OC hire: Connor Shaw talking about Dowell?
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Cocks fans, yall hearing anything about Dowell Loggains as your new OC?
Cocks fans, yall hearing anything about Dowell Loggains as your new OC? - Supposedly the Gamecocks plane was in NWA today. Loggains is the Hogs current TEs coach a
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Kurt Roper was Muschamp's first OC here. And I'm pretty certain Connor was high on Roper, who was at Cleveland the same time Connor was. I think Connor called Roper the best QB coach he ever had.
Roper? I think he might have.
I’d have to say, after all the buzz and talk, it would come across as a severely underwhelming hire to tab a TE coach from another program.
Here is my speculation. We aimed for Briles. He turned our offer into a big pay raise from Arkansas. Turned us down and then recommended Loggains, after coaching with him for two years. smh
Could be a hire of Satterfieldian proportions.
Actually, we will have to see. But here I see another coach whose experience is way greater than his achievement. That is true of Kitchens also - they are one in the same on paper.
It’s the Garnet Way. Can’t think of a better way to dampen enthusiasm and totally kill Bowl attendance and donations to the athletic dept. Great job!
Damn y’all. Put the shovels down at least until they hire someone ... then get em back out
Hopefully they are just testing fan awareness and approval and they put his name out as a "loss leader".
We didn't really expect a splash hire, correct? I certainly didn't. Beamer is not a splash hire type of guy based on hires to this point. That said, he's made some very good hires to this point. I'm confident if this is his choice, he'll be a good one.
I guess that's what we have to hope. I'd just like to be able to look at something in his background to get excited about.
I’ve always lived by the credo that hope is not a plan. I’ve also learned that you don’t let the inmates run the asylum. Just because players “love“ someone doesn’t mean they’re worth a ****. In fact, I’ve yet to see a successful “player’s coach.”
Shane had a great shot to make a splash hire and build momentum. He hired the guy who was 32/32 in 2020 in the NFL. Hoo boy, that motivates me to travel to games and contribute to the program.
I was hoping more for promoting a successful OC from a smaller school, someone with a history we could point to for optimism.
I guess this hire goes the "nfl experience" route, which can be sold to recruits.
Still hope this is the rumor floated so we can be excited when they announce the real hire.
But any recruit who looks this guy up is sure to see the "worst play caller in the NFL" that everyone else sees.
Who knows? Maybe he'll end up being fantastic. There's just nothing from his past to support that.
I suppose Beamer is hiring based on personality and fit more than credentials, which can be fine. But if you're hiring some for OC, there ought to be something from his past that shows he's capable of doing the job. Loggains may very well be a perfect fit personality-wise, but who cares if he can't call plays?
If I were a reporter, I'd ask Beamer "I under the aspect of being a personality fit for the team. However, based on Loggain's prior experience, what gives you confidence that he can be an effective OC at the collegiate level?"
Beamer has made mostly good hires, and seemingly has his own formula for what he believes will bring long term success. After the way we ended the season I say, Let the man do his thing. I hope it ends up being a great fit
Beamers one "bad" hire was a last second substitute when the current OC left. He's had time on this one, so hopefully he has good reasons.
I'm still kind of hoping this is just a rumor though.
I guess the one that gives me hope is Beamer is potentially staking his career as HC on this hire. He knows he has to get this one right. We can't be back at the OC hiring business in a couple years because this guy didn't work out. Obviously, whatever happened under Muschamp has nothing to do with Beamer, but we've installed a revolving door at the OC positions. At some point you've got to get continuity. And at some point we've got to get it right. I know Shane knows all this, so I can only hope he's really, really, really confident about this move if it takes place.
Agreed. Though, I think it was a mistake on his part to retain Bobo in the first place. Bobo had only been here for one season, so it wasn't a situation like retaining Cadillac Williams at Auburn. But I'm willing to chalk all that up to rookie mistakes. Satterfield was hired in a pinch, as you point out.
One other thing I thought about is, how much does he align his coaching style with his father’s? I know his father had a lot of success, and at least as far as bud foster is concerned, was able to maintain consistency in winning with defense and special teams. I don’t remember who his OC or coordinators were. Maybe his formula is similar, and feels like he doesn’t need Bill Walsh, but just a solid, loyal OC
That could certainly be part of it. A hire like Riley or Briles is obviously not a long-term solution, as they would both be on to bigger things after a couple seasons.
Losing a Coordinator who moves on because of success is not a big deal to me. That means he did good things here.
Yeah, I agree. I'm just noting that Beamer may not be interested in hiring someone who he KNOWS will be gone in a couple seasons in favor of someone who gives more long-term stability.
I see that, and i can understand the logic.
My personal reasoning is that oftentimes coordinators aren't long term positions. The good ones are looking for opportunities to move up.
I get the disdain for bringing in a new coordinator every year (ish) as a plug and play attempt to fix things. But I'm also not broken up by a guy coaching a couple years, doing well and moving on.
In this, I feel the coordinators spots are different from head coaching spots.
So let’s just hire a guy who couldn’t score over 20 points a game in the nfl…makes sense