NCAA declines to add penalties for faking injuries in football.

Faustdog

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It's a hard thing to do correctly. Penalties wouldn't work. It would have to be something like requiring the player to sit out a certain amount of time, number of plays, etc.
 

patdog

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"It is very difficult to legislate ethics, particularly when an injury timeout is being used to gain an advantage," Shaw said in a statement. "The small number of teams that seem to use these tactics should be addressed directly. "

Well, this was your chance to address it and you didn't. It's a farce, and it's just going to get worse instead of better if you don't do anything about it.
 

thatsbaseball

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I agree. Over-the-top fake injuries really take something out of the game to me. It's just not what football is about.
 

ababyatemydingo

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That’s probably what’s going to end up happening and then they will do something about it.
 
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If there's not going to be any consequences, then join them. Kiffin runs an offense built on timing and speed of play. They can look for teams to start flopping after every play they run to slow down the pace of play, get correct subs in, and not let them run a play before the defense gets set and is ready. Kiffin will end up regretting starting that crap.

In a recent interview, Leach said he doesn’t like it at all and wishes there was a rule against it. He also added since there is not, it is smart for teams to take advantage of it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you see us do this a lot more next year.
 

ckDOG

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Time to start recruiting injury specialists.

A whole scholarship dedicated to a guy that subs in quickly to take a fall and nothing else.
 

coachnorm

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Oh goodie....more 4 hour games.


Sooner or later more 4 hour games will result lower viewership. 4 hour games mean more commercials rammed down our throats? Even in soccer, FIFA will allow post game penalties, because of video reviews, including suspensions for upcoming games. The flopping of players in the 6 yard box is a red card isn't it in soccer also? The NCAA will find a way to screw things up in this regard?
 

dog12

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It's a hard thing to do correctly. Penalties wouldn't work. It would have to be something like requiring the player to sit out a certain amount of time, number of plays, etc.

How about this?

Whenever an "injury" (real or fake) occurs, the team with the injured player is charged a timeout. (One of the 3 timeouts per half.)

This should prevent all fake injuries, because most teams want to save their timeouts.

If an "injury" happens when a team has no timeouts remaining, then that player has to sit out the remainder of the game.

Problem solved.
 

archdog

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If there's not going to be any consequences, then join them. Kiffin runs an offense built on timing and speed of play. They can look for teams to start flopping after every play they run to slow down the pace of play, get correct subs in, and not let them run a play before the defense gets set and is ready. Kiffin will end up regretting starting that crap.

First off, Kiffin didn't start it. Second, all teams do it... just some are better at it than others.
Kiffin just had zero shame when doing it. I hope the first SEC game they play next year, the opposing team does it every single play..... to prove a point.
 

archdog

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How about this?

Whenever an "injury" (real or fake) occurs, the team with the injured player is charged a timeout. (One of the 3 timeouts per half.)

This should prevent all fake injuries, because most teams want to save their timeouts.

If an "injury" happens when a team has no timeouts remaining, then that player has to sit out the remainder of the game.

Problem solved.

I don't like this approach, it penalizes the entire team when real injuries happen. My solution is the best, if you are injured, you cannot go back into the game until the next possession, Period. An agruement could be made for the rest of the quarter, but I like possession.
 

archdog

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In a recent interview, Leach said he doesn’t like it at all and wishes there was a rule against it. He also added since there is not, it is smart for teams to take advantage of it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you see us do this a lot more next year.

When we are getting worked over by an offense, we should flop every single play until they get out of sync. It is obviously the best tactic and gives you literally unlimited timeouts.
 

Faustdog

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I don't like this approach, it penalizes the entire team when real injuries happen. My solution is the best, if you are injured, you cannot go back into the game until the next possession, Period. An agruement could be made for the rest of the quarter, but I like possession.

This is the best answer, but it's still not perfect. It would encourage players to play through potentially serious injuries, and the NCAA has shown it isn't doing anything in this climate that could potentially impact player safety.
 

dog12

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I don't like this approach, it penalizes the entire team when real injuries happen. My solution is the best, if you are injured, you cannot go back into the game until the next possession, Period. An agruement could be made for the rest of the quarter, but I like possession.

Teams could still play the same kind of game with your solution.

For example, when a team gets hot, put in a walk-on as a substitute. And, before the snap, the substitute walk-on collapses. Injury time out. Substitute walk-on has to sit out the possession (or, the quarter).

Who cares? Teams will have plenty of walk-ons that can fake injuries.

Thus, your solution doesn't really solve the problem.