Michigan spygate gets even funnier

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Photo circulating online that appears to show Stallions, in disguise, on the Central Michigan sideline during their season opening game against Michigan State. CMU has acknowledged the photo, denied any knowledge of Stallions being present and is investigating how he may have managed to infiltrate their sideline.



It's been a pretty drab football season. There are no particularly exciting teams this year and no off-the charts good player, so this is spicing things up a bit.
 

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It's one of the best sports controversies in a long time. This dude approaches football coaching with a serial-killer-like intensity. I'm sure the stories out so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

I'm expecting an Oceans 11-esque movie about this someday.
 
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It'll surely be an ESPN documentary if all is shown to be true.

As a side note, in that pic above, Stallions looks like someone who's about to get busted on "To Catch a Predator".
 

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Ha.

It seems implausible that a total stranger was able to make his way all the way to the team's sideline and just hang out there the whole game without one player, coach or staffer saying a thing. He's standing right with all the coaches.
So many photos of Stalion on the sidelines during the CMU game that denial is ridiculous at this point, so it does beg the question how did he manage to acquire access. (Not attempting to implicate CMU, just wondering how)
 

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Ha.

It seems implausible that a total stranger was able to make his way all the way to the team's sideline and just hang out there the whole game without one player, coach or staffer saying a thing. He's standing right with all the coaches.
He was obviously invited by someone from CMU. They were playing Michigan State. He was there to steal MSU's signs, not CMU.
 
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He was obviously invited by someone from CMU. They were playing Michigan State. He was there to steal MSU's signs, not CMU.
Who in the CMU program gave that guy a sideline pass? Or, who let him have their sideline pass?
 

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If we're all being honest...deep down, we're a little jealous that UM had even one fan with this kind of passion and wreck less abandon for winning at all cost.
He wasn’t just a fan. He was a staffer on Michigan’s payroll



The drama here is gold!


the guy while a staffer in Michigan’s payroll…… disguised himself as a central Michigan fan/staffer….. someone now made his way onto the field during a game and was standing right behind their head coach and peering over his shoulder!
 
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He wasn’t just a fan. He was a staffer on Michigan’s payroll



The drama here is gold!


the guy while a staffer in Michigan’s payroll…… disguised himself as a central Michigan fan/staffer….. someone now made his way onto the field during a game and was standing right behind their head coach and peering over his shoulder!

I know...but he's a lifelong UM fan. He wrote the 500 page Michigan Manifesto before he got the job.
 

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Now we know about Stallion

Who is Clemson's Stallion?

Follow the Signs: How Clemson Football Mastered the (Totally Legal) Art of Signal Stealing​

Dabo Swinney has built a juggernaut, but his program's secret sauce is not so secret within college football



A month ago, Miami offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said the quiet part out loud. He was asked on a Zoom call about Clemson’s reputation for stealing an opponent’s offensive signals that are used to relay play calls from the sidelines, and he met the question head on.

“Clemson is known well for doing it,” Lashlee said.

He went on to both downplay any implication that it was either rare or nefarious—this is no Houston Astros trash can scandal. "That happens everywhere," Lashlee said. "It's just part of the game. We have to be aware of it, but at the same time, we have to go play. There’s nothing in the rules against stealing signals. Just like in baseball—if you can catch on to a signal that a guy is stealing second, you might as well throw him out.”


Let’s throw this out there: If you ask around college football, you’ll hear that stealing signals can be as much a part of the game as blocking and tackling. It is a commonplace means of trying to gain a pre-snap advantage. But after talking to coaches and staff members at half a dozen teams that have played Clemson in recent years, here are the three responses that follow:

  • Knowing laughter.
  • An acknowledgement that the Tigers are an elite signal-swiping program.
  • “That’s off the record.”
This isn’t the first time the topic has arisen. In its 2017 college football preview magazine, Athlon Sports quoted an anonymous coach saying, “They’ll steal your signals. … It’s not a very well-kept secret.” A year earlier, head coach Dabo Swinney tacitly acknowledged the hustle in a story in the Raleigh News & Observer, saying, “You’re in a competition. You’re competing and you want to get every edge that you can. If you have an opponent who’s basically screaming out, ‘Hey, we’re running the ball,’ well, that’s an advantage.”

Nobody is denying it, but no Clemson opponents have been eager to talk publicly about it, either. While signal stealing is a commonly accepted element of the sport that violates no written rules, it does traipse into the sportsmanship gray area—and coaches are loath to talk about opposing teams in that regard. Especially when the opposing team is Clemson, which has the talent to run up scores on just about anyone if it so chooses.
Lashlee was the outlier, willing to call the Tigers what they are—masters of the art of the steal.

 
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I don’t know what Clemson did but stealing signs during games, is an every team thing. Which is totally legal. However what Michigan has done crosses a line.
 

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I don’t know what Clemson did but stealing signs during games, is an every team thing. Which is totally legal. However what Michigan has done crosses a line.

Clemson has been known to cross the line before as well. They have been proven to be cheaters before, especially in the process of becoming elite.

Back when they were first becoming national championship contenders under Dabo, there was some weird stuff going on and lots of smoke. You had teams not even signaling in plays from the get go in games and the QB running to the sideline to get the play, lap top accusations, etc.

Were they sloppy as Michigan? Obviously not, there is no Clemson version of Stallions publicly identified
 
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Clemson has been known to cross the line before as well. They have been proven to be cheaters before, especially in the process of becoming elite.

Back when they were first becoming national championship contenders under Dabo, there was some weird stuff going on and lots of smoke. You had teams not even signaling in plays from the get go in games and the QB running to the sideline to get the play, lap top accusations, etc.

Were they sloppy as Michigan? Obviously not, there is no Clemson version of Stallions publicly identified
They quit stealing signs and are no longer elite? Jealousy is not a good look.
 

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They quit stealing signs and are no longer elite? Jealousy is not a good look.

In my opinion, the current status of their program has more to do with NIL evening the playing field.

If you want say my opinions are based on jealousy, ok, you have your right to your opinion, sure I'm biased and not a fan of Clemson, call it want you want.

I'm also not a person that buys Dabo's holier then thou personality that he likes to portray in the media, and I remember he was on the Alabama staff that got busted back in the day for crossing the line. I think the rise of Dabo after being out of football for a few years after Alabama, through the years is pretty unusual.

In todays digital age, Michigan has been busted in spectacular fashion and the fire has been found and it's on video tape, but there was also a lot of smoke about Clemson doing more advanced things then other teams in sign stealing arena, 8-10 years ago.
 
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In my opinion, the current status of their program has more to do with NIL evening the playing field.

If you want say my opinions are based on jealousy, ok, you have your right to your opinion, sure I'm biased and not a fan of Clemson, call it want you want.

I'm also not a person that buys Dabo's holier then thou personality that he likes to portray in the media, and I remember he was on the Alabama staff that got busted back in the day for crossing the line. I think the rise of Dabo after being out of football for a few years after Alabama, through the years is pretty unusual.

In todays digital age, Michigan has been busted in spectacular fashion and the fire has been found and it's on video tape, but there was also a lot of smoke about Clemson doing more advanced things then other teams in sign stealing arena, 8-10 years ago.
I hate Clemson as much as the next gamecock. I refuse to invest any of my time or mind-share into their program. I really don't care what Dabo does or doesn't do. I can honestly only name two players on their roster. I am not going to allow Dabo or Clemson to live rent free in my head.

Doesn't make me right and you wrong but that's the way I roll.