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NittPicker

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Once someone paid to have the Empire State Building lit up in scarlet. That proves their domination. :oops:
 
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JerseyLion

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Rutgers was never going to dominate it. It brings the Big Ten more exposure. I doubt the Big Ten would be advertising in Yankee Stadium without Rutgers being in the conference.
 
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GrimReaper

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Rutgers was never going to dominate it. It brings the Big Ten more exposure. I doubt the Big Ten would be advertising in Yankee Stadium without Rutgers being in the conference.
Waste of money. NYC isn't a college football town. Listen to sports talk radio. College football is only metioned when betting lines are discussed. Never hear about it during the sports segments of TV newscasts.
 

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Waste of money. NYC isn't a college football town. Listen to sports talk radio. College football is only metioned when betting lines are discussed. Never hear about it during the sports segments of TV newscasts.
This. Nobody in NYC gives a rat's *** about Rutgers.
 

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Waste of money. NYC isn't a college football town. Listen to sports talk radio. College football is only metioned when betting lines are discussed. Never hear about it during the sports segments of TV newscasts.
at least after Francesa retired- he used to take time to trash Joe now and then
 
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Waste of money. NYC isn't a college football town. Listen to sports talk radio. College football is only metioned when betting lines are discussed. Never hear about it during the sports segments of TV newscasts.
It's not about whether anyone is watching....its all about the "footprint" and how much cable companies can charge subscribers......

Rutgres gives BTN NY metro area footprint. It's more dollars whether anyone watches or not....
 

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Once someone paid to have the Empire State Building lit up in scarlet. That proves their domination. :oops:
It’s actually free. Just saw a show on Cheddar about that. You just need to apply, and be accepted obviously.
 

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It's not about whether anyone is watching....its all about the "footprint" and how much cable companies can charge subscribers......

Rutgres gives BTN NY metro area footprint. It's more dollars whether anyone watches or not....
Bingo.
 
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GrimReaper

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It's not about whether anyone is watching....its all about the "footprint" and how much cable companies can charge subscribers......

Rutgres gives BTN NY metro area footprint. It's more dollars whether anyone watches or not....
Myth.

First, cable companies charge subscribers whatever they want. How much of the carriage fees that they pay to content providers such as BTN is a separate matter.

Second, Fox sells FS1, FS2, and BTN to cable companies as a package. Guess which element of the package is the cheapest.

Finally, while the BTN got better placement in the New York market channel line up of some cable companies, it didn't significantly boost the amount it pays to the conference, which is what counts.
 
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PSU87

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Myth.

First, cable companies charge subscribers whatever they want. How much of the carriage fees that they pay to content providers such as BTN is a separate matter.

Second, Fox sells FS1, FS2, and BTN to cable companies as a package. Guess which element of the package is the cheapest.

Finally, while the BTN got better placement in the New York market channel line up of some cable companies, it didn't significantly boost the amount it pays to the conference, which is what counts.
Well....recent articles that talked about the addition of USC and UCLA estimated in footprint user fees at $1 average and out of footprint at $0.39 average.
 

GrimReaper

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Well....recent articles that talked about the addition of USC and UCLA estimated in footprint user fees at $1 average and out of footprint at $0.39 average.
Whoever is writing those articles is pulling those numbers out of their asses. The number are ancient, been around since the BTN was first launched. When the network was still sold separately, Comcast paid less than the lower number across the board and it's likely that other larger cable companies paid similar carriage fees. The only cable companies that paid close to a dollar were small regional and local outfits.

Presently, no one has a good fix on the BTN carriage since it's primarily sold as part of a package. Fox and cable company execs have valuations they use for negotiating purposes, but they aren't disclosing those to the nattering nabobs.

When Rutgers and Maryland joined the conference, the money received from media rights barely budged. Hasn't changed since wrt BTN. All of the talk is about money coming from the over-the-air networks and potential streaming. BTN is an after thought. Look at it's ratings and you'll understand why.
 

