OT: 17 The Cybertruck and all the other EV's

[PooPopsBaldHead]

They are all for the birds. The mother17ing Scout is here.
Classic retro looks
Lots of tech, but real buttons and knobs
EV power, torque, and ride
Gas for extended range when you need it

Not sure if it's going to be worth a shìt, but they are doing and saying all the right things. 12"+ of ground clearance, body on frame construction, mechanical lockers front and rear. 1,000+ lbs of torque... Solid axels... 350 miles of EV range and a gas powered range extender that charges the battery when needed for over 500 miles of range. And a reasonable price point, comparatively speaking.

Some of those old Scouts were the coolest vehicle designs ever made and this sucker may fall apart on the ride home, but it will look damn good doing it.







And they have a truck too... 5-1/2' bed for scale.




Really interesting to use gas/ice the way they are... I always thought the plug in hybrid was the way to go , but adding a fuel tank with a generator is probably much more cost/space efficient.

Where I live, pure EVs are limited by the sheer distance between places where you could put the infrastructure in for fast chargers. But gas stations can be anywhere and the ability to go 150 extra miles with gas is huge if necessary.

ETA. Volkswagen is the investor, but building a new factory in Columbia SC where they'll all be made by a new US led team.

 

[WilCoDawg]

It’s funny that they name it “Scout” yet it looks like the Scout ii. At least they used the original script. I‘m sure they’ll eventually use the “Scout ii” emblem on down the line.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

It’s funny that they name it “Scout” yet it looks like the Scout ii. At least they used the original script. I‘m sure they’ll eventually use the “Scout ii” emblem on down the line.

I doubt it. I don't ever hear anyone say I got a Scout ii. We just say "look at that badáss old Scout" even though most I see on the roads are actually Scout ii Travellers. Just cleaner branding to say Scout and only a few old farts like us will even know there ever was a Scout ii.

The SUV model is called the Traveller and the truck is the Terra. The generator is called the Harvester which is interesting. So I guess they just bought the names from International who probably just had them laying in an old foot licker collecting dust.

The reality is it's basically another Rivian type start up, but I think it's smart marketing to scoop up an old brand a nostalgic design that gets someone like me way more intrigued that Rivian ever will.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

1. Today I learned the Volkswagen makes Scout

2. Haaarrrddd pass.

 

[ckDOG]

I think RAM is trying this setup out as well. Curious to see how practical it will be for towing. I'm definitely going to pay attention. Would love to have a truck that is an EV daily but can tow the camper realistically a few hundred miles without hours long charging stops.

 

[Crazy Cotton]

I doubt it. I don't ever hear anyone say I got a Scout ii. We just say "look at that badáss old Scout" even though most I see on the roads are actually Scout ii Travellers. Just cleaner branding to say Scout and only a few old farts like us will even know there ever was a Scout ii.

The SUV model is called the Traveller and the truck is the Terra. The generator is called the Harvester which is interesting. So I guess they just bought the names from International who probably just had them laying in an old foot licker collecting dust.

The reality is it's basically another Rivian type start up, but I think it's smart marketing to scoop up an old brand a nostalgic design that gets someone like me way more intrigued that Rivian ever will.

I had one of the original ones, a 1968 with the 318 V8. No power steering, no power brakes, everything in the cab was made of painted metal. That thing was basically a farm implement. One of my biggest regrets was selling that thing.

 

[WilCoDawg]

I had one of the original ones, a 1968 with the 318 V8. No power steering, no power brakes, everything in the cab was made of painted metal. That thing was basically a farm implement. One of my biggest regrets was selling that thing.

That’s what they were originally purposed for. Then people started having a good time in them and they took off. That’s when Ford decided to make the Bronco so it could cash in on that market. IH really dropped the ball on them bc it really had a cool thing going.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

That thing was basically a farm implement.

My wife has wanted a Scout her whole life. She learned to drive on her grandfather's farm in an old scout that hadn't been road legal in a decade apparently.

