OT: Can't wait till Wednesday...

[PooPopsBaldHead]

Cause it means no more political ads!

I don't know if any of you live in swing states, I sure don't, but we pick up some Montana TV stations for football (like Sunday Night Football on KECI out of Missoula) and baseball games on YouTube TV. I kid you not every single commercial without fail has been political ads for months. Months I tell you. One House race is getting a little attention in Montana, but it's all about a Senate seat in play. Nothing about the presidential race since it will be a wipeout. Are the local stations sending money back to the networks for their national ad space or something?

Anyhow, we have to get the 17ing outside money out of politics... My elementary age kids are 17ing arguing about who should be the Senator from another state.. "Carpet bagging Tim Sheehy, another out of state millionaire trying to change Montana" or "Three-term Tester who's running on his flat top haircut because it's all he can run on."

Holy shìt I have never seen anything like it.

 

[Anon1717806835]

Cause it means no more political ads!

I don't know if any of you live in swing states, I sure don't, but we pick up some Montana TV stations for football and baseball games on YouTube TV. I kid you not every single commercial without fail has been political ads for months. Months I tell you. One House race is getting a little attention in Montana, but it's all about a Senate seat in play. Nothing about the presidential race since it will be a wipeout. Are the local stations sending money back to the networks for their national ad space or something?

Anyhow, we have to get the 17ing outside money out of politics... My elementary age kids are 17ing arguing about who should be the Senator from another state.. "Carpet bagging Tim Sheehy, another out of state millionaire trying to change Montana" or "Three-term Tester who's running on his flat top haircut because it's all he can run on."

Holy shìt I have never seen anything like it.


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I live in the reddest congressional districts of one of the reddest Southern states. If the volume of text messages that I am getting from the Trump side are any measure of what people in places like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio are getting, I really feel bad for those people.

 

[FormerBully]

I live in the reddest congressional districts of one of the reddest Southern states. If the volume of text messages that I am getting from the Trump side are any measure of what people in places like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio are getting, I really feel bad for those people.

I am in a similar spot. The number of ads and texts I see is crazy. I am like you won this area, please move on.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Cause it means no more political ads!

I don't know if any of you live in swing states, I sure don't, but we pick up some Montana TV stations for football (like Sunday Night Football on KECI out of Missoula) and baseball games on YouTube TV. I kid you not every single commercial without fail has been political ads for months. Months I tell you. One House race is getting a little attention in Montana, but it's all about a Senate seat in play. Nothing about the presidential race since it will be a wipeout. Are the local stations sending money back to the networks for their national ad space or something?

Anyhow, we have to get the 17ing outside money out of politics... My elementary age kids are 17ing arguing about who should be the Senator from another state.. "Carpet bagging Tim Sheehy, another out of state millionaire trying to change Montana" or "Three-term Tester who's running on his flat top haircut because it's all he can run on."

Holy shìt I have never seen anything like it.


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There needs to be some serious curtailing on what is allowed to be spent campaigning. I'm sure the people collecting all the campaign money will legislate themselves some reasonable boundaries soon.***

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I deactivated Facebook until next week. I couldn’t handle the ads and constant barrage of Trump and Harris propaganda from friends.

 

[FormerBully]

I deactivated Facebook until next week. I couldn’t handle the ads and constant barrage of Trump and Harris propaganda from friends.

I think you are going to see propaganda on Facebook for months if he loses. I dropped Facebook in 2016 because of the craziness.

 

[mstateglfr]

It was announced a month ago that Harris' campaign had raised over $1BILLION. Why the 17 is she texting me on November 1st asking for $47 to ensure she wins in 3 days?!
I woke up this morning to a text from Sarah Huckabee Sanders asking me to make srue I vote for Trump tomorrow to ensure my state stays red.

I mean...WT17?! People are just sending whatever to whomever and hoping it sticks.
Probably 70% of the political texts that come to me are addressed to my wife too.


Living in a swing state would be intolerable.

