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Jtf2217 said:
He's at Tulane. This one was a stinker, however lane does have a history of some pretty impressive offensive showings to his credit.

Top to bottom they have much worse athletes than a Ole Miss type team. Them OM wideouts are problems for any team, especially one who doesn't have SEC athletes top to bottom at DB. This was more of a matter of Jimmy's and Joes vs coaching ability.

How many absolute eggs has stoops teams laid? I'll answer that. (Pretty much every big game ever) Even when considered the better team in some of them).

JS basically never lost at Troy and they competed above their weight class as well, Tulane plays pretty well but they don't have the horses for games like this.
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Their QB at one point was like 1 outta 11 he couldn't throw a rock in the ocean! Id take him anyday of the wk!!
 
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kywildcat1021979 said:
I would still take Jon yesterday.... I'm not taking nothing from this one game he's had way more great games under his belt over his coaching career than to just slam the door shut on him after one bad performance.
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Yep he beat LSU but i guess they wanna throw that out of the window!
 
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gamalielkid said:
I like Cignetti because of his time at James Madison. But you have to be honest- UK, even last year - was better than any team Indiana beat by a lot. Cignetti took the IU job because of money and schedule. If he is doing what he did last year in 4 years - then I will be impressed. One thing people seemed to forget is this - when Stoops "heart" was at UK he did pretty well for himself and UK! Jon Sumrall probably is a very close to clone to Stoops - except he has shown to be better at clock management, game planning, recruiting and hiring assistants. Jon loved UK and his HEART will be huge at UK. Jon was a great recruiter and with his personality and the resources he would have he would probably be a huge success at UK. Stoops ended his career, IMO, with the A & M fiasco. Last year's team had no confidence in
Stoops, however, I will say this, and this is why I am more optimistic about this season now than I was 3 months ago. I believe that Stoops may have or is close to winning this team totally over to believing and trusting in him.

As I have said - the future of UK football is up to him. He destroyed what he had built in 12 hours after the Louisville game two years ago. He is working to get it back. He has to win 6 to get it back on track to where it was before that poor decision. I don't blame him for the A&M fiasco - but Barnhart should have done everything possible to have removed him immediately after that - or at least made a statement to Stoops if you have a bad year in 2024 we will be looking to move on asap. I believe that may be the deal now - if that intent was made to Stoops - nobody would ever know until it happens.

Go Big Blue!
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He don't have a chance in hell of winning 6 games.
 
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3 Putts said:
Curt Cignetti, shows the difference a good HC can make at a perennial doormat.
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Wouldn't you say there is some luck involved with that one? IU had an opening at the right time and hit big with a coach from JMU. It's not like they just made a decision to break the bank and bring in the hottest name in the business. Maybe he could have done the same here but it's not like it was the most obvious choice in the world or one of the big dogs would've already grabbed him. Had he ever had any P4 offers?

Based on one great season they upped his contract to 9 million a year (8m +1m annual retention bonus) and extended it to 2032. I couldn't find any buyout details. It may well pay off in spades but is similar to what Mitch did in 2022 after two great seasons in the past 4 years without the aid of hindsight. If he talks to and negotiates with one of the big programs at some point should they let him come back if he chooses to?
 
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