 

[HotMop]

They are all for the birds. The mother17ing Scout is here.
Classic retro looks
Lots of tech, but real buttons and knobs
EV power, torque, and ride
Gas for extended range when you need it

Not sure if it's going to be worth a shìt, but they are doing and saying all the right things. 12"+ of ground clearance, body on frame construction, mechanical lockers front and rear. 1,000+ lbs of torque... Solid axels... 350 miles of EV range and a gas powered range extender that charges the battery when needed for over 500 miles of range. And a reasonable price point, comparatively speaking.

Some of those old Scouts were the coolest vehicle designs ever made and this sucker may fall apart on the ride home, but it will look damn good doing it.


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And they have a truck too... 5-1/2' bed for scale.

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Really interesting to use gas/ice the way they are... I always thought the plug in hybrid was the way to go , but adding a fuel tank with a generator is probably much more cost/space efficient.

Where I live, pure EVs are limited by the sheer distance between places where you could put the infrastructure in for fast chargers. But gas stations can be anywhere and the ability to go 150 extra miles with gas is huge if necessary.

ETA. Volkswagen is the investor, but building a new factory in Columbia SC where they'll all be made by a new US led team.

As someone who has done extensive work in Columbia, SC this truck will have tons of quality issues.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

I think RAM is trying this setup out as well. Curious to see how practical it will be for towing. I'm definitely going to pay attention. Would love to have a truck that is an EV daily but can tow the camper realistically a few hundred miles without hours long charging stops.

You're only limited by your extension cord.

 

[Fritz!]

My Dad had a Scout when I was a kid. Coming down a left hand grade the passenger side rear axle/hub broke off, he steered it to a stop and put it in four wheel drive and got us home ( 1/2 mile). Also, he once closed the driver door on my right hand (the top was off) and left my index finger practically sheared off (I don’t know why I had my hand propped down there, I was about eight). I was just thinking about that Scout a few days ago. We also had a Travelall and an International pickup. Loved those vehicles.

 

[17itdawg]

As someone who has done extensive work in Columbia, SC this truck will have tons of quality issues.

Hey, if it can survive the roads in Columbia, it could be worth a ****!

 

[skipperDawg]

They are all for the birds. The mother17ing Scout is here.
Classic retro looks
Lots of tech, but real buttons and knobs
EV power, torque, and ride
Gas for extended range when you need it

Not sure if it's going to be worth a shìt, but they are doing and saying all the right things. 12"+ of ground clearance, body on frame construction, mechanical lockers front and rear. 1,000+ lbs of torque... Solid axels... 350 miles of EV range and a gas powered range extender that charges the battery when needed for over 500 miles of range. And a reasonable price point, comparatively speaking.

Some of those old Scouts were the coolest vehicle designs ever made and this sucker may fall apart on the ride home, but it will look damn good doing it.


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And they have a truck too... 5-1/2' bed for scale.

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Really interesting to use gas/ice the way they are... I always thought the plug in hybrid was the way to go , but adding a fuel tank with a generator is probably much more cost/space efficient.

Where I live, pure EVs are limited by the sheer distance between places where you could put the infrastructure in for fast chargers. But gas stations can be anywhere and the ability to go 150 extra miles with gas is huge if necessary.

ETA. Volkswagen is the investor, but building a new factory in Columbia SC where they'll all be made by a new US led team.

That m17er would look good kicking over sand dunes on the beach

 

[lazlow]

My wife has wanted a Scout her whole life.

Sir, this is a mississippi state sports message board

 

[Dawgg]

That top looks molded on. Gonna be hard to remove that.

 

[WilCoDawg]

That top looks molded on. Gonna be hard to remove that.

I was thinking that the missed the boat not allowing the top to be removable.

 

[aTotal360]

I like it. The range extender is a no-brainer. My understanding is that in the Asian EV market, gas range extenders are standard while we use more traditional hybrids. And yes, they function differently.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

I like it. The range extender is a no-brainer. My understanding is that in the Asian EV market, gas range extenders are standard while we use more traditional hybrids. And yes, they function differently.