 

[QuadrupleOption]

True, there won't be any political ads. What there WILL be, unfortunately, is 4 years of the losing side pissing, moaning, and blaming everything bad on the other side while trying to claim everything good came from their side.


Hopefully my side wins though, because I can feel better about myself and lord it over the losers.

 

[mstateglfr]

Anyhow, we have to get the 17ing outside money out of politics...

Elections need to be 10 weeks long and each candidate is capped at spending $X in that time. Media(tv, radio, internet, print) isnt allowed to run political ads before that 10 week mark.


To your outside money comment, its interesting to see how much different advertisement costs are for a campaign vs a PAC. A campaign has to be charged the lowest possible amount while a PAC can be charged whatever.
So a 30 second ad can cost 3x as much for a PAC to run, and as an election nears it can be 5x in cost.
I dont donate to anything political, but if I were to, it would be to a campaign directly since I am otherwise just helping to overpay for ad time.

How much do political ads cost? - Marketplace

Super PACs are able to raise more money because unlike campaigns, most of them are not subject to contribution limits.

www.marketplace.org

 

[MSUDOG24]

I live in the reddest congressional districts of one of the reddest Southern states. If the volume of text messages that I am getting from the Trump side are any measure of what people in places like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio are getting, I really feel bad for those people.

Sounds like someone might have left milk out for the stray cat. My wife did and she's paying for it now. I just chuckle.

 

[57stratdawg]

A great way to ruin an email address is to donate to a political campaign

 

[johnson86-1]

Man, I must actually be doing something right in my life. I've seen adds linked in blogs I read, but I've only seen a handful of political ads otherwise. Of course I don't watch much TV with commercials and stream music or podcasts in the car, so don't get many commercials there either. I don't get text messages, although I think I blocked some numbers in prior campaigns that were texting me. I see almost nothing on facebook or Instagram about politics, although I pretty much unfollowed or muted anybody that rants about politics in the past, so maybe the algorithm is helping me there.

Or maybe since I am actually one of those idiots that goes out of my way to read about politics the algorithms are good enough to exclude me because they figure I'm getting my info elsewhere and won't be persuaded by an ad.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

The other day my wife's phone rang with the caller ID: Donald J Trump. She showed me then hung up. I was flabbergasted. The amount of fun I could've had with that (if it was indeed a real person instead of a recording) is endless.

"Mr. President...They've taken the Hobbits to Isengard. Sanford and Son is a go. Give me 72 hours and my team will be wheels up. Strength and Honor."

About a month ago, I'd receive maybe a text per week. But these past few weeks, the texts stopped and I get several calls a day all from GA area codes, which I assume are campaign calls for both sides.

My mailbox, however, is inundated with more BS than I personally am. Can't the post office just rubber band those damn things together so it's easier for me to trash?!


ETA: I voted early for the first time last Thursday. I will not vote on "election day" ever again. Though, I've never experienced giant lines, as in huge metropolitan areas, it was just a pleasant experience. I don't think my engine had time to cool down.

 

[Howiefeltersnstch]

I don't get any ads or emails or text messages for politics. I'm excited for next weekend when they start burning all the blue cities down. Yippy

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

I must be protecting my stuff pretty well. I haven't gotten any texts or calls concerning the election.

 

[Crazy Cotton]

The McCain–Feingold Act was working reasonably well for a while, and then the SCOTUS systematically neutered it before deciding that corporations were just insanely rich people with free speech rights in 09, killing any controls that remained on soft money spending.

National election cycles are way to long, making them incredibly expensive. That makes politicians that much more beholden to big-money for campaign funding, and more easily corruptible.

No political adds until 30 days out of the election would be my fix, and would make football season much more enjoyable.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

It was announced a month ago that Harris' campaign had raised over $1BILLION. Why the 17 is she texting me on November 1st asking for $47 to ensure she wins in 3 days?!
I woke up this morning to a text from Sarah Huckabee Sanders asking me to make srue I vote for Trump tomorrow to ensure my state stays red.

