Nick Saban announces Tony Mitchell suspension following recent arrest
Alabama head coach Nick Saban announced freshman defensive back Tony Mitchell has been suspended following his recent arrest.
Nick Saban: no such thing as being in the wrong place at the wrong time
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Nate Oats method of handling his players is slightly different 
It sure seems to be a shot at the Mitchell situation
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A search of the car revealed scales.......
SCALES???? This ain't the 80's no more men. These days you don't need scales. These days, just go straight for the extract / resin and a little dab 1/4 the the size of your pinky fingernail will send you to the moon. Rapidly.
Of course, maybe I just have good connections. Lol.
SCALES???? This ain't the 80's no more men. These days you don't need scales. These days, just go straight for the extract / resin and a little dab 1/4 the the size of your pinky fingernail will send you to the moon. Rapidly.
Of course, maybe I just have good connections. Lol.
It seems that's how most are interpreting it, especially since Oats said Mitchell was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Whether it's how he intended it or not, and I'm sure he will be asked, that is how it's being interpreted by most.
Maybe Saban is getting a little grumpy that the basketball team is stealing some football thunder.
Saban can spare one kid. If the basketball kid is suspended they probably aren't even in the tourney.
He was not along for the ride. He was the damn driver! He tried to evade police, going up to 141 MPH. This is in no way, shape, or form close to a "wrong place at the wrong time" deal. The fact that Saban is even mentioning it is a joke. He's trying to explain it away as being in the wrong place at the wrong time by also saying that's not an excuse. It's ridiculous. Mitchell was driving, and fled police when they tried to pull him over. He got up to 141 MPH trying to evade them. There was also a loaded gun between the console and driver's seat that was not his. The passenger denied it being his as well. He's a piece of garbage drug dealer....who will be back on the team in time for opening kickoff. Disgusting that people are just accepting this BS narrative that Saban is putting out there.
Wasn't Miller driving a car at a murder scene with a gun in his car he claimed was not his?
He was driving the car. The gun was not his. Per his lawyer, he did not know the other guy had left the gun in the car, he never saw it and never touched it. He left as soon as shooting started. Video evidence corroborates the above statements.
As it is, authorities have said numerous times there's nothing to charge him with. I know for some reason our fans desperately want him to be guilty of something, but he's not.
This is exactly right. Everyone wants to vilify him. He's not getting charged with anything. There was a text from the shooter to Miller to bring the shooter his gun. Miller states he was already in route to pick them up and didn't even see the text, and didn't know the gun was in the car. When he got there, the shooter came to the car and got the gun out, and within minutes started shooting. Does it suck that someone died? Yes. Does it suck for Miller that he was around when it happened? Yes. Is the person that did it getting charged with murder? Yes. Does any of this mean that Miller is responsible for it? No.
Saban acting like he's going to take some kind of moral high ground when he knows he's going to let a drug dealer back on his team is a farce. I don't think he was taking a shot at Oates. He's just setting the excuse up for him coming back in time for fall camp.
In situations like this there is always a rush to want to incriminate people who were only peripherally associated but not actually involved.
I know our fans love the narrative that police departments in towns for other SEC teams gladly overlook player crimes, but come on, does anyone really think they're going let a player off the hook for murder? Good grief.
“Tony Mitchell has been suspended from the team and all team activities until we gather more information on the situation and what his legal circumstance is,” Saban said.
I'm going to go out on limb here, somehow the Mitchell situation will clear up right around the beginning of fall practice or worse case scenario just before Sept 9th. (Inexplicably the Sept 2 game against MTSU, will not be pressing).
Or the kid(s) behind Mitchell are just as good, in that case "we can not tolerate this detrimental behavior effecting our team:
Oh that Nick, he's a real card.
I'm going to go out on limb here, somehow the Mitchell situation will clear up right around the beginning of fall practice or worse case scenario just before Sept 9th. (Inexplicably the Sept 2 game against MTSU, will not be pressing).
Or the kid(s) behind Mitchell are just as good, in that case "we can not tolerate this detrimental behavior effecting our team:
Oh that Nick, he's a real card.
Yeah, a March suspension doesn't really mean a lot. But that's all he can really do at this point. He did sound pretty pissed in his presser.
I don't know what the possible legal outcomes are. In Florida, fleeing police is a 3rd degree felony. Possession of marijuana with intent to sell is either 2nd or 3rd degree felony. If he gets any jail time, he's off the team, obviously. If he gets off light because of a first offense, it'll be interesting to how Nick plays it.
