One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

[Goat Holder]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

and like I said, we're not really in a position to complain, because Croom has really stacked us up in the trenches with quality players, which is most important. But what do you have to do to get some speed around here? That's the big difference in us and say, Auburn and LSU. Their guys are just a little bigger or little faster or both.

****, we have size too. But how many burners have we missed on? Jamere Holland, PPL, Terry Grant and the guy behind him at Lumberton, etc. And we will probably lose Tracey Lampley to Auburn. Hopefully Oneal Wilder will be a solution to some of this problem.

 

[Goat Holder]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

and like I said, we're not really in a position to complain, because Croom has really stacked us up in the trenches with quality players, which is most important. But what do you have to do to get some speed around here? That's the big difference in us and say, Auburn and LSU. Their guys are just a little bigger or little faster or both.

****, we have size too. But how many burners have we missed on? Jamere Holland, PPL, Terry Grant and the guy behind him at Lumberton, etc. And we will probably lose Tracey Lampley to Auburn. Hopefully Oneal Wilder will be a solution to some of this problem.

 

[Coach34]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

its easier to get linemen without improper benefits than it is skill players

 

[Shmuley]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

has a lot to prove. He's a blazer, but he's too damn small to run behind an average to slightly above average line. That's what Bama's OL is - slightly above average (even with an All-American). With the loss of Brown, State has at best an average line. Grant would be only somewhat better than an Izell McGill behind this line. Gotta have buses like AD and Ducre to get it done.

 

[lanceharbor7]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

The DB's are all fast. The LB's are SEC fast. The WR's could use a speed upgrade, but the RB's have been upgraded. Mabye DE.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

"I was trying to find the holes, but they were playing faster than us," said Smith, who had 35 carries and said he will return as a senior.</p>

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/collegesports/2004099244_bowls30.html

 

[RobbieRandolph]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

 

[olemissbydamn]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

nm

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

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[RebelBruiser]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

its easier to get linemen without improper benefits than it is skill players

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I disagree. I think true blue chip DTs are probably the most expensive prospects, if you're talking about players being for sale. Speed burners are a dime a dozen in comparison to finding 6'4, 320 pound guys that can move.

 

[patdog]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

nm

 

[Coach34]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

Bammer offered Dontae Walker 300K

 

[RebelBruiser]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

and I've always heard that there are two types of players that are really expensive in college sports:

1) really good DTs
2) a big time big man on the basketball court

From what I've seen, we've never been able to land either of those things at our school, unless they couldn't read. So for that, I tend to believe that adage to be the truth. We can cheat all we want, but we still won't be able to afford to cheat to the level of the big boys, which means no true big time DTs or basketball centers.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

 

[Todd4State]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

Pegues, Anthony Johnson, Wilder, Elliott, Burks, Riley, etc?

I don't know their 40 times by heart, but they weren't exactly slow.

Then you have guys like AD who may not be all that fast because of his size, but he is one heck of an athlete, and if he ever gets in the open field, he can turn on the burners.

I'll tell you what has boggled my mind about Croom's recruiting is the lack of recruiting a WCO type QB for years and sticking with Henig. I think Carroll can run it, and I think Russell can probably run it, but when you run the WCO, QB should be priority #1. I'm not saying that we even necessarily need a bluechip, but just a QB who's smart, accurate, takes care of the ball, and can move around a little bit- like Carroll. That and the lack of quality WR's, which should be tied for #2 with a quality RB. I mean, we have a freakin' walk-on and a transfer from Morehead State as our top five WR's.

But, I think we have done reasonably well at recruiting all of the other positions under Croom. I do think that Croom is going to try to solve the QB and WR issues this year, but I have to wonder why he didn't do this before.</p>

 

[Todd4State]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

weed in Starkville- or so we told Dontae.</p>

 

[Goat Holder]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

nm

 

[Coach34]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

"did you get this in writing? How do you know WHAT Bama will give you after you sign? Its all talk...you need to go to State" Not sure what we gave him, but it wasnt 300K

 

[TR.sixpack]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

 

[MrHooch]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

All-you-can-eat at the foodcourt, apparently.*

Winner!

 

[engineerdog]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

In the same sentence where Smith said we were playing fast, he said he was returning for his senior season. I wouldn't believe everything he says.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

In the same sentence where Smith said we were playing fast, he said he was returning for his senior season. I wouldn't believe everything he says.

1. Smith gained over 100 yds vs. MSU in that bowl. Why would a guy who gained over 100 yds be lying about the speed of the other team? He could have said "We got beat by a slower team...my 100+ yd. game is proof" & everybody would have believed him.

2. Seldom does a good college player declare for the NFL right after a bowl game. That's bad manners & makes the university & coach look bad (not to mention the player).

3. This board is all about: "It's not that State did some things right; the other team do some things wrong." That's why this thread is here in the 1st place: It's not that State has speed (which they don't according to the person who started this thread); it's just that the faster & better coached teams State beat last season didn't play to their potential on the day they played State. Coach34 is the master of this type bait & switch.

When you can come to this board & twist everything into: "It's not that State played good last Saturday; the other team just played bad"...by using this line of ******** reasoning, you can then dismiss everything State does that is positive. Like I said, Coach 34 is the master of this.

Lastly, from what I say last year, only the top teams in the SEC had more speed than MSU (especially on defense). Outside this board, that would explain the 8 win season. But within the confines of this board, it just means a lot of teams (like Auburn, KY, Bama, etc) just screwed up against a slow, badly coached MSU on gameday.

 

[engineerdog]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

It is a mix of irony and sarcasm. Sorry.</p>

 

[TBonewannabe]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

That is not equal to LSU or Florida but our defense can hang with most SEC teams. Our receivers are still around CUSA quality. We still have the worst receivers in the conference. This recruiting class Croom is putting together now might possibly remedy that if he can get some of the receivers he is in on. When Russell gets here we will finally have a SEC QB. Carrol seems to be a good surprise. He has that it factor and is very smart with the football. If he had the arm strength and was 6'4", he would have a chance at the NFL.
Our Oline is finally average SEC. Not great but servicable. RBs maybe a little above average for the SEC. The one thing Croom can coach is RB. I just wish he could get someone to teach WR to catch. I don't understand why MSU has never had a group of WR that could catch. I realize we have one every now and then like Kevin Prentiss, Eric Moulds, that catches and can run but for the majority, wide open they drop half. This goes back to Sherrill also. </p>

 

[Maroon Eagle]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

...having seen more than a few USM football games, I'd rate CUSA receivers to be better than MSU's mostly because a lot of teams use passing oriented offenses such as the spread and run and shoot.

MSU's receiving corps is closer to Sun Belt quality.

 

[TBonewannabe]

One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......

It still amazes me the difference in our receivers and the bottom of the SEC. You look at every other SEC team and our best receiver, Smith, might not even be in a receiver rotation at ANY sec school. That is pathetic when you consider UM going 0-8 and Vandy, UK, Ark. It is bad that most other schools' receivers if they are wide open, it is just expected they catch it. Ours I am still praying they catch it like I did when John Michael Marlin is kicking extra points.