My beloved Yankees lost the World Series last night!
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As I posted on another thread. Nothing as sweet as to see the Yanks go down in agonzing fashion.
I always get the "How did you become a Yankees fan if you grew up in South Carolina???"
My 6th grade teacher was a Yankees fan and I thought he was a super cool dude, so I just started saying I was a Yankees fan. In actuality, I knew nothing about sports really at the time. Couldn't have told you who Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantle were. This was also the 80s when the Yankees SUCKED. We moved for my 7th grade year and this is the first time I can remember all the guys in school talking sports, so I just went along and kept up with being a Yankees fan, though everyone else was a Braves fan. They were terrible at the time, but they became my team and have been ever since.
For me, the golden years are the 1996-2000 teams. They get a lot of flack for "buying" teams, but reality is the core of those teams was home-grown talent: Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, Rivera, Williams. They added Paul O'Neill, in what was considered a lousy trade at the time. He was a so-so player and middling hitter with the Reds but morphed overnight into a tremendous hitter for the Yankees, and he really became the heart and soul of those championship teams. Similarly, Tino Martinez, was picked up from Seattle to replace Don Mattingly, in what most Yankees fans considered an underwhelming move for a player who would never replace Donnie Baseball. He turned into a cornerstone and power hitter for those teams and a beloved Yankee. Other guys, like Scott Brosius, were added who weren't big names, but had the right mentality.
This team just had no real chemistry. No fire or passion. We really haven't had that since then. We have a collection of good players but no chemistry. Again, the Yankees get a lot of guff for their high payroll, but folks who follow baseball know that late 90s dynasty was really fueled by just the right mix of players. Lots of homegrown talent, trades that just turned out very strongly in our favor like O'Neill and Martinez and key role players like Scott Brosius.
Honestly, I wasn't even all that interested in the WS this year. I knew the Dodgers were the more complete team and expected to lose. This team just didn't have a "go and take it" mentality". I didn't to lose as badly as we did, but once the Dodgers hit the walk-off grand slam in Game 1, that was the series.
Those late 90s teams just had a "refuse to lose" mindset. Every button Torre pushed seemed to produce the desired result. Boone screwed us this series by pulling Cole when he was dealing in Game 1 and only had 88 pitches. The game unraveled from their and the series ultimately was lost.
My 6th grade teacher was a Yankees fan and I thought he was a super cool dude, so I just started saying I was a Yankees fan. In actuality, I knew nothing about sports really at the time. Couldn't have told you who Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantle were. This was also the 80s when the Yankees SUCKED. We moved for my 7th grade year and this is the first time I can remember all the guys in school talking sports, so I just went along and kept up with being a Yankees fan, though everyone else was a Braves fan. They were terrible at the time, but they became my team and have been ever since.
For me, the golden years are the 1996-2000 teams. They get a lot of flack for "buying" teams, but reality is the core of those teams was home-grown talent: Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, Rivera, Williams. They added Paul O'Neill, in what was considered a lousy trade at the time. He was a so-so player and middling hitter with the Reds but morphed overnight into a tremendous hitter for the Yankees, and he really became the heart and soul of those championship teams. Similarly, Tino Martinez, was picked up from Seattle to replace Don Mattingly, in what most Yankees fans considered an underwhelming move for a player who would never replace Donnie Baseball. He turned into a cornerstone and power hitter for those teams and a beloved Yankee. Other guys, like Scott Brosius, were added who weren't big names, but had the right mentality.
This team just had no real chemistry. No fire or passion. We really haven't had that since then. We have a collection of good players but no chemistry. Again, the Yankees get a lot of guff for their high payroll, but folks who follow baseball know that late 90s dynasty was really fueled by just the right mix of players. Lots of homegrown talent, trades that just turned out very strongly in our favor like O'Neill and Martinez and key role players like Scott Brosius.
Honestly, I wasn't even all that interested in the WS this year. I knew the Dodgers were the more complete team and expected to lose. This team just didn't have a "go and take it" mentality". I didn't to lose as badly as we did, but once the Dodgers hit the walk-off grand slam in Game 1, that was the series.
Those late 90s teams just had a "refuse to lose" mindset. Every button Torre pushed seemed to produce the desired result. Boone screwed us this series by pulling Cole when he was dealing in Game 1 and only had 88 pitches. The game unraveled from their and the series ultimately was lost.
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As I posted on another thread. Nothing as sweet as to see the Yanks go down in agonzing fashion.
As a die-hard Yankee fan myself, there was nothing very agonizing about it.
I think most Yankee fans will tell you we knew this team didn't have "it". We lucked out in the AL playoffs with a fairly easy path to the WS, but I knew the Dodgers were the overall superior team.
The team was just flat throughout and never put up much of a fight.
But, yes, I know as a Red Sox fan, no matter how the Yankees lose all that matters to you is that they lose. I feel the same way in reverse. My consolation prize for the season is: at least the Red Sox were worse than us.
Not nearly as much as I got/still get "How are you a Dodgers fan?" FWIW, my granddaddy and Kirby Higbe were best friends when Daddy was growing up (the families were neighbors). He took Daddy and Granddaddy to games at Ebbetts during the 1955 WS. We've been Dodgers ever since.
Being a Yankees fans makes more sense in SC, given Coach Richardson is here.
Watch the top of the 5th and tell me that was not agonizing to watch. (Not to me of course, it was glorious)
I don't know. It all just felt sort of inevitable. No team in history has come back from a 3-0 deficit in the WS, so it was a sure thing that we were losing the series. No team up against a 3-0 deficit had even forced a Game 6. Yeah, I started believing when we were up 5-0 and Cole was absolutely dealing, but the top of the 5th was more of a "here we go again" kind of feeling.
I enjoyed it as a Dodger fan, but the complete lack of fundamentally sound baseball was agonizing as a baseball fan.
I noticed you made sure to mention a 3-0 deficit in the WS, and force a game 6, but conveniently left out only 1 team in the history of baseball has come back from a 3-0 deficit to win a series, and conversely only 1 team in the history of baseball has ever blown a 3 game lead in the playoffs, but why quibble.
Well, yes, we made it a necessity to be specific.I noticed you made sure to mention a 3-0 deficit in the WS, and force a game 6, but conveniently left out only 1 team in the history of baseball has come back from a 3-0 deficit to win a series, and conversely only 1 team in the history of baseball has ever blown a 3 game lead in the playoffs, but why quibble.
If you want to talk agonizing, THAT was agonizing. After seeing that, the bar is raised pretty high for what can be considered agonizing.
As it pertains to this year's team, it felt like we kind of stumbled and bumbled our way into the postseason, basically being a .500 team down the stretch. I could tell in our Cleveland series that we were lacking that killer instinct, so my WS expectations were not high.
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4 Days in October.I noticed you made sure to mention a 3-0 deficit in the WS, and force a game 6, but conveniently left out only 1 team in the history of baseball has come back from a 3-0 deficit to win a series, and conversely only 1 team in the history of baseball has ever blown a 3 game lead in the playoffs, but why quibble.
A deeper documentary currently airing on Netflix
The Comeback
https://www.netflix.com/title/81721570
Well, you've been through the best of times and worst of times.
Being born in 1977, I've now lived through the longest and 2nd longest title droughts in team history.
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