National championship: What does it take to recruit like Alabama and Georgia? (yahoo.com)
A bit long, but a good read. CJF is both mentioned and quoted.
A bit long, but a good read. CJF is both mentioned and quoted.
National championship: What does it take to recruit like Alabama and Georgia?
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JMO on Alabama...they get great players from all over the country. And they coach the hell out of them! When I watch them play, I look at 22 players that look like they can all play in the NFL. Especially the OL and DL...
Q: What does it take to recruit like Alabama and Georgia?
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“That’s why Franklin — who has the nation’s No. 6 incoming class at Penn State — said it takes an all-in commitment from the entire administration.
“Everybody’s fighting and scratching and clawing for literally the smallest margin that you can find,” Franklin said.”
An "all-in commitment from the entire administration" is not going to happen because people have politicized college football. I won't get into the details of the politics on this board. Also, I don't believe Franklin and his staff are willing to make the personal sacrifices that Saban and Smart.
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Very good article and very true For those that don't get that , they probably never will
This isn't ivy league or military academy football , which ruled back in the day . It is football today and some cannot accept that
Sorry, that is a lazy analysis. Factor in that Bama has excellent facilities, the best coaching and analytical staff in college football, a supportive ($$$) fan base, a history of excellence and achievement on the field of play, and the effort level from all concerned to make it work gives them the best shot to land talent. Don't lecture us about a "football mentality" because a vast majority of PSU players are also there just for the football. We can take solace that PSU is better academically but even that standing has slipped. But the question was what does it take to recruit like Georgia and Alabama? The answer is more than you state.
Having lived in the South for most of my life, I tend to agree with many of the points you presented. Unfortunately that will never be a popular opinion here where several posters believe that anyone other than PSU (especially in the SEC) that wins has to, gots to be, must be all out engaged in full time skulduggery. There’s a lot of dirty laundry in the SEC, but often not as bad other places.
If people were completely honest many BIG12 schools such as Texas, Texas A&M and SMU in their heyday, usually always out spent the SEC in buying players. And they haven’t dominated College Football. So the logic appears to be, you can be dirtier than your neighbor but if you don’t win the majority of the championships your cheating isn’t as bad. It’s all moot now anyway, because the sport has become a no holds bar free for all. “Spend wildly and often or wither and die” should be the new NCAA motto.
My biggest concern with that line is Franklin and the administration are so laser focused on the wrong thing, facilities. He's also inviting meddling into the program.
Why would Alabama/boosters waste money on recruits? Kids are dying to go there anyway. Schools that are paying for recruits are more likely to be competitors of Alabama and Georgia.
Because money wins recruiting that’s why they’d pay. Kids would not be going to Bama if other schools were offering 6 figures and Bama was offering nothing.
Meet the bag man: 10 rules for paying college players
How to buy college football players, in the words of men who deliver the money.
www.bannersociety.com
First, I said I'm sure that it happens, so I'm not denying it. I just don't think it's as ubiquitous as people want to think.Meet the bag man: 10 rules for paying college players
How to buy college football players, in the words of men who deliver the money.
Second, I'm not really putting much stock in a "bannersociety.com" article interviewing an anonymous source.
I'm just spit-balling here, but maybe the "commitment" CJF got from Barbour was additional staffing to manage the program like an NFL franchise. Because that's what it will take to compete: more non-coaching staff and more money. There's only so much a shiny new locker room (and facilities) will do to entice game-winning recruits. Just ask Texas. Anyone with inside knowledge please sound off.
It's not a line about facilities per se, it's a line about how difficult it is for him to get anything done when it comes to changing the program. He's probably begging and going through a several month long bureaucratic process anytime he asks for money for anything... NIL, facilities, assistant salaries, more analysts, etc. Saban probably makes a phone call when he wants something and has an answer within days because the AD and President are all aboard the Bama football train.
I agree with the sentiment. But it might be the "right" thing should you want to win. Leave no doubt, money isn't free. Everything comes with a price attached to it.
Interesting posit. It could be because they are sanction shy. And who can blame them.
I don't have inside info, it's just my perception. It's also one of the reasons I think Brian Kelly likely went to LSU. There are a handful of programs where the entire administration, athletic and academic from the very top all the way down to the coaches, are all aligned that investing in the football program makes sense and they do what they can to support it. Meanwhile at PSU you have stories from Jay Paterno voting against football investments in BOT meetings because he was part of the days when the arms race was less important than it is now and because his dad won without such things. It's bad enough he votes against it but then he doubles down and takes it public by blogging about it. Parts of what he stated were true, some of it is keeping up with the Joneses and doesn't make financial sense, but that's the state of today's football. PSU needs to decide if they're in or out on bigtime football, the half-measures like paying top salary for the head coach but then fighting all the other stuff isn't going to work. While Franklin loses popularity for renegotiating every 2 years he's forcing PSU to make that decision, and considering he's still here it seems he's winning that negotiation more often than not. Again it might not be sound financially but it's good for the football program long term. You're also probably right that the sanctions instituted some bureaucracy that others don't have to deal with. We also don't have the big name donors making it known that they'll invest when important things are needed, at least not publicly.
I have yet to see any football project get voted down. So what if it wasn't unanimous between all 40 BOT members, everything has passed, and passed absurdly easy given the project amounts. I'm failing to see what Franklin is actually complaining about.
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