Mississippi needs to get on board

615dawg

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This is why our kids are leaving and not coming back. If Arkansas can do it, we can. The fact that we haven't made Joe Max Higgins the state director of economic development and given him free rein is so Mississippi.

 

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Not to make it political, but let's be honest someone is running that program for her. She is not what one would call a beacon of intelligence. Not passing any judgement on conservatives in general just this one particular person. I have no doubt she is taking credit for this but someone else is dealing with the nuts and bolts.
 

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One of our biggest issue is poor public schools. Private schools are foreign concept to many outside the state. Since parents make public schools, and we have more than our fair share of sh-tty parents, that's not not going to change. Concentrate our efforts on the few areas with good public schools, which unfortunately leaves out most of the state. Public schools are the difference between Oxford and Sarkvegas.
 

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MS is behind in this area. Toyota is pumping money into North MS for tech schooling but not sure how much and what they are focused on. If I had to guess probably the type of technical workers they need. Which is smart. AL has an automation tech center in Decatur that has just about any brand of robotic equipment built into cells that do things such as assembly, welding, conveying, etc. It is pretty big and very impressive. If MS has something like that I'm not aware of it.
 

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Not to make it political, but let's be honest someone is running that program for her. She is not what one would call a beacon of intelligence. Not passing any judgement on conservatives in general just this one particular person. I have no doubt she is taking credit for this but someone else is dealing with the nuts and bolts.
I assume someone whom she appointed or at least approved of.
 

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One of our biggest issue is poor public schools. Private schools are foreign concept to many outside the state. Since parents make public schools, and we have more than our fair share of sh-tty parents, that's not not going to change. Concentrate our efforts on the few areas with good public schools, which unfortunately leaves out most of the state. Public schools are the difference between Oxford and Sarkvegas.
I'm out of state, but Mississippi's schools have actually made tremendous strides over the last few years. Achievement scores in MS schools have traditionally been near the bottom of national rankings but have been climbing quickly. I think last I saw it was mid 20s. I would hope that will eventually translate to better economic opportunities.
 

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MS is behind in this area. Toyota is pumping money into North MS for tech schooling but not sure how much and what they are focused on. If I had to guess probably the type of technical workers they need. Which is smart. AL has an automation tech center in Decatur that has just about any brand of robotic equipment built into cells that do things such as assembly, welding, conveying, etc. It is pretty big and very impressive. If MS has something like that I'm not aware of it.
Amazon Web Services with two huge sites under development in the Jackson metro area and is already pumping money into tech-related education in the area. Things are happening, but like everyone has mentioned, we are slow to start.
 
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More likely whoever he father told her to put into the job. She is a nepo baby if there ever was one. Again, I am not trying to cast dispersions on conservatives in anyway just this one particular person.
Boy, she really bothers you. Ha.

Anyways..... NWA is a growing area with a lot to offer as far as quality of life for families.

I guess the only comparable area in MS that offers infrastructure, a labor force and quality of life to attract the talent needed......is the coast or Tupelo.... maybe the GTR...... which Tupelo and the GTR aren't close to NWA if we are being honest.
 

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I'm out of state, but Mississippi's schools have actually made tremendous strides over the last few years. Achievement scores in MS schools have traditionally been near the bottom of national rankings but have been climbing quickly. I think last I saw it was mid 20s. I would hope that will eventually translate to better economic opportunities.
Unfortunately, i believe there's a lot "smoke and mirrors" in those rankings. Teaching to test, and sometimes cheating, is common. Don't get me wrong we have some areas with great schools, but that's a very small percentage of the state.
 
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Boy, she really bothers you. Ha.

Anyways..... NWA is a growing area with a lot to offer as far as quality of life for families.

I guess the only comparable area in MS that offers infrastructure, a labor force and quality of life to attract the talent needed......is the coast or Tupelo.... maybe the GTR...... which Tupelo and the GTR aren't close to NWA if we are being honest.
Yes she does. Most nepo babies do.
 

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Boy, she really bothers you. Ha.

Anyways..... NWA is a growing area with a lot to offer as far as quality of life for families.

I guess the only comparable area in MS that offers infrastructure, a labor force and quality of life to attract the talent needed......is the coast or Tupelo.... maybe the GTR...... which Tupelo and the GTR aren't close to NWA if we are being honest.
The Coast isn't really similar. It's got jobs but they aren't tech, as we think about it. All the Stennis workers live in Louisiana, and Ingalls is Ingalls. Coast is just its own animal, honestly. Plus, every 35 years, you're going to have to rebuild. Honestly, what the Coast is, is a 'decent' area to live and work in MS if you like the water, and a 'decent' tourism spot with food/casinos/water.