You're right. I didn't know anyone was doing it in cars, but after thinking about it it's really the same concept as modern trains. Trains use diesel generators to create electricity for electric motors. It allows for more efficiency, reliability, durability, and power (torque) vs just trying to go directly from the diesel engine like modern trucks.

 

[Xenomorph]

I was thinking that the missed the boat not allowing the top to be removable.

Definitely.. could have taken a bite out of the Bronco market. Now it’s just another EV SUV startup.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

They probably just asked for permission from International for the name. International truck spun off of IH when Tenaco bought them forming CaseIH in the 80s.

 

[Curby]

It won't be available until 2028, but I am very interested in this concept.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

They probably just asked for permission from International for the name. International truck spun off of IH when Tenaco bought them forming CaseIH in the 80s.

I looked it up. Turns out Volkswagen owns Traton which is their heavy truck division. In Europe Traton has the MAN and Scania brands which are like Peterbilt and Freightliner in the US when it comes to big rigs and it now also owns Navistar aka International. The Scout brand and model names were just one of a thousand worthless line items on the books during that deal probably.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I looked it up. Turns out Volkswagen owns Traton which is their heavy truck division. In Europe Traton has the MAN and Scania brands which are like Peterbilt and Freightliner in the US when it comes to big rigs and it now also owns Navistar aka International. The Scout brand and model names were just one of a thousand worthless line items on the books during that deal probably.

Yeah all the US International truck model series have “star” in their names; Prostar, Transtar, Workstar, and Durastar.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

It won't be available until 2028, but I am very interested in this concept.

Yeah it will be a while. I remember how long the Bronco took. And funny enough, I just talked to my next door neighbor earlier this week. He reserved 2 Cybertrucks within 12 hours of the pre-order opening before Thanksgiving in 2019. He got the first one this summer and the second one is currently scheduled for delivery at the end of February 2025.

He said originally the cheaper one that he is now getting in February was supposed to be ready by end of 2021. The expensive one he got this summer was supposed to be in 2022... So odds are it will be quite a while once the bureaucrats slow down the process amongst normal delays.

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

My Dad had a 68 International Scout All Wheel Drive. The odometer quit at 27,000 miles. He drove it until he could not find or make brakes for it anymore, around 2003. I would bet it had a million miles on it when it retired.

 

[mcdawg22]

It’s not a real Scout unless you have to hand crank the windshield wipers. Amirite Der?

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

My Dad had a 68 International Scout All Wheel Drive. The odometer quit at 27,000 miles. He drove it until he could not find or make brakes for it anymore, around 2003. I would bet it had a million miles on it when it retired.

That's what you call a dependable piece of shìt.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

They are all for the birds. The mother17ing Scout is here.
Classic retro looks
Lots of tech, but real buttons and knobs
EV power, torque, and ride
Gas for extended range when you need it

Not sure if it's going to be worth a shìt, but they are doing and saying all the right things. 12"+ of ground clearance, body on frame construction, mechanical lockers front and rear. 1,000+ lbs of torque... Solid axels... 350 miles of EV range and a gas powered range extender that charges the battery when needed for over 500 miles of range. And a reasonable price point, comparatively speaking.

Some of those old Scouts were the coolest vehicle designs ever made and this sucker may fall apart on the ride home, but it will look damn good doing it.


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And they have a truck too... 5-1/2' bed for scale.

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Really interesting to use gas/ice the way they are... I always thought the plug in hybrid was the way to go , but adding a fuel tank with a generator is probably much more cost/space efficient.

Where I live, pure EVs are limited by the sheer distance between places where you could put the infrastructure in for fast chargers. But gas stations can be anywhere and the ability to go 150 extra miles with gas is huge if necessary.

ETA. Volkswagen is the investor, but building a new factory in Columbia SC where they'll all be made by a new US led team.

Starting at $60k…

 

[dgsmith15]

I think RAM is trying this setup out as well. Curious to see how practical it will be for towing. I'm definitely going to pay attention. Would love to have a truck that is an EV daily but can tow the camper realistically a few hundred miles without hours long charging stops.

