Odds on Jackson Arnold coming…
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Better chance of getting Dillon Gabriel. Which would be fine with me. Arnold is the Oklahoma quarterback of the future and they’re not going to risk losing him to the portal for Gabriel playing one more season.
Honestly we shouldn’t pay a nickel in NIL funds to a RB
Arnold’s fate is directly intertwined with Taylor Gabriel’s. Gabriel has a 6th year in Norman if he wants it. If he returns, Arnold is going somewhere else. May not be MSU, but it will be somewhere.
Another option is that Venables encourages Gabriel to enter the portal as a grad transfer, to keep Arnold in the fold and hand him the reigns. In that case you might see Gabriel want to follow Lebby.
We’ll take whichever of Arnold and Gabriel OU let’s walk.
His dad refuted that statement but the story is Oklahoma will do whatever is necessary to keep Arnold. He will be handed the starting job next year. Gabriel will either go pro or follow Lebby
I agree but we should at least force OK to up pony up some more NIL for him. That'd be less they could spend on someone else.
I have some OU grad friends and they seem to think Gabriel will either go pro or follow Lebby.
Gabriel will move on. It's in the best interest for OU. He was there for Lebby.
Recruiting failures and he isn't even 12 hours in. Beautiful.
If we don’t get some decent O linemen in here, no QB will be successful. I hope our coach is aware of the deficiencies there.
I want to see General Booty at State.
His grandfather is an alumnus and football legend... and obviously, the jokes just write themselves.
We should bid the prices up on the top OL players to help deplete NIL funds at other schools. If we hit on a couple then good for us! Every time I think about wasted QBs at State I remember how good Kevin Fant was with a good OL and how he ran for his life without one and we lost games as a result.
This always amused me to hear people say this. It simply has to be a case of folks trying to force his recruiting ranking to match reality, which it just never did. Kevin Fant was never good. Like, at all. His career completion percentage was 53.2%, with a career AY/A average of 5.0. In more simple terms, he barely completed half his passes even though they only traveled 5 yards down the field on average. That’s atrocious QB play under just about any circumstances. Can’t just blame that on the OL.
Did he have some bad OL play? More often than not. But it wasn’t the worst I’ve seen at MSU. Was probably better than it was during many of the Croom years, during Mullen’s 2011 season, and Leach’s 2020 season. But even Relf and freshmen Will Rogers had better passing numbers than Fant. Hell, even Tyson Lee in 2008 under Croom had a higher passer rating than Fant’s career rating.
I think he had some measurables, and maybe could have been better if he had more refined coaching at both the HS and college levels, but I don’t think he ever got either one.
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Kevin Fant had the talent. Unfortunately, he played on Jackie Sherrill's worst teams. When he had time to throw the ball he impressed. It was cringe worthy watching Fant trying to complete passes with a defender hanging on most of his career or worse being blindsided. He was one of the bright spots on 3 terrible teams that lead to Jackie's firing.
I don't grade a QB simply by statistics. Fant tried to do too much to win games which lead to the statistics you quoted. I went to every home game and watched him try to complete passes before getting his clock cleaned. He was a tough QB with a strong arm but played on some terrible teams. If he had played for a team with a good OL he would have been drafted.
I don't grade a QB simply by statistics. Fant tried to do too much to win games which lead to the statistics you quoted. I went to every home game and watched him try to complete passes before getting his clock cleaned. He was a tough QB with a strong arm but played on some terrible teams. If he had played for a team with a good OL he would have been drafted.
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