If we want to create a NWA, it's honestly got to be in NE MS. But like everything else in MS, we're so spread out there. Oxford-Tupelo-Starkville all an hour away from each other. The advantage NWA has is that, 1 - Ole Miss and MSU are combined with everything, and 2 - all the towns are close together. Starkville and Columbus are farther apart than Fayetteville (southernmost) to Bentonville (northernmost), which make up NWA.

I'm almost resigned to the idea that MS is just going to have to go a whole different direction. We're already so behind.
 
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Unfortunately, i believe there's a lot "smoke and mirrors" in those rankings. Teaching to test, and sometimes cheating, is common. Don't get me wrong we have some areas with great schools, but that's a very small percentage of the state.
Show me a good school district & I’ll show you parents that give a ****. Show me a bad school district and I’ll you parents that don’t give a ****. It’s really that simple. As evidence I present to you the demo at RHS. When it opened in 2004ish it was probably 80% Caucasian. It’s now 80%+ African American. And it’s still a great public school. It’s because the parents are active and involved. Many moved over from Jackson over the last 2 decades to be a part of it.

Too often in education we equate the issue to the system and think the answer is funding. It’s the home 99 times out of 100 and that goes across every demo you want to carve out.

Baltimore public schools get massive funding and still has horrific scoring in their state. It’s not the admins, teachers, or politicians failing these kids, it’s their parents https://foxbaltimore.com/amp/news/p...owest-possible-scores-on-maryland-report-card
 

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More likely whoever her father told her to put into the job. She is a nepo baby if there ever was one. Again, I am not trying to cast dispersions on conservatives in anyway just this one particular person.
You know her? You’ve had conversations with her to lead you to believe she’s dumb and could never do this herself? You know someone that knows her well and shared this information with you?
 
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Show me a good school district & I’ll show you parents that give a ****. Show me a bad school district and I’ll you parents that don’t give a ****. It’s really that simple.
A big segment of the parents that give a shlt are going private or homeschooling, all across America. Especially true in MS. So, while I agree with you, @greenbean.sixpack is also correct in that there aren't many good schools in MS. The few good ones left (with a reputation) are gaining so many students that it's creating a parabolic effect, which results in 7A being so much bigger than 6A/5A, etc.

There are some decent small ones still around but they are few and far between. It's because people are sheep and flock to whatever the shiny thing is, and like you said, garbage in, garbage out. It's not an exact science, obviously some of the big ones are still bad too but you get the general point, so none of you @ me with your exceptions to the rule. I'm sure @L4Dawg will pipe up with mUh SmItHvIlLe or something
 

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You know her? You’ve had conversations with her to lead you to believe she’s dumb and could never do this herself? You know someone that knows her well and shared this information with you?
For the record, no I do not know her personally as most of the people that comment about different people on here do not know the folks they are commenting on either. I am not saying she is a moron, but a scholar she is not. Do you think she would have the job she has without her dad's influence in that state? The answer is a very simple one, no. I am not taking issue with all conservatives, or liberals for that matter. If you like nepo babies, then I guess to each his own.
 
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A big segment of the parents that give a shlt are going private or homeschooling, all across America. Especially true in MS. So, while I agree with you, @greenbean.sixpack is also correct in that there aren't many good schools in MS. The few good ones left (with a reputation) are gaining so many students that it's creating a parabolic effect, which results in 7A being so much bigger than 6A/5A, etc.

There are some decent small ones still around but they are few and far between. It's because people are sheep and flock to whatever the shiny thing is, and like you said, garbage in, garbage out. It's not an exact science, obviously some of the big ones are still bad too but you get the general point, so none of you @ me with your exceptions to the rule. I'm sure @L4Dawg will pipe up with mUh SmItHvIlLe or something
It’s definitely a parabolic, snowball effect. Parents that care congregate around the good school districts. In turn heats up housing, etc…. But even that said, there are good parents in less desirable school districts who have good kids that go to college. Just depends on the home but there are def more pitfalls to avoid if you go to Provine vs Germantown. I’ve encountered several good kids from Murrah & Calloway.
 
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"I'm almost resigned to the idea that MS is just going to have to go a whole different direction. We're already so behind."

Our out of wedlock birth rate and percentage of children living in single parent homes are both among the 2 or 3 highest in the country. Mississippi's ever getting off the bottom in education must start with people taking personal responsibility and quit waiting for the government to raise and educate their children. So you might as well become "completely resigned" that we're going to have to take a different direction.
 

