Noon kickoff at Northwestern

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It‘s worse than that. It’s a noon kickoff for us, but 3:30 p.m. for northwestern. They get the extra sleep. b1g f*cks us in the a$$ again.
So, that means we will finish before them.

Good -then we can roll over and get some sleep. We have an early meeting.
 
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It‘s worse than that. It’s a noon kickoff for us, but 3:30 p.m. for northwestern. They get the extra sleep. b1g f*cks us in the a$$ again.
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Trojans are getting f*cked!
Colorado has played at some weird times - their TCU game at 11 AM local (and 130 degrees on the field-you would think they would push that to the evening for player safety, but TV dictates). Thier Nebby game was 10 AM local. Their Colorado State game was 8 pm local and finished past midnight.
 
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I was always under the impression these guys were getting up at the crack of Dawn every day to work out or practice.
 

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Could be worse.


It's 10 am MDT, so ain't no great bargain for Colorado either. Other than they've had a couple early games already, which should help.
But, really, if we thought TV/media big brains cared at all about the players....
 
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It's 10 am MDT, so ain't no great bargain for Colorado either. Other than they've had a couple early games already, which should help.
But, really, if we thought TV/media big brains cared at all about the players....
"Student athletes".
 
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It's 10 am MDT, so ain't no great bargain for Colorado either. Other than they've had a couple early games already, which should help.
But, really, if we thought TV/media big brains cared at all about the players....

Again, just to be clear: both Colorado and USC had to sign off on the starting time. So obviously it is on the media (FOX) for suggesting it in the first place, but it is the individual teams/schools that shoulder the "blame" for not caring about the student-athletes id that is your concern. Colorado/USC could have told them "no" and the game would have been at 3:30 ET.
 
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Again, just to be clear: both Colorado and USC had to sign off on the starting time. So obviously it is on the media (FOX) for suggesting it in the first place, but it is the individual teams/schools that shoulder the "blame" for not caring about the student-athletes id that is your concern. Colorado/USC could have told them "no" and the game would have been at 3:30 ET.
And just to clarify for you ;) , I wonder how much of a real choice they had. I've not seen that the 3:30 slot was the other choice offered. If it was, then shame on the schools for not opting for that, which would seem to be a common sense decision. That would be a head-scratcher for sure.
It may have been 'here's the deal to be seen in the high-exposure, highly coveted noon time slot; otherwise, we will air the game at 10pm ET, because we have other games at 3:30'. So, sure, they had the choice to say no, but I'm wondering if their hand was forced into the better of two not great choices.
 

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And just to clarify for you ;) , I wonder how much of a real choice they had. I've not seen that the 3:30 slot was the other choice offered. If it was, then shame on the schools for not opting for that, which would seem to be a common sense decision. That would be a head-scratcher for sure.
It may have been 'here's the deal to be seen in the high-exposure, highly coveted noon time slot; otherwise, we will air the game at 10pm ET, because we have other games at 3:30'. So, sure, they had the choice to say no, but I'm wondering if their hand was forced into the better of two not great choices.



The other time slot FOX was carrying that day was 3:30 PM and they put Michigan/Nebraska there. Since they took USC/Colorado as a game, if they didn't put it at 12:00 PM ET because USC refused, then it would have gone at 3:30 PM
 
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I don't want to hear anyone in the PSU football media landscape make any more mentions about the 11 AM kickoff time being a thing for Penn State. Our kids run on biological clocks set to EST. If there is any disadvantage, it's obviously (channeling my inner-Franklin) for the host teams we play against.
 

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The other time slot FOX was carrying that day was 3:30 PM and they put Michigan/Nebraska there. Since they took USC/Colorado as a game, if they didn't put it at 12:00 PM ET because USC refused, then it would have gone at 3:30 PM

Peeling it back another layer, was this PAC TV contract finalized as they were falling apart as a conference and needed to get something going? I think the negotiations were maybe so far slanted to the TV side that Fox or others could dictate whatever suited them, and the PAC needed to be happy with what they got. And in this case, since 330 was not available, they would have had a late night, smaller exposure, possibly non-major media outlet showing the game.

Yes, they agreed to the deal, but it was a little like negotiating a surrender when you're out of ammo. I just think the media took advantage of that and added these oddball clauses and conditions knowing the PAC had no choice but to smile and say 'thanks'. Maybe not, but it's a plausible scenario imo.
 
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Peeling it back another layer, was this PAC TV contract finalized as they were falling apart as a conference and needed to get something going? I think the negotiations were maybe so far slanted to the TV side that Fox or others could dictate whatever suited them, and the PAC needed to be happy with what they got. And in this case, since 330 was not available, they would have had a late night, smaller exposure, possibly non-major media outlet showing the game.

Yes, they agreed to the deal, but it was a little like negotiating a surrender when you're out of ammo. I just think the media took advantage of that and added these oddball clauses and conditions knowing the PAC had no choice but to smile and say 'thanks'. Maybe not, but it's a plausible scenario imo.
Huh? The current PAC-12 TV deal with ESPN and FOX was signed in 2012 and was a 12 year deal. Any game set to start before 11 AM local time for the game site is required to get permission from the teams playing and it’s written into the contract. The schools weren’t “forced” into taking this time - they decided it was in their best interest in terms of coverage to keep riding the Deion hype train and be in the top FOX slot.

If USC had declined to play the 12 ET game, it would have been scheduled at 3:30 instead and UM/Nebraska would have been played at noon ET.
 
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