You and me both. I really like my Ram 1500 and it honestly does a great job hauling our big *** camper around New England, but I wouldn’t mind moving on from the HEMI in the next 5 years. Having to commute to the office twice a week is really starting to make a sizable dent in the wallet.

Have a buddy that was one of the early recipients of the rivian truck who also used it tow their camper. It was plenty capable but he had to strategically plan routes just so he could stop and charge on the way. That lasted all of 4 months before he traded it in for the new tundra.

 

[DerHntr]

I drove my grandad’s scout to high school. It was my first vehicle. The damn thing was a tank. He had installed astroturf in the back. My cousins own it now. I wish we had never let that go. At least it’s still in the family.

 

[MSUDOG24]

I had one of the original ones, a 1968 with the 318 V8. No power steering, no power brakes, everything in the cab was made of painted metal. That thing was basically a farm implement. One of my biggest regrets was selling that thing.

Early 70's one of my friends in HS had one and I remember us taking it to the beach in Vicksburg (aka the sand bar on the river). We were blaring "It's Too Late To Turn Back Now" as we crossed over the "old bridge" (the "new bridge" hadn't even been built yet) on our way to the LA side.
To this day I immediately associate Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose and the IH Scout when ever I hear or see either. Funny the odd details/things you remember (and completely don't) but riding in that white over green, all painted metal interior Scout and that day are as clear as if it were yesterday.

 

[mcdawg22]

This was for sale in the Walmart parking lot. If I just had 20k laying around you can bet I would have picked it up. Any vehicle that you can clean the interior with a pressure washer is tops in my book!

 

[ChE1997]

You're right. I didn't know anyone was doing it in cars, but after thinking about it it's really the same concept as modern trains. Trains use diesel generators to create electricity for electric motors. It allows for more efficiency, reliability, durability, and power (torque) vs just trying to go directly from the diesel engine like modern trucks.

Also allows a smaller, more fuel efficient engine to charge the batteries. It can run at constant load, at the peak fuel efficiency point. And have a smaller battery pack. The benefit of EV's and the fuel density of Hydrocarbons.

I always thought this would have been a more palatable introduction to EV's for most people. Plug in at night to extend trips to the gas station, but the be able to eliminate the range anxiety.

Long road trips. Stop at Buckees and top off the gas tank. then move to the EV charger, while you get snacks, head back out with 500-800 miles of range.

 

[MagnoliaHunter]

I had one of the original ones, a 1968 with the 318 V8. No power steering, no power brakes, everything in the cab was made of painted metal. That thing was basically a farm implement. One of my biggest regrets was selling that thing.

My dad had one in 72-73, I think it was a 69. It may be my old age kicking, but I "remember" it having manual windshield wipers. Maybe it was earlier than 69 or I am just misremembering the hand operated wipers.


ETA: I just checked with my Dad. It was a 69 but it had powered wipers. It was the old Jeep that he had that had the manual wipers.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

My dad had one in 72-73, I think it was a 69. It may be my old age kicking, but I "remember" it having manual windshield wipers. Maybe it was earlier than 69 or I am just misremembering the hand operated wipers.

I'm waiting for you in the park.

 

[msudawg12]

“So I guess they just bought the names from International who probably just had them laying in an old foot licker collecting dust.”

International is now owned by Volkswagen’s global commercial truck and bus group, TRATON

 

[DecadeReb2]

Sir, this is a mississippi state sports message board

Top shelf.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

Had a couple friends the 80's that were known as "the scout brothers." They had 5 or 6 scouts and scout II models. Always had one running and the rest for parts. One of the older ones didn't have a gas tank. They drove it from Memphis to LBL with 3, 5 gallon outboard gas cans. When one went dry they would unhook it and slap the line on another can and never slow down. Kept cans of spray paint in them to match the color if they got a scratch. Good times.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

Nice use of Creedence in this commercial. Looks like what @msugrad2003 is going through right now at the 45 second mark...