Miles kicks Perrilloux off the team
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Bank it.
Coach34's Tigers will be mortal this season -- they'll definitely still put up some wins, but without a QB, any shot at a BCS bowl is out the window.
Coach34's Tigers will be mortal this season -- they'll definitely still put up some wins, but without a QB, any shot at a BCS bowl is out the window.
You think any shot is out the window with a team that's loaded at every other position on the field?
with senior QB's at the helm. Off the top of your head can you name LSU's most experienced remaining QB?
Like I said they will likely win 9+, but they won't go to a BCS bowl.
Like I said they will likely win 9+, but they won't go to a BCS bowl.
The lack of Ryan Perriloux may be a blessing if he is as much trouble as he has been. Named one troubled QB that has ever brought his team to a national championship...From what I hear anyway, Jarrett Lee is more than capable to lead the Tigers. It's a shame that a talent like Perriloux is such a thug. Good riddens
actually you said without a QB, any shot at a BCS bowl is out the window. I think they have a shot to win the west and a shot to win the SECCG.
That may happen...but national championship shot with that schedule is nearly impossible unless 2 losses gets you there aGAIN.
I know LSU won't go to the BCS championship game. But saying a BCS bowl game is out of the question isn't.
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i think les did the right thing. nothing hurts your team more then a player that is a cancer no matter how good they are.
First off, he'd already have his QB savior, though I don't know if that would've stopped him in most cases. However, I was told back when Perilloux was being recruited that Orgeron went to see him early in the process and after one visit decided not to pursue him anymore, because he wasn't the type of player he wanted on his team. Could be BS, but that's what Orgeron told my "source" (we all have them) directly.
I'll be curious to see where Perilloux falls. He reminds me a little bit of Willie Williams, with fewer felonies. He's tainted goods at this point, and I'll bet a lot of teams don't give him the time of day because of it similar to when Williams went shopping for schools after leaving Miami.
I'll be curious to see where Perilloux falls. He reminds me a little bit of Willie Williams, with fewer felonies. He's tainted goods at this point, and I'll bet a lot of teams don't give him the time of day because of it similar to when Williams went shopping for schools after leaving Miami.
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As I just said on Nafoom, this basically boils down to Miles determining that Perilloux's off the field antics are enough of a detriment to the team to outweigh the positives he brings. With a walk on, you have a shorter leash, because they can't do as much to help you win. With your star players, you have a longer leash, because even if they have problems off the field, what they do on the field may be enough to outweigh those negatives/distractions.
Perilloux obviously became too big of a distraction.
Nothing to argue...Perriloux is a LOSER and LSU will be good with or without him. We were a longshot to win it all next year anyway.
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you know, he's the master talent evaluator. I swear the guy just looked at stars and then offered. Perriwinkle wasn't good enough, but Tig, the pillow thieves, and countless others were. This is not a pissing contest, so don't come back with Thug 6 or Pistolgate. It's just to show that the notion that O turned someone down because of off the field problems is laughable.
All I'm telling you is what my source told me that Orgeron told him. It may have been a BS excuse by Orgeron because he wasn't going to land Perilloux, but if it was an excuse, it was a pretty good one considering he turned out to be right about Perilloux.
His words were that he didn't wante a player like that on his team. Again, Orgeron could've been BSing to save face, but it's what he said, before Perilloux signed. This was also early enough in the process that Perilloux hadn't narrowed down his selection that much, so it gives me reason to believe he might have been telling the truth.
Remember Perilloux was the one who said he was going to win the Heisman as a freshman, so I'm sure he was a cocky SOB in high school. A talented, cocky SOB, yes, but he obviously had an attitude problem. Obviously a lot of schools were willing to overlook that, as is usually the case when you're talented, but that doesn't mean that you won't turn some teams away.