If true, that would speak poorly for Saban, although I prefer the way Saban handled his player issue. USC had those issues of coaches spatting with each other when Dietzel and Carlen were ADs. Coaches ideally should be supporting coaches of other sports at the school.
I still remember after Merrifield got that hit which won us the 2010 CWS, ESPN cut away to a press box shot of Spurrier and Staley cheering on the Yardcocks. And Beamer attended the final four in Minneapolis last spring.
I think the point Saban is making in using the phrase "wrong place at the wrong time" is to draw a comparison that Miller delivered the murder weapon to the scene and was there and yet no suspension at all by Oates. Not talking about criminal charges - just suspension, to teach young adults hard lessons. Pretty hard to say Miller wasn't involved, considering the gun came from the car he was driving!
So, the kid says he just went to pick up his boys and didn't even know the gun was in the car. You just going to call him a liar and suspend him anyway?? That's BS, and I wouldn't want my kid to play for a coach that didn't have his back.
Saban is looking out for Saban. He said that phrase to make people think that was the reality in Mitchell's situation. And it's not....at all. It's the reality of the guy that was in the passenger seat of Mitchell's car. But Mitchell is 100% the bad guy here. Saban needs everyone to think it was just wrong place, wrong time so when he comes back Saban can still claim he's a disciplinarian for suspending him in the first place. It's total nonsense.
In AL it is a felony to go 26+ over the speed limit. Mitchell was clocked at 141, which is 86 over the limit. Add another felony to the pile!
It has been concluded by all parties involved that Miller did, in fact, not deliver the murder weapon.
So, "I didn't know" or "it's not mine" are blanket excuses (defense cards) for anything in your car. Drug dealers are rejoicing!
If you can reasonably demonstrate that it's the case, then yes. Not even the police or DA believe he "delivered" the gun. That false narrative was debunked as quickly as it popped up online. Just because it was worded that way in an article headline doesn't mean it's true.
Ok, I'll try that next time someone pulls a gun out of my back seat.
Forget the legal jargon though, the non-suspension for being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people is what's baffling. Where is the coach as a teacher of men?
Ok, I'll try that next time someone pulls a gun out of my back seat.
Forget the legal jargon though, the non-suspension for being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people is what's baffling. Where is the coach as a teacher of men?
As a dad with 3 kids, I can assure you I pull things out our van all the time that neither me nor my wife have ever seen before.
You presume there is only one way to teach a lesson. I'd say the young man having his name dragged through the mud on national media and playing in front of crowds chanting "lock him up" is creating some teaching moments. In actuality, suspending him would be letting him off easy. Suspend him and all the noise goes away. As long he's playing, he's got to put up with the harassment.
I get your point and agree with you in principal on this. But getting suspended would have likely caused him to lose a crap ton of money. Plus, his actions, like having a teammate pat him down before going on the court, indicate that he's not too worried at all about the harassment. Having said all that, he shouldn't have been suspended and Oats did the right thing.
Yes, the patting down thing was juvenile and stupid. I certainly would have advised him against it, but when folks are unjustly calling you a murderer (as some were) I can somewhat understand the overreaction.
Disagree with the chanting "lock him up". No crimes charged. "Suspend him" would have been a more appropriate chant.
The only way to get his attention is deprive him of something he wants - playing time. Put him on the bench sitting right beside Coach Oates watching his teammates and you've got his attention. The pat down introduction indicates no one is taking it seriously, including Miller, his teammates and the coach.
What exactly are you teaching him a lesson on? The dude that pulled the trigger was also on the bball team.
For starters. Know who you're hanging out with and guilt by association is a real thing. Your friend's character can rub off on you so be aware of the character of those around you. Think before putting yourself in a potentially bad situation/place. Know your car and what's in it.
It sucks that Miller was hanging out with thugs with guns. College kids acting like out gansta culture sucks.
Neither you or I know anything about the other kid. Could have been a pretty good kid that drank a little too much and snapped. All I know is Oats had the shooter on scholarship. How are you going to tell Miller not to hang out with his teammates?
I agree, know what's in your car. Hardly something to suspend him over. It's a far reach.
Too much quasi-criminal stuff going on in some of these programs. It shouldn't happen with kids that have this much going for them. It needs to be squelched.
Tide's Oats: Not offended by Saban's comments
Alabama men's basketball coach Nate Oats said Thursday that he did not take football coach Nick Saban's "wrong place, wrong time" remark earlier this week as direct criticism.
www.espn.com
Since the AD and President were behind Oats handling of the situation, I'm sure a request was made of Saban to not put heat on Oats with his comments so Saban makes an obligatory appearance at BB practice.