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Waste of money. NYC isn't a college football town. Listen to sports talk radio. College football is only metioned when betting lines are discussed. Never hear about it during the sports segments of TV newscasts.
I live/work part-time in NYC - not a Rutgres town, not a college football town.
 

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NYC and LI were more Notre Dame than any other college team from what I remember. Made me hate ND all the more since very few, if any, were graduates.
 

Tom_PSU

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All you guys have it wrong. Just visit the Rutgers board and they will explain ad nauseam how them joining the BIG brought in millions of viewers and financially saved the conference from fiscal ruin.
 

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I live/work part-time in NYC - not a Rutgres town, not a college football town.
Outside of maybe LA , and that’s only when USC is rolling, I don’t feel like any major metropolitan areas of the U.S. are college football towns.
 
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Liontown

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Rutgers just fired their offensive coordinator. Won't matter, they'll still stink.
 

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Outside of maybe LA , and that’s only when USC is rolling, I don’t feel like any major metropolitan areas of the U.S. are college football towns.
Probably true. If there any I'd say Atlanta or Dallas might be.
 

Tom_PSU

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Outside of maybe LA , and that’s only when USC is rolling, I don’t feel like any major metropolitan areas of the U.S. are college football towns.
For sake of argument let’s call Pittsburgh a major metropolitan area, and Pitt a college football team. Yeah I guess you’re right.
 
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JerseyLion

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The funniest thing about the Rutgers board is how they talk about New York City being the draw of coming to Rutgers. NYC is at least a 40 minute train ride away from New Brunswick.
 
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PSU87

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The funniest thing about the Rutgers board is how they talk about New York City being the draw of coming to Rutgers. NYC is at least a 40 minute train ride away from New Brunswick.
Well....what other draw do they have?
 

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Myth.

First, cable companies charge subscribers whatever they want. How much of the carriage fees that they pay to content providers such as BTN is a separate matter.

Second, Fox sells FS1, FS2, and BTN to cable companies as a package. Guess which element of the package is the cheapest.

Finally, while the BTN got better placement in the New York market channel line up of some cable companies, it didn't significantly boost the amount it pays to the conference, which is what counts.

 

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This. Nobody in NYC gives a rat's *** about Rutgers.
I lived in New Jersey for 20 years. Nobody who lives in Jersey even cares about Rutgers football. Honestly can’t think of one time that somebody brought up the topic of Rutgers football other than to mock it.
 

Moogy

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A six year old article from Deadspin. Now there is a great source. LMAQ. Perfect example of a writer pulling **** out of his ***. Nick Martin is a masster.
Yes, it's 6 years old ... that's completely irrelevant to the point it's making - that it's not about how many people follow Rutgers ... it's about expanding the network's footprint. LMFAO. Or something. And if you have nothing better to add than randomly cursing at the source, maybe when you sober up you can actually attack the merits of the numbers he presents (without just saying "oh they're wrong!") and provide some data to back up your contentions. Or you could continue ranting like the drunk guy no one invited to the party about how you know more than people who actually know because you were once a customer service rep at Circuit City.
 
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GrimReaper

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Yes, it's 6 years old ... that's completely irrelevant to the point it's making - that it's not about how many people follow Rutgers ... it's about expanding the network's footprint. LMFAO. Or something. And if you have nothing better to add than randomly cursing at the source, maybe when you sober up you can actually attack the merits of the numbers he presents (without just saying "oh they're wrong!") and provide some data to back up your contentions. Or you could continue ranting like the drunk guy no one invited to the party about how you know more than people who actually know because you were once a customer service rep at Circuit City.
Simmer down, Spoogy, and read my lips: no large cable company pays anything close to a $1.00 carriage fee for the BTN and they never have. Check FranktheTank.
 

Moogy

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Simmer down, Spoogy, and read my lips: no large cable company pays anything close to a $1.00 carriage fee for the BTN and they never have. Check FranktheTank.
I'll stick to the facts, and you haven't presented any, as yet. If you have actual verifiable info that's different than that article, let's see it, GrimyRaper. Close your legs ... no one wants to read your lips.
 
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