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ckDOG

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Had a thought. The vast majority of us on the board view the NIL era and portal (with no sit out requirement) as generally a bad thing for MSU fans. It's chaotic, unpredictable, and expensive. It makes sense for a program like ours and the fans are stressed by it. I don't think many here would argue against that reality.

Question: does the average fan that the media networks rely on to get eyeballs on TVs and clicks on articles view the chaos as entertainment and it increases their interest? I've been quick to blame the power brokers for being cowards and failing to implement rules for stability and predictably (the NFL has those, why can't we?), but the insanity of it all might be by intentional design to increase short term revenues.

Thoughts? Maybe this is obvious and my MSU Eeyore attitude and blinded me from the obvious?
 

Bulldog45

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Question: does the average fan that the media networks rely on to get eyeballs on TVs and clicks on articles view the chaos as entertainment and it increases their interest?
Reminds me a lot of pro wrestling back in the WCW/WWE rivalry heyday with the NWO stuff thrown in. Then you’ve got the lower tier ECW where up and comers make a name for themselves and get picked off by the big boys.
 

ckDOG

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Who the 17 thinks it's a good idea to hand 7 figures to a 17n 18 year old?

WHO. IN. THE. ACTUAL. 17????
NOT THIS GUY.

I think there will be a period of time where fans flock to the watch the train wreck and the rich get richer. After a while, the novelty will wear off and the fans will realize the product overall sucks and finds other shiny objects to pay attention to on Saturdays. The pendulum will swing back the other way.

If I'm being honest, it's all brilliant on part of the guys at the top. They drive up ratings with the insanity of buying rosters every year and their paychecks increase while the fans foot the bill for the NIL slush funds.
 

Maroon13

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Who the 17 thinks it's a good idea to hand 7 figures to a 17n 18 year old?

WHO. IN. THE. ACTUAL. 17????
Billionaires evidently, that can't actually buy a real professional team but want a quasi professional team.

Seriously, I agree. D.A.F.
 

Dawgbite

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It’s been my experience that people with money aren’t stupid and careless with money. It goes against everything they did to get money, trust fund babies excepted. The NIL is new and shiny and the latest greatest way of exuding wealth but there’s no return on the investment. It’s not sustainable. But what do I know, I worked for a living!
 

thatsbaseball

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Big NIL spending (such as OM) without the desired results is like buying a super expensive bottle rocket. High anticipation, lift off, 3 seconds of sparkly amusement and then all you have to show for your millions is a burnt red stick and some ashes
 

Maroon13

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It’s been my experience that people with money aren’t stupid and careless with money. It goes against everything they did to get money, trust fund babies excepted. The NIL is new and shiny and the latest greatest way of exuding wealth but there’s no return on the investment. It’s not sustainable. But what do I know, I worked for a living!
This is true and we will see.

Take for instance the billionaire that mostly funded Michigans collective. How much will he continue to give for a college football team that gives him nothing back in return.

However I have a feeling there are some billionaires in powder blue that get a stiffy from all this and will play the game each year.

At least the pro franchise guys get some ROI.
 

HRMSU

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Most economical/player loyalty approach might be to just run the wishbone and power read option on offense and the old Joe Lee Dunn defense. Plug and play baby ****
 

wasabaka

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Big NIL spending (such as OM) without the desired results is like buying a super expensive bottle rocket. High anticipation, lift off, 3 seconds of sparkly amusement and then all you have to show for your millions is a burnt red stick and some ashes
Bâton Rouge Brûlé
 

Bulldog45

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Big NIL spending (such as OM) without the desired results is like buying a super expensive bottle rocket. High anticipation, lift off, 3 seconds of sparkly amusement and then all you have to show for your millions is a burnt red stick and some ashes
Not really. They got to pound their chests from January until almost the end of September before reality set in, so they got to claim they were contenders for almost 9 months. Of course that has more value for some as opposed to others, but it works well for that fan base.
 

Perd Hapley

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It’s been my experience that people with money aren’t stupid and careless with money. It goes against everything they did to get money, trust fund babies excepted. The NIL is new and shiny and the latest greatest way of exuding wealth but there’s no return on the investment. It’s not sustainable. But what do I know, I worked for a living!
And they aren’t being stupid and careless now, either. The ones writing these huge checks are actually profiting off the system….believe it or not.

The super rich who are well known and influential program supporters are using seed donations to attract other less wealthy “investors” to particular collectives who want to buy their way into high society. They take a small cut of each one as finders fee “overhead”, and its enough to offset their own donation, and then some. And if it isn’t, hello tax write-off. One way or another, all they gotta do is slap some smart money on the table, and then the dumb money comes rolling in. They may even have some lieutenants under them doing the same thing. It’s a glorified pyramid scheme.

End of the day, the ones footing the bill for NIL are the same ones footing all the other bills….the working middle class.
 
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DAWGSANDSAINTS

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It's hard to comprehend spending 15 million a year on players every year.
And that’s now. If this BS continues, well look back in 3-5 years and say it was cheap back then to put a roster together.
But if I hear Sankey or any administrator say another time it’s about the “student athlete”
 

The Peeper

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After a while, the novelty will wear off and the fans will realize the product overall sucks and finds other shiny objects to pay attention to on Saturdays. The pendulum will swing back the other way.

The pendulum swung already for me two seasons ago
 
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WrightGuy821

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I just don't think the model of middle-class fans supporting NIL collectives is sustainable. We can't afford to spend $10 million every year on a roster, especially if the university isn't chipping in with revenue sharing.
 
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