Orgeron sucked at a lot of things (hence why he's no longer our coach), but talent evaluation was not one of them. Talent development, game-planning, and in-game decisions, he sucked at, but he was pretty good at talent evaluation. He just didn't know what to do with them after he got them. And don't give me that GP crap about him looking at stars and then offering. That's a load of BS, because he usually had at least 75% of his offers out by the time the recruiting sites got around to ranking players. I can't believe you're making me defend Orgeron, but you're just wrong about this.
Every coach takes players with questionable character if they think they have enough talent. But every coach also has a limit on what they are willing to take and how many flawed players they are willing to take.
His words were that he didn't wante a player like that on his team. Again, Orgeron could've been BSing to save face, but it's what he said, before Perilloux signed. This was also early enough in the process that Perilloux hadn't narrowed down his selection that much, so it gives me reason to believe he might have been telling the truth.
Remember Perilloux was the one who said he was going to win the Heisman as a freshman, so I'm sure he was a cocky SOB in high school. A talented, cocky SOB, yes, but he obviously had an attitude problem. Obviously a lot of schools were willing to overlook that, as is usually the case when you're talented, but that doesn't mean that you won't turn some teams away.
Orgeron sucked at a lot of things (hence why he's no longer our coach), but talent evaluation was not one of them. Talent development, game-planning, and in-game decisions, he sucked at, but he was pretty good at talent evaluation. He just didn't know what to do with them after he got them. And don't give me that GP crap about him looking at stars and then offering. That's a load of BS, because he usually had at least 75% of his offers out by the time the recruiting sites got around to ranking players. I can't believe you're making me defend Orgeron, but you're just wrong about this.
Every coach takes players with questionable character if they think they have enough talent. But every coach also has a limit on what they are willing to take and how many flawed players they are willing to take.
Texas and LSU went all out to sign this guy, and somehow we were in there too. That's probably an all time WTF, but regardless the point is two top college programs put major effort into getting his sig. The belief that O backed off of RP because of attitude/thuggishness/whatever is retarded and if you buy that line you are a moron. Not calling you out specifically Bruiser, just throwing that out there in general. Orgeron went all out to sign a complete idiot of a player who everyone else backed off of due to grades, but he backs off the #1 prospect in the country who has two national title contenders battling fiercely for his services? Complete and pure BS.
I didn't say that Orgeron was definitely telling the truth. I'm just telling you what he said before RP signed anywhere, and given Perilloux's antics while at LSU, it's at least somewhat plausible.
Like I said, every coach makes exceptions on certain players. They all decide on whether a player is talented enough for them to make up for the off the field crap they see. Orgeron said he didn't want Perilloux on his team. It could've just been an excuse for not going after the guy, but either way, he turned out to be right about RP, whether it was dumb luck or an actual decision on his part.
Obviously Texas, LSU, and MSU all decided that the attitude problem was a risk they were willing to take in a trade off for RP's talent. I'm also sure there were some schools that determined he wasn't worth the risk, whether we were one of them or not.
Like I said, every coach makes exceptions on certain players. They all decide on whether a player is talented enough for them to make up for the off the field crap they see. Orgeron said he didn't want Perilloux on his team. It could've just been an excuse for not going after the guy, but either way, he turned out to be right about RP, whether it was dumb luck or an actual decision on his part.
Obviously Texas, LSU, and MSU all decided that the attitude problem was a risk they were willing to take in a trade off for RP's talent. I'm also sure there were some schools that determined he wasn't worth the risk, whether we were one of them or not.
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if he'd wanted to. That's all there is to it. What Orgeron thinks didn't matter. But I'd still wager your source was wrong.
And by the way, his coveted 2006 class has turned out just peachy, hasn't it?
And by the way, his coveted 2006 class has turned out just peachy, hasn't it?
Dude was the #1 prospect that year and had his grades and everything in order. Yes he was cocky, so are 99% of highly coveted QBs. Also, I'm pretty sure Miles isn't sorry he signed him, given the fact that he had to fill in for Flynn in the SEC title game last year and LSU obviously doesn't win the national title without winning that game.
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