Ok, I give up. Could someone explain to me what "NIL" is?

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I have been watching CFB seriously for 40 years now. (age 1-10 doesn't count) I have been quoted as saying "I live for college football season." - That statement is very valid. I knew about the transfer portal. I knew about the rule change saying if you transferred you'd have to sit a year being changed to you could play right away without sitting. Somewhere / somehow I completely missed the memo about "NIL" and what it means and how it came about, etc...

I keep seeing people talking about it and I wonder how I have no clue what it is.
 
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Started with a lawsuit claiming schools were making money off players while they got nothing in return. Was supposed to allow players to be paid for the use of their name, image, or likeness. Schools themselves are not supposed to be part of funding or funding NIL.

What it has become is a way to legally buy players. The illegal part is when a player is contacted about transferring Am and offered NIL money. Everyone knows it is happening, but is supposedly helping through the use of third party people.

Even Drake Maye had a comment that if they didn’t get a handle in it, college football is screwed.
 
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Prior to “collectives” sponsored by the school, I saw nothing wrong with it. For example, I have no problem with Bryce Young being in the Heisman House commercials. It’s not coming from an Alabama booster. He deserves that opportunity.

But the collectives create a massive gray area for ethical lines to be crossed.
 
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It is basically a cluster muck that the weasel dicks in the NCAAA can take credit for by not getting out in front of it to keep it from being as crappy as it currently is. Do the players deserve money for their name, image and likeness? Yes. Is 6 and 7 figures too much? Hell yes. Is the transfer portal just as bad? Damn straight it is. What the hell does the NCAA even exist for?
 
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It is basically a cluster muck that the weasel dicks in the NCAAA can take credit for by not getting out in front of it to keep it from being as crappy as it currently is. Do the players deserve money for their name, image and likeness? Yes. Is 6 and 7 figures too much? Hell yes. Is the transfer portal just as bad? Damn straight it is. What the hell does the NCAA even exist for?
How would you have liked them to get in front of it?
 
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How would you have liked them to get in front of it?
Maybe have some rules of some kind in place instead of letting everyone do anything that they want to. Years ago, they could have offered stipends like Spurrier suggested way back when and avoided all of this to start with. Anything would pretty much been better than not doing a damn thing! They also could have made the transfer portal have a limit of some kind instead of being able to transfer just any old time you want and as many times as you like. Those are just off the top of my head without thinking a whole lot. I am sure there are much better ways but I don't get paid to think for the NCAA so that is all you get.
 
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Prior to “collectives” sponsored by the school, I saw nothing wrong with it. For example, I have no problem with Bryce Young being in the Heisman House commercials. It’s not coming from an Alabama booster. He deserves that opportunity.

But the collectives create a massive gray area for ethical lines to be crossed.
The collectives aren’t affiliate with the school other than that’s who the collective pulls for and their resources go to that choice school’s players.
Maybe have some rules of some kind in place instead of letting everyone do anything that they want to. Years ago, they could have offered stipends like Spurrier suggested way back when and avoided all of this to start with. Anything would pretty much been better than not doing a damn thing! They also could have made the transfer portal have a limit of some kind instead of being able to transfer just any old time you want and as many times as you like. Those are just off the top of my head without thinking a whole lot. I am sure there are much better ways but I don't get paid to think for the NCAA so that is all you get.

Supreme Court said as long as they are not employed by the ncaa, they can not govern nil. It would have always come to that. The ncaa hands are tied when it comes to nil period. Now transferring they can do what they want.
 
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NIL = Name, Image and Likeness. Recent court rulings have decided that NCAA can not prohibit student athletes from profiting from their name, image and likeness, nor can the NCAA or it's institutions profit off the name image or likeness of any student-athlete without the student-athlete's consent. One could argue that by the school allowing the student athlete to play there under said terms they are consenting, but apparently court decided that wasn't good enough. Anyway it's a way to appease those that complain about not paying college athletes without having to directly pay them a wage or salary so that apprenticeship programs for normal businesses aren't effected, since no one wants to pay an advertising deal to Billy Bob the intern down at the attorney's office.
 
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NIL = Name, Image and Likeness. Recent court rulings have decided that NCAA can not prohibit student athletes from profiting from their name, image and likeness, nor can the NCAA or it's institutions profit off the name image or likeness of any student-athlete without the student-athlete's consent. One could argue that by the school allowing the student athlete to play there under said terms they are consenting, but apparently court decided that wasn't good enough. Anyway it's a way to appease those that complain about not paying college athletes without having to directly pay them a wage or salary so that apprenticeship programs for normal businesses aren't effected, since no one wants to pay an advertising deal to Billy Bob the intern down at the attorney's office.
Personally I agree with the court. Not reimbursing college athletes for their NIL worth while robbing them of that opportunity is wrong. Anyone in a business setting as player would agree. It’s double dipping. I am glad the Supreme Court ruled like they did. NIL would be fine if you got transferring control.
 

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Personally I agree with the court. Not reimbursing college athletes for their NIL worth while robbing them of that opportunity is wrong. Anyone in a business setting as player would agree. It’s double dipping. I am glad the Supreme Court ruled like they did. NIL would be fine if you got transferring control.
They have to find a way to have NIL not end up at a handful of teams. Otherwise, there will be @ 90 % of teams that know there’s no chance of ever - having a chance
 
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They have to find a way to have NIL not end up at a handful of teams. Otherwise, there will be @ 90 % of teams that know there’s no chance of ever - having a chance

It’s already like that. However I will leave you with this. Good luck with that. The Supreme Court has ruled. They effectively can’t touch nil. Even if they did they would end up right back in court and likely lose.
 

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Supreme Court said as long as they are not employed by the ncaa, they can not govern nil. It would have always come to that. The ncaa hands are tied when it comes to nil period. Now transferring they can do what they want.
Bingo. NCAAs hand are tied on the NIL. They have proposed rules and regulations regarding the schools' involvement and limited that greatly....but that has absolutely nothing to do with the student-athletes.