Add 20M for the roster, which will be in house next year. 57M. Plus whatever the collective paid for other sports.
You tell me how non-revenue sports survive.
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Add 20M for the roster, which will be in house next year. 57M. Plus whatever the collective paid for other sports.
You tell me how non-revenue sports survive.
Maybe their next enrollment pays for it. What about the rest of us non-champions.
Article makes it seem like the loss of a regular season home game (played 6 instead of 7) had a big impact on revenue as well as the buyout paid to a previous men's basketball coach.
From what I have also read, the football program still made money as did the Men's basketball program. Everything else operated at a massive loss, so same old same old.
From what I have also read, the football program still made money as did the Men's basketball program. Everything else operated at a massive loss, so same old same old.
Ohio State has more money than Saudi Arabia. Doesnt matter. They are like Texas
Still pretty telling. That’s a lot of money coming from donors and endowment or whatever.
Again, what’s the verdict for everyone else, if tOSU is struggling that bad? And will ours or their alumni keep it up indefinitely?
D-1 Men’s soccer voted to leave the NCAA and become semi pro within the USL structure. Still in the works but the coaches voted for it at the winter meetings.
I’m so lost on this NIL bs. Do I think the players deserved some more money? Yes, especially after seeing mid major coaches getting multi million dollar deals. However, I think this system falls apart really quick. I’d like to see someone build a team with loyalty. Navy and Army don’t have much choice, but those guys overcome skill deficits with superb execution and discipline. Is that the model State should strive for with our smaller NIL budget in a cutthroat conf? Should we focus on the 3 star guys we anticipate hanging around for 3-4 years?
again, I don’t know jack about this NIL and transfer business, but it seems to me that we’ll go broke trying to compete with the SEC blue bloods. So, maybe we follow a different model and incentivize loyalty in hopes of producing a tight-knit team. Maybe it pays off… hell, it can’t be any worse than 2 wins/year.
again, I don’t know jack about this NIL and transfer business, but it seems to me that we’ll go broke trying to compete with the SEC blue bloods. So, maybe we follow a different model and incentivize loyalty in hopes of producing a tight-knit team. Maybe it pays off… hell, it can’t be any worse than 2 wins/year.
Not quite. As of now it's most of the ACC and Big Ten coaches. Some other random schools thrown. Kentucky for instance will be one of them. There is significant push back from small d1 programs. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. For many reasons. One being they tried to bring a season calendar that matches an actual soccer schedule to the NCAA, but COVID shut the world down. Then they tried to table it with one of the NCAA committees and it was voted down. Another being right now men's soccer is pretty useless for anyone wanting to play past college. Many college players are only making it to the USL or MLS Next Pro. If you want college soccer to be a viable pathway, something has to change. So this proposal is hoping to do that. Lastly it'll be interesting to see if they breakaway, if the big programs in football and basketball try to do the same. As for non-revenue sports, one of my good friends just left a d1 job as a head coach at a small school to go be an assistant at a power five. According to him "the writing is on the wall that our program won't be around in five years".
SMU raised 100 million in five days from donors. Won’t be a problem for OSU.
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My further concern is that state governments start picking winners and losers. I could see a scenario where a MS school (let’s say MSU) has 3-4 years of solid football, basketball, and baseball teams, and before you know it , the crew down in Jackson thinks dumping money in Oktibbeha county will payoff in more tourism, business, population growth etc. That’s great if you are a state fan and/or live in that area, but what if it was the UM that got the nod?
let’s face it, many on this board say we have too many schools for such a small state. The future decision makers may say we have too many power programs. It’s a scary thought.
Buckeyes might have an extra $13 million available soon.
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The red state college that blows $13M on DEI and fighting 'whiteness'
This school's diversity, equity, and inclusion department is so bloated that its salaries alone would cover full tuition costs for 1,000 in-state students at its main campus.
There are probably more than a few college football diehards who'd accept someone like Osama Bin Laden as a major donor if it got their team into the playoffs.