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Not to make it political, but let's be honest someone is running that program for her. She is not what one would call a beacon of intelligence. Not passing any judgement on conservatives in general just this one particular person. I have no doubt she is taking credit for this but someone else is dealing with the nuts and bolts.
The Devil is well familiar with the details.
Yes she does. Most nepo babies do.
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Our out of wedlock birth rate and percentage of children living in single parent homes are both among the 2 or 3 highest in the country. Mississippi's ever getting off the bottom in education must start with people taking personal responsibility and quit waiting for the government to raise and educate their children. So you might as well become "completely resigned" that we're going to have to take a different direction.
^^^^ one of the most insightful comments ever posted here.
 

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A lot of it too is kids don't seem to be motivated to get into technical fields. I work in automation and finding young people for entry level positions is almost nonexistent. I saw a picture of the local paper last week where they had 3 young successful business people telling their stories to a group of HS students. You could tell from the students in the background they had no interest. Looking down and staring off into space.

On another note is Gov SHS getting better looking or have my standards lowered? I feel sure we know what clintoninhelen thinks about her. Just concerned about me.
 
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Show me a good school district & I’ll show you parents that give a ****. Show me a bad school district and I’ll you parents that don’t give a ****. It’s really that simple. As evidence I present to you the demo at RHS. When it opened in 2004ish it was probably 80% Caucasian. It’s now 80%+ African American. And it’s still a great public school.
I think Clinton is likely a similar situation?
 

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For the record, no I do not know her personally as most of the people that comment about different people on here do not know the folks they are commenting on either. I am not saying she is a moron, but a rogue scholar she is not. Do you think she would have the job she has without her dad's influence in that state? The answer is a very simple one, no. I am not taking issue with all conservatives, or liberals for that matter. If you like nepo babies, then I guess to each his own.
I find the “rogue scholars” are the ones you gotta keep an eye on.
 
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A big segment of the parents that give a shlt are going private or homeschooling, all across America. Especially true in MS. So, while I agree with you, @greenbean.sixpack is also correct in that there aren't many good schools in MS. The few good ones left (with a reputation) are gaining so many students that it's creating a parabolic effect, which results in 7A being so much bigger than 6A/5A, etc.

There are some decent small ones still around but they are few and far between. It's because people are sheep and flock to whatever the shiny thing is, and like you said, garbage in, garbage out. It's not an exact science, obviously some of the big ones are still bad too but you get the general point, so none of you @ me with your exceptions to the rule. I'm sure @L4Dawg will pipe up with mUh SmItHvIlLe or something
The bad thing is that, in the rural areas (i.e. most of MS), there aren't many good private schools either. Our kids do online school, which is I think the best current option. It's not homeschool, because we don't do the teaching, but it is done in the home. It's expensive, but it's worth it to keep our kids out of the cesspools around here.
 

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That's not really true. A lot of the newer implants, yes (RSI, Rocket Lab, Rolls Royce, etc.). But many of the NASA, NASA Contractor, and military workers live in MS.
I was going to post the same thing. I worked out there for a few years, commuted from Ocean Springs, which is why I don't work there anymore, it was an hour each way. Most of the people I worked with lived in MS albeit much closer to the base. Long Beach, Waveland, etc.
 
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For the record, no I do not know her personally as most of the people that comment about different people on here do not know the folks they are commenting on either. I am not saying she is a moron, but a rogue scholar she is not. Do you think she would have the job she has without her dad's influence in that state? The answer is a very simple one, no. I am not taking issue with all conservatives, or liberals for that matter. If you like nepo babies, then I guess to each his own.
Or it could be the fact that she more than held her own as the President's Press Secretary, and then followed that up by doing a good job as a news commentator, is a NYT best selling author, and served on the Fulbright board. It sounds like you're just jealous that she's made it further than you ever will. Truth be told, I would bet a very large sum that she would outscore you on any IQ test or ACT/SAT type test.
 

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This is why our kids are leaving and not coming back. If Arkansas can do it, we can. The fact that we haven't made Joe Max Higgins the state director of economic development and given him free rein is so Mississippi.



If that's a Cyber truck (which it looks like) she better take it back to the shop. Recall #5 in less than a year was announced this morning.
 
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****. Some of you people are just miserable.

This had nothing to do with politics. She just happens to be the sitting governor of a similar state promoting real economic development. The freaking TopGolf across from Ridgeland HS got major promotion from our state workforce leaders.

The AWS campus is a great start, but we are still 10 years behind. From what I am hearing, Amazon is not happy with the applicant base and is enticing workers from other facilities to consider moving to MS.
 
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