Mike Poorman article: What Sandy Barbour has turned over to Pat Kraft wrt on-field competitiveness
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Forget about Pat Kraft, what this Department needs is Robert Kraft. And his $$$$$$.
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Poorman's an idiot. Does he want Kraft to spend his way to better Learfield Cup standings, a competition that no one cares about, except the AD who happens to get the trophy at the end of the year?
I can assure you not in Pats top 3. His top 3 are dept finances, facilities and NIL.
I have no idea what they may be. But whatever they are, he's got his work cut out for him, that's for sure
, after taking over for Ms Sadim.Hopefully he will find more success than Mike Williams did.
The current Learfield top 10 trophies are located within BJC in a location that very few see. Been there for years. In essence as someone stated, they mean very little. That article is stupid using that standings as a measure of anything important.
It got clicks. So, it's a measure of how important some people think of it. So....it worked.
Are there any other ways to measure a college's sports teams as a whole against other schools? While I agree that not many people care about Learfield, the real story is how PSU has been trending in recent years. Frankly I believe this trend matches the downward trend in the university in general.
Who cares? It's an apples/oranges comparison. Not all schools compete in the same sports. Not all sports carry the same weight. In the Learfield Cup, field hockey counts as much as as football.
Personally, even as a measure of overall Athletic Department on-field success, I really don't like the Director's Cup - for many reasons, just one of which is you can jump into tiny, insignificant sports, that almost no one bothers to compete in (Water Polo? Fencing? Beach Volleyball? Women's Bowling? Skiing? etc) and all but guarantee a lot of "points" in the Director's Cup.
[EDIT: I see Art jumped in here and made the same cogent point regarding the Director's Cup, basically, as I was typing]
If one does want to see "how they are doing" in broad-based on-field competitiveness (for folks who think that is important), they need to take a deeper look, IMO (or at least something other than the Director's Cup).
To me, looking at how you are doing relative to your peers (ie, within the conference you compete in - in PSU's case, the Big Ten) by looking at your conference standings in each conference sport you participate in, is much more valid. That way you get a measure of how you are doing, on equal footing, in the same competitions, against a group of similarly supported University athletic departments.
In that regard, Penn State's worst year in Big Ten competitiveness was the 2020-21 sports year - at least until 2021-22, which now replaces 2020-21 as the worst. The two worst years ever, after consistent declines over the last 8 years. A nice Capstone Achievement for Ms Excellence Sadim.
It is what it is.
There is a reason (actually, many reasons) she was the first one voted off the island.
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Speak for yourself, me and at least three other people on the planet spend every waking hour of every day dreaming about PSU acquiring the Learfield Cup.
There you go exaggerating again. I've heard it's only two and one of those people is on the fence.
It got us trashing PSU, again. Mission accomplished.
I wouldn’t go that far. While I disagree with the headline of the article, and the central thrust of it, I’d chalk that up to Poorman having a bad day. I think he’s one of the better journalist that covers PSU.
About time you figured out the landscape. Have a latte and scone as a reward. .
Who is trashing PSU? i'm trashing the Learfield Cup. Or maybe you like the Land Grant Trophy, too.
I never heard of this ranking before now but certainly the trend ain't positive here:
2014-15: 8th
2015-16: 20th
2016-17: 8th
2017-18: 12th
2018-19: 13th
2019-20: no Learfield Cup standings due to COVID
2020-21: 39th
2021-22: 42nd
2014-15: 8th
2015-16: 20th
2016-17: 8th
2017-18: 12th
2018-19: 13th
2019-20: no Learfield Cup standings due to COVID
2020-21: 39th
2021-22: 42nd
There is criticism of PSU’s recent performance up-thread. I wasn’t referring to you.
As for the Land Grant Trophy, be right back.
Award-winning colossal failure = Sandy. Did it at Cal and, to move surprise, repeated it at PSU. But hey she sided with Michigan against JoePa.
I realize it's a big "so 
ing what?!" in the overall, and the comparison criteria is wacky, but Top 10 Directors Cup as an aspirational byproduct of overall excellence across our sports is fine with me. That's the way we used to approach it, I believe, and it was nice to be mentioned among the Top 10.
Not necessary, not our purpose, not included among our stated goals or vision, just a nice-to-have. But still, it can ride the coattails of the big focus.
ing what?!" in the overall, and the comparison criteria is wacky, but Top 10 Directors Cup as an aspirational byproduct of overall excellence across our sports is fine with me. That's the way we used to approach it, I believe, and it was nice to be mentioned among the Top 10. Not necessary, not our purpose, not included among our stated goals or vision, just a nice-to-have. But still, it can ride the coattails of the big focus.
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