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Since there seems to be a uniform belief that we need to replace Satterfield, it begs the question: who would we want to replace him? And a related question: who could we get to replace him?

A name I’ve seen thrown around is Garrett Riley.
 
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Also saw Dan Mullen mentioned, but I don't really want to go down the Florida retread path again, even for an assistant. And I doubt he'd be interested anyway.

As far as Riley, he'd be an absolute grand slam hire, but he'll probably be getting head coach offers soon, so I doubt he's a realistic get.
 
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Shannon Dawson, OC at Houston. Runs the same scheme as Heupel. Neal Brown, who is about to be fired at WV, would be another one in that same tree. Both would be attainable and come with a proven history.
 
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Good suggestions.

One thing's for sure: whoever the next OC is, it HAS to work. We've had 4 OCs since 2016. None has lasted more than 2 seasons (assuming Satterfield is canned).

Beamer is in a "can't fail" situation with this decision.
 
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Spurrier would be worth it just to watch his expressions on the sidelines. And you know he wouldn’t hesitate to make changes. Plus his name for recruiting. But I know there are better options long term.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Since there seems to be a uniform belief that we need to replace Satterfield, it begs the question: who would we want to replace him? And a related question: who could we get to replace him?

A name I’ve seen thrown around is Garrett Riley.
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Yes...I threw it around 2 years ago when we hired Beamer. We need an AR/PR guy to be able to compete. I think we can outfit it with our recruiting and get some Sidney Rices types mixed in with some McKinleys and Pharoah Coopers and actually have a chance in the SEC. It's all about the player.....not the measurables. Rice was too slow....and not also not quick enough (supposedly). McKinley was a HS QB - not a WR...and much too skinny and weak (supposedly)..P. Cooper was too slow, and too short (supposedly). I can go on and on ....the point is - you can stock a great system with great players that aren't all 5 stars and BEAT 5 star teams.
 
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What about Larry Fedora? I think he'd be a homerun pick for OC, but would he take the job? His last coaching job was HC of the New Orleans USFL team last year but has said he won't be back next year. I'm not sure how much that paid, but I think he'd be worth a 7-figure contract. I think the bigger question is whether he'd be willing to work for a HC with Beamer's resume.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Yep, couldn’t draw it up any better. He’s available now. Could make plans to get him plugged in for the bowl game practices (not counting my chickens before they hatch about Vandy) and get a head start on next season. Has a strong track record with offense.
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Like the idea of end of year pre-bowl replacement
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Yep, couldn’t draw it up any better. He’s available now. Could make plans to get him plugged in for the bowl game practices (not counting my chickens before they hatch about Vandy) and get a head start on next season. Has a strong track record with offense.
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Didn't he absolutley ignore tank in his loss to us last year? I thought I remembered talk of how it just made no sense.

I know he has a successful history, which is more than our current OC, but that one game bothered me. (I know it's one game)
 
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I think we should start with Harsin. He has a strong track record with offense. Offenses he's been associated with have scored:

As OC at Boise St.: 39, 41, 36, 42 and 45 ppg

As co-OC at Texas: 28 and 35 ppg

As HC at Ark St: 26

As HC at Boise St.: 39, 38, 33, 32, 35, 33 and 33 ppg

As HC at Auburn: 25 and 20 ppg

Now, obviously, it depends on if you consider the Auburn numbers an outlier and we never know the answer to the question of who was running the offense. He had Bobo as OC last year.

I don't know if he's a total home run hire (e.g. Garrett Riley), but he looks extremely solid and has a VERY strong track record with P5 offenses, in contrast with Satterfield who had almost no track record. I'm not sure we could get him, but I think we should try.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
I think we should start with Harsin. He has a strong track record with offense. Offenses he's been associated with have scored:

As OC at Boise St.: 39, 41, 36, 42 and 45 ppg

As co-OC at Texas: 28 and 35 ppg

As HC at Ark St: 26

As HC at Boise St.: 39, 38, 33, 32, 35, 33 and 33 ppg

As HC at Auburn: 25 and 20 ppg

Now, obviously, it depends on if you consider the Auburn numbers an outlier and we never know the answer to the question of who was running the offense. He had Bobo as OC last year.

I don't know if he's a total home run hire (e.g. Garrett Riley), but he looks extremely solid and has a VERY strong track record with P5 offenses, in contrast with Satterfield who had almost no track record. I'm not sure we could get him, but I think we should try.
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The only issue I see with Harsin is his personality - which is something that really rubbed the Auburn fans and athletic department staff the wrong way. Apparenltly he's not a bad dude, he just has a very odd personality that doesn't endear himself to anyone (which is why he had no support by anyone at the school). Even if it's not as bad as anyone says - I don't see him fitting into Beamer's culture. You can't have one of your top assistants not pushing the culture.
 
