools is to pull your kids out. It’s coming but will take a minute.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/seatt...d-layoffs-amid-plummeting-student-enrollments
You're also talking about Seattle, not SC Schools. I was a public school kid and my kids are public school kids. They are learning and excelling in their classes. Like anything else, you can get out of school what you put in. The public schools do have a problem, but it's not really the schools causing the problems. It's the parents who aren't teaching their kids right from wrong and how to respect others. What exactly is a teacher to do when a student is able to curse him/her out and disrupt class without having the support necessary to adequatley discipline the student?
 
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I don't think anyone has ever said that parents don't have a right to know. Any parent can request a parent-teacher conference at any time. The information is available at all times. I agree that, as a parent, you should have access to what your child is learning. However, there are many myths about what is being taught in public schools. All teachers have emails and can be reached by calling the school and setting up a parent-teacher conference.
There should be cameras in every classroom streaming all day every day for parents to look in on anytime they need to. Period. Trust no one with your children especially our corrupt government
 
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You're also talking about Seattle, not SC Schools. I was a public school kid and my kids are public school kids. They are learning and excelling in their classes. Like anything else, you can get out of school what you put in. The public schools do have a problem, but it's not really the schools causing the problems. It's the parents who aren't teaching their kids right from wrong and how to respect others. What exactly is a teacher to do when a student is able to curse him/her out and disrupt class without having the support necessary to adequatley discipline the student?
The teacher should quit and go teach at a private school where that behavior is not tolerated. No way I’d subject myself to public school abuse as a student or a teacher. Zero tolerance
 

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I don't think anyone has ever said that parents don't have a right to know. Any parent can request a parent-teacher conference at any time. The information is available at all times. I agree that, as a parent, you should have access to what your child is learning. However, there are many myths about what is being taught in public schools. All teachers have emails and can be reached by calling the school and setting up a parent-teacher conference.

I don't think anyone else said parents shouldn't know, it was the object part that divided people.
 

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You. are. wrong. The problem is that they literally don't have enough teachers to fill the vacancies. At my school, we're several teachers short, so we're having to use other teachers who give up their planning time to teach an extra block, or hire long-term substitutes who aren't even certified to teach those subjects. When they say they don't have anybody, they literally don't have anybody in many cases. It's this sort of commentary that is driving teachers out of the schools. We're getting blamed for kids failing when the parents allow thier kids to curse out teachers with impunity. Kids will curse out a teacher and record it on their brand new iphone while wearing a $400 outfit to school and somehow it's the teacher's fault.
I am stating facts. I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to teach these days. But it aint the kids wanting extra help driving them away. It’s the administration allowing the inmates to run the asylum. And yes, the costant attempts at social indoctrination instead of teaching aren’t helping.

So my narrative or commentary is factual and it sure as he!! isn’t driving someone out of teaching. I don’t care how pissed off you get, and yes the issue of not having enough help was created by many things you did state correctly. My wife and I used to work with at risk youth….we were part of trying to help. My grandson needing math help in no way contributes to the issues causing the shortage. So get your BS straight before stating my “narrative” is somehow contributing to teacher demise. And yes, their attitude was we don’t have anyone or have any suggestions. They said nothing about teacher shortages which we would easily have understood.
 
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He was stated to be a special needs kid with mental issues. If so, fault lies directly with the school system itself. At his size and with these impulses, he's a security risk to anyone.
When they are designated as 504 or some such cat it is almost impossible to do anything to them. The law does not allow it because its not their fault but rather a disability that causes the problem.
 

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It's not a secret anymore. If people don't buy into Asheville, they tend to come here. We're becoming a hot bed for California folks. We do get some from Greenville/Spartanburg and Charlotte. Freddie if you come here, the starting prices are around 250K for small move in ready home on a small lot. Land/Homes with creeks, branches, rivers on the property are very scarce and command 500K to a couple of million depending on home sq footage and acreage.

Get here before it's all gone. The Hard Rock Cafe, Hotel and Casino in Bristol is causing a housing shortage from Johnson City to Bristol.
THIS IS A SPORTS SITE!!!

Not a word mentioned in your post about Gamecock sports!
 
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For some levity.
 
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what Thanksgiving is ALL ABOUT. Indigenous and Caucasian immigrants sharing food to avoid starvation.
The first Thanksgiving was actually a days long festival sort of thing with games and athletic sports of sorts. I wasn’t taught that in public school for some reason.