I just don't see this sheet show being able to last for very long. At the very least I felt it would mean a separation of a few Haves to the rest of us "have nots" and a creation of some sort of "premiere" league, but when an Ohio State is having issues, college sports is screwed.
I think you’re on to something in that we do need to think outside the box and not play the same damn game as Bama and LSU. We know who will win that contest just about every time. Need to be savvy and find something that works for us.
I don't know why people keep saying this. I actually DON'T think they deserved money (outside of true NIL - which should have been changed in 1987). I think there should have been checks put on other things.
Ryan Fowler said Alabama lost money in every sport last year but Football and basketball. Fowler said Byrne said.... he foresees schools cutting non-revenue sports to trim the budget.
I, myself, especially see this happening with current legal opinions of the DOE on revenue share in regards to Title IX. Schools will cut the expense of the non-revs and use the revenue payouts saved to pay more to remaining sports.
My thoughts are I don't see how G5 programs survive this. If a small revenue school isn't in the sec and B1G to receive a fat tv check, I can't see your rev being able to cover this every year. With that said, I haven't did a deep into the Finanicals of any of these schools to see how much bloat there is in the budget.
for example, how many schools can cut out "analysts" or the tutors or smoothe bar or the internet subscription, PS4 and Netflix etc at the practice facility??? I doubt G5s have any of those expenses.
I, myself, especially see this happening with current legal opinions of the DOE on revenue share in regards to Title IX. Schools will cut the expense of the non-revs and use the revenue payouts saved to pay more to remaining sports.
My thoughts are I don't see how G5 programs survive this. If a small revenue school isn't in the sec and B1G to receive a fat tv check, I can't see your rev being able to cover this every year. With that said, I haven't did a deep into the Finanicals of any of these schools to see how much bloat there is in the budget.
for example, how many schools can cut out "analysts" or the tutors or smoothe bar or the internet subscription, PS4 and Netflix etc at the practice facility??? I doubt G5s have any of those expenses.
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To my understanding, you don't HAVE to pay the 20.5M or 22M to players if you don't want to. It's just that you now can, and TV revenue is much easier to stomach than fleecing your donors every year. You'll definitely end up getting the bottom tier of players though. And they'll always just be a feeder for schools with more money, all the way up the chain. That's how you get around this. And desperate players will still come and play for you and get a scholarship, so your football will survive. But they may choose to kill non-revenue sports as well, and give their smaller revenue to football. Choice every school has to make I suppose.
Of course, smaller P4 schools like MSU will, by proxy, be forced to pay the max rev share amount.
What is the fully loaded cost of a scholarship athlete at State (not considering NIL)? $50k/year? $70k/year? Maybe schools will actually reduce roster #s to make this work. Honestly, you don’t need 105 players on a football team. I’m sure 70 would be just fine.
Rosters are too big anyway IMO.
Rosters are too big anyway IMO.
Well this is true. At that point it comes down How many quality players are left over once the P4 offers are allocated? Will a player that doesn't have a p4 rev share offer, go to USM or uab or Tulane for much less pay? Will it be the same as it always was, as players selected schools based on prowess anyways.
Mississippi State needs to cut as many sports as the sec will allow (if any). So as to allocate more funds to football, basketball and baseball.
Ooof. How much do the smaller sports REALLY cost? They sure do add a lot to the school culture. Campus would be a boring place without the soccer, volleyball, softball games. Not sure if you were lumping band and cheer squads into this. We need to not make such rash decisions in the HOPE that we can compete in 1 or 2 sports. Because, we still won’t stand toe to toe financially with Bama, LSU, Tenn, Aub, etc.
NFL rosters are 53 with 16 practice squad players that can be called up or signed elsewhere. That is 69, but they also can trade, pick up other practice squad players, or sign free agents during the season as needed. Colleges don't have that ability other than walk ons enrolled at the university. 85 schollys give you close to 4 deep at every position with your walk ons filling in for injuries, grade casualties, or discipline issues. Also, some of the 85 will be redshirts that aren't ready to play just yet or medical redshirt situations.
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