NCAA - what role should it play?

[blion72]

every Sat morn we get together with group at a local diner for breakfast and talk sports or whatever. today our MSU buddy talking NCAA suggests their role is dead and they should - hates them. everyone then jumps on the bandwagon and hammers the NCAA. We get one idea that they should just close down, and go away. Then the tide turned with a statement along the line of "well you still need some org managing college sports". By the time we were done, most of what the NCAA is doing and overseeing is what most of the group wanted them to do. The guy who started the topic finished by saying he didn't like that they were not stronger with enforcement - he thought that UNC should have been given probation for their academic scandal. My point was that PSU took the full brunt of NCAA punishment for what was not really a PSU or athletic responsibility. Final comment by our local HS coach was that he thought the NCAA is not enforcing because the schools do not want them to enforce anything - he noted that if Bama wants to have 100 scholarship players it is not clear anyone is going to stop them.

 

[91Joe95]

Bloated bureaucratic overhead - it's the only thing they are actually competent at.

 

[BobPSU92]

Bloated bureaucratic overhead - it's the only thing they are actually competent at.

Sounds like PSU.

 

[WVilleLion]

Enforcement, as they clearly do so in a timely, balanced, common sense, and fair manner.

 

[CvilleElksCoach]

It likely won’t exist in 2 years

 

[Midnighter]

every Sat morn we get together with group at a local diner for breakfast and talk sports or whatever. today our MSU buddy talking NCAA suggests their role is dead and they should - hates them. everyone then jumps on the bandwagon and hammers the NCAA. We get one idea that they should just close down, and go away. Then the tide turned with a statement along the line of "well you still need some org managing college sports". By the time we were done, most of what the NCAA is doing and overseeing is what most of the group wanted them to do. The guy who started the topic finished by saying he didn't like that they were not stronger with enforcement - he thought that UNC should have been given probation for their academic scandal. My point was that PSU took the full brunt of NCAA punishment for what was not really a PSU or athletic responsibility. Final comment by our local HS coach was that he thought the NCAA is not enforcing because the schools do not want them to enforce anything - he noted that if Bama wants to have 100 scholarship players it is not clear anyone is going to stop them.

Once academics are fully de-emphasized (as in, you don't need to maintain any kind of GPA or standing to play since football/basketball players will be defined differently at some point - employees, etc.) they're not necessary. They barely do whatever it is they're supposed to do now.

 

[NittPicker]

Right now the only thing the NCAA has control over is organizing a basketball tournament.

 

[GrimReaper]

Dead

 

[BobPSU92]

Once academics are fully de-emphasized (as in, you don't need to maintain any kind of GPA or standing to play since football/basketball players will be defined differently at some point - employees, etc.) they're not necessary. They barely do whatever it is they're supposed to do now.

 

[blion72]

Once academics are fully de-emphasized (as in, you don't need to maintain any kind of GPA or standing to play since football/basketball players will be defined differently at some point - employees, etc.) they're not necessary. They barely do whatever it is they're supposed to do now.

if we hit that point, then you are correct. the players in MBB and CFB will be employees of an entertainment company, and be paid by the company. possibly the players have a union. At that point, it would seem best managed by the NBA and NFL as a formal minor league. does the NCAA just disappear of does it continue with the schools that do not enter that space as having the "pro" teams? In our discussion we wound up going down this path, and getting into what happens to the schools that do not go down this path, and what happens to the other sports. do all sports just devolve to self-funded club programs, and your athletic department is minimalistic. there would be no more NCAA compliance staff, if there is no NCAA. for most schools this would reduce their financial loss, if they do not have to carry the burden of big time sports. March Madness would just be the big boy tournament for the "pro" teams, and then the rest of the schools that are maintaining teams tied to the schools.

 

[BobPSU92]

if we hit that point, then you are correct. the players in MBB and CFB will be employees of an entertainment company, and be paid by the company. possibly the players have a union. At that point, it would seem best managed by the NBA and NFL as a formal minor league. does the NCAA just disappear of does it continue with the schools that do not enter that space as having the "pro" teams? In our discussion we wound up going down this path, and getting into what happens to the schools that do not go down this path, and what happens to the other sports. do all sports just devolve to self-funded club programs, and your athletic department is minimalistic. there would be no more NCAA compliance staff, if there is no NCAA. for most schools this would reduce their financial loss, if they do not have to carry the burden of big time sports. March Madness would just be the big boy tournament for the "pro" teams, and then the rest of the schools that are maintaining teams tied to the schools.

Sandy laughs at minimalistic.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

Sandy laughs at minimalistic.

So does my wife