I get it, but to be fair, specifically scheduled Christmas Day NFL games are still fairly new and a lot of times those games were on ESPN or NFL Network, which require subscriptions.Something seems kinda 17'd up about traditionally free views now requiring subscriptions.
I'm sure I'm just an old fart.
It seems like it would be costly these days to run a traditional broadcast TV station compared to streaming. I wonder how revenue from say Hulu Live carrying local NBC affiliate programming trickles down to them and how long we will see OTA stuff exist? The cost of running and maintaining broadcast networks, antenna site, etc. can't be trivial.Something seems kinda 17'd up about traditionally free views now requiring subscriptions.
I'm sure I'm just an old fart.
Yeah, and before too long, that's why you'll be paying $25 a month to enjoy limited live content and a host of predominantly meh streaming programming.Netflix is taking things to the next level it seems...they'll have WWE soon and Dana said weeks back they are in early talks with Netflix to have a few of the UFC PPV's and series.
It’s not just you. It’s getting a little silly.Something seems kinda 17'd up about traditionally free views now requiring subscriptions.
I'm sure I'm just an old fart.
Big Business would love to get their hands on that spectrum. I imagine in about a decade they'll close it up and auction off the available spectrum, like they did with the switch to digital OTA.It seems like it would be costly these days to run a traditional broadcast TV station compared to streaming. I wonder how revenue from say Hulu Live carrying local NBC affiliate programming trickles down to them and how long we will see OTA stuff exist? The cost of running and maintaining broadcast networks, antenna site, etc. can't be trivial.
I get it, but to be fair, specifically scheduled Christmas Day NFL games are still fairly new and a lot of times those games were on ESPN or NFL Network, which require subscriptions.
Oh it’s absolutely the smart play. Theyre the king of sports in America by a huge margin. They can do whatever they want.Give the NFL credit - they’ve taken their TV inventory and divided it into smaller and smaller packages at a higher and higher rate per game. Takes some serious leverage to pull that off over an extended period.
This!I get it, but to be fair, specifically scheduled Christmas Day NFL games are still fairly new and a lot of times those games were on ESPN or NFL Network, which require subscriptions.
It was the Bills and the "Bills Mafia" as they are sometimes called, nearly lost their collective minds. The Bills are scheduled to play on Christmas Day this year.This!
Back in January there was a wild card or playoff game that streamed on Peacock and social media as well as some Legislators lost their minds. Threats of investigations, demands to see emails, promises of ending anti-trust exemptions, etc were all brought up.
...the game was free to watch on Peacock and for years there were already NFL games that were streaming only. It was bonkers to see people just ignore that and rage over the Peacock announcement.
I dont love how many games are spread out across multiple platforms, but I also havent loved how few NFL games have been available for people to watch on a given week. Blackouts are far worse and far less justifiable than if a few games stream each week.
I get a kick out of the Bills Mafia, and I'm sure they'd come in handy if you found yourself in a bar fight. But I'm not really taking these guy's opinion seriously:It was the Bills and the "Bills Mafia" as they are sometimes called, nearly lost their collective minds. The Bills are scheduled to play on Christmas Day this year.
You’re not wrong. I’ve never understood this simply because of the original pay per view. It no longer exists which is allowing for more viewership. Now this. At some point these dipshits are going to learn to leave well enough alone. “Change is good” is the biggest crock of ****. Eventually they’ll learn and put it back the way it was because their change isn’t working.Something seems kinda 17'd up about traditionally free views now requiring subscriptions.
I'm sure I'm just an old fart.
When was NFL's availability better "the way it was"?You’re not wrong. I’ve never understood this simply because of the original pay per view. It no longer exists which is allowing for more viewership. Now this. At some point these dipshits are going to learn to leave well enough alone. “Change is good” is the biggest crock of ****. Eventually they’ll learn and put it back the way it was because their change isn’t working.
You must’ve had a hard time as a kid understanding what leave it alone means.When was NFL's availability better "the way it was"?
When you had only 1 televised game each Sunday?
When you had only 2 televised games on a Sunday?
When they added the night game to make it 3 televised games on Sunday?
When the networks started running concurrent games so you had a max of 5 available games on Sunday?
When they added Monday Night Football?
When they added Thanksgiving Day games?
When they started the NFL Network and launched Thursday Night Football?
When they started putting two games on Monday nights?
When they created Sunday Ticket and charged more than a car payment?
When they started streaming games on Yahoo?
When they started streaming games on Twitter?
I mean... in my lifetime, there has never been a concrete media distribution for the NFL and, I don't hate the distribution as it is now. I feel like we have access to so many more games each week than we ever have without having to purchase an expensive cable package.
A lot of these games that are appearing on these streaming platforms would have been the 'also ran' that got pre-empted by local news because it ran against something like Cowboys-Chiefs at 3:25 p.m. on a Sunday afternoon and you'd have to have Sunday Ticket to see it. Now, those Titans-Jaguars games will at least be accessible to people outside of Tennessee and Florida.
That’s not true. I go to 4-5 games per year and pay nowhere near $377 for 200 level tickets. The AFC divisional round wasn’t even that much.Avg price of 1 single NFL game ticket: $377
NFL Sunday Ticket for all games: $349
any questions?
Maybe they’ll have the budget to stop canceling shows without conclusion.Netflix is taking things to the next level it seems...they'll have WWE soon and Dana said weeks back they are in early talks with Netflix to have a few of the UFC PPV's and series.
No, it's just that you can't actually identify at what point in history they should have 'left it alone'.You must’ve had a hard time as a kid understanding what leave it alone means.
I only watch the nfl for the saints and a little bit of Dallas. Now, if either team’s game is on stream, I won’t watch. The NFL is nothing like what I grew up on. It’s more sissyfied than anything. Hell, college football is almost there but atleast it’s way more enjoyable.No, it's just that you can't actually identify at what point in history they should have 'left it alone'.
I think you came in looking to get a cheap pop from the crowd here about the good old days, but you can't actually identify when those good old days were and why they were better. The cantankerous old man bit is kind of worn out here since we're all kind of old now.
You say things like "their change isn't working", but the NFL has never been more available, more popular, or more profitable.
I guess the averages in cities like SF throw off the nationwid averageThat’s not true. I go to 4-5 games per year and pay nowhere near $377 for 200 level tickets. The AFC divisional round wasn’t even that much.