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The only issue I see with Harsin is his personality - which is something that really rubbed the Auburn fans and athletic department staff the wrong way. Apparenltly he's not a bad dude, he just has a very odd personality that doesn't endear himself to anyone (which is why he had no support by anyone at the school). Even if it's not as bad as anyone says - I don't see him fitting into Beamer's culture. You can't have one of your top assistants not pushing the culture.
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Yeah, I dunno, though, it's Auburn. I can't fault someone for not meshing with Auburn's boosters.

Players, for the most part, seemed ok with him.

www.theplainsman.com

Auburn football players voice their opinions of Bryan Harsin on social media - The Auburn Plainsman

As rumors circulate about head coach Bryan Harsin's future at Auburn, current and former players took to social media to express their opinions, either coming to his defense or voicing concerns about his actions as a coach.
www.theplainsman.com www.theplainsman.com

He's definitely not a Beamer type, but I like the one player who said "I don't need a friend, I need a coach."

As long as he's not a total prick, if he puts players in position to succeed, they'll be ok with him.

I don't know any of the behind the scenes though. Maybe he's an awful person. It's odd, though, that he coached at Boise State for so long with no issues. He goes to Auburn and suddenly his personality is an issue.
 
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yeah, lets hire the guy that took the ball out of Tank Bigsby hands so we were able to beat them last year...
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That was Bobo's call.

Even if it was on Harsin he has a 15+ year history of strong offenses. Even Spurrier made some boneheaded decisions here.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Good suggestions.

One thing's for sure: whoever the next OC is, it HAS to work. We've had 4 OCs since 2016. None has lasted more than 2 seasons (assuming Satterfield is canned).

Beamer is in a "can't fail" situation with this decision.
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The number of fired coaches this season suggests how difficult it is to hire winners.
 
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SC95 said:
The number of fired coaches this season suggests how difficult it is to hire winners.
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Yep. For sure. But we have installed a revolving door at the OC position. We haven't had any consistency there for years now. We simply have to get some success at that position.
 
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I don't think Harsin is a realistic suggestion at this point. The usual M.O. for coaches fired from major programs like Auburn is to get out of coaching for a year or so, take a studio analyst position, etc. If they do roll right into a coordinator position, it's likely going to be with a premier coach or situation. He might appear on the sideline as an OC with Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, etc. I don't usually sell our program short, but I just don't think Beamer will land a guy like Harsin in the immediate aftermath of his firing from Auburn.
 
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Uscg1984 said:
I don't think Harsin is a realistic suggestion at this point. The usual M.O. for coaches fired from major programs like Auburn is to get out of coaching for a year or so, take a studio analyst position, etc. If they do roll right into a coordinator position, it's likely going to be with a premier coach or situation. He might appear on the sideline as an OC with Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, etc. I don't usually sell our program short, but I just don't think Beamer will land a guy like Harsin in the immediate aftermath of his firing from Auburn.
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I don’t really think so either, but that’s where I’d start. Start at the top and work your way down.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Yeah, I dunno, though, it's Auburn. I can't fault someone for not meshing with Auburn's boosters.

Players, for the most part, seemed ok with him.

www.theplainsman.com

Auburn football players voice their opinions of Bryan Harsin on social media - The Auburn Plainsman

As rumors circulate about head coach Bryan Harsin's future at Auburn, current and former players took to social media to express their opinions, either coming to his defense or voicing concerns about his actions as a coach.
www.theplainsman.com www.theplainsman.com

He's definitely not a Beamer type, but I like the one player who said "I don't need a friend, I need a coach."

As long as he's not a total prick, if he puts players in position to succeed, they'll be ok with him.

I don't know any of the behind the scenes though. Maybe he's an awful person. It's odd, though, that he coached at Boise State for so long with no issues. He goes to Auburn and suddenly his personality is an issue.
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Let’s face it he never had a chance at Auburn. Those people were so pissed that he was the hire They started dogging him from day one. They were hoping he would fail so they could say they were right
 
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I hope Beamer/Tanner are already on this and don’t F’ it up again.
 
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Since the hangover from the offensive explosion against Vandy has officially subsided, I guess we can resume thinking about OC candidates.

I'm still in for Harsin.

Hopefully Shane consults his dad about making such moves.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Since the hangover from the offensive explosion against Vandy has officially subsided, I guess we can resume thinking about OC candidates.

I'm still in for Harsin.

Hopefully Shane consults his dad about making such moves.
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I'm hearing this is getting some traction. A key booster has reached out to Harsin to gauge interest.

Is what I hope to eventually hear is happening.
 
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who is calling the majority of plays at coastal, willy korn or newland issac?

"As the co-offensive coordinator in each of the last three seasons, Korn has helped the Chants go from 5-7 in 2019 to 11-1 in 2020 and 11-2 in 2021. In each of the past three seasons, the offense has also ranked in the top-10 nationally in all of FBS in multiple statistical categories."
 
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