I mean...WT17?! People are just sending whatever to whomever and hoping it sticks.
Probably 70% of the political texts that come to me are addressed to my wife too.


Living in a swing state would be intolerable.

You realize that they get to keep what is in their War Chest? Bennie Thompson has millions in his and he would never have to buy one add and still win by a landslide.

 

[goindhoo]

I just hope its over by Wednesday. Some states make it sound like it will take 3 days to count votes.

 

[PBRME]

It’ll just be starting Wednesday. The losing side is not going away quietly.

 

[mstateglfr]

You realize that they get to keep what is in their War Chest? Bennie Thompson has millions in his and he would never have to buy one add and still win by a landslide.

Yes I do. They hold back money for an election party, to pay bonuses, to start on the next election, etc etc.

Knowing they keep what is left over doesnt change the annoyance I have with being told my $47 donated 3 days before the election will help.

 

[mcdawg22]

The A&M game was ridiculous. Every commercial break was either a Cruz ad or an Allred one or both with a presidential one thrown in for good measure. Surprised we didn’t get a negative ad attacking Brian Bosworth for allowing the transfer portal on his watch as Sherriff of Fansville.

 

[The Peeper]

I don't watch network tv so I don't get those tv ads, about the only place I may see one is between YouTube videos but I just hit "Next" or "Skip" at the first opportunity.

Up until about a month ago I was getting lots of spammed texts and phone calls that surprisingly AT&T Active Armor has done a good job of catching and blocking for me. I check them occasionally but they have been spot on with blocking the right ones. Otherwise if you call me and aren't in my Contacts you better leave a message because I don't answer any calls from anyone not in Contacts.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

It was announced a month ago that Harris' campaign had raised over $1BILLION. Why the 17 is she texting me on November 1st asking for $47 to ensure she wins in 3 days?!
I woke up this morning to a text from Sarah Huckabee Sanders asking me to make srue I vote for Trump tomorrow to ensure my state stays red.

I mean...WT17?! People are just sending whatever to whomever and hoping it sticks.
Probably 70% of the political texts that come to me are addressed to my wife too.


Living in a swing state would be intolerable.

I'd donate a kidney to anyone who could stop the constant culture war ******** and start working on real issues.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Any sports I watch is on mute for all the political ads.

I'm still seeing it at a clip of 75/25, but I don't care to hear either amount.

 

[57stratdawg]

The McCain–Feingold Act was working reasonably well for a while, and then the SCOTUS systematically neutered it before deciding that corporations were just insanely rich people with free speech rights in 09, killing any controls that remained on soft money spending.

National election cycles are way to long, making them incredibly expensive. That makes politicians that much more beholden to big-money for campaign funding, and more easily corruptible.

No political adds until 30 days out of the election would be my fix, and would make football season much more enjoyable.

Good info. But I feel like it’ll be tough to say “no political ads until XX days out” because of the primaries. Maybe we could go with some type of window, but that might get tricky if you have a close convention and candidates are competing well into the summer.

 

[FormerBully]

I wish the ads were at least honest. I would vote for anyone that told me straight up they only care about their 6 big money doners. Also, we are going to war because I want to work for that big time government contractor when I am done.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

This thread made me curious. I haven't gotten a political text for a couple of weeks....turns out they have been blocked as spam. A ton of them. I don't know that I did anything, so thanks.....Google, or whomever.

I'm in Atlanta, and we had the dual Senate runoff 4 years ago, which was insane ad-wise. This year I'm getting a ton of ads telling me how bad Allred would be for Texas. Not sure why I should care, but he apparently wants to let criminals come across the border, imprison them, give them sex change operations in prison, and then have them compete against women in sports. Almost makes me wish I could vote in Texas

But, yeah, Citizens United needs to be addressed. Unfortunately, the people in position to make a change are the ones benefitting from the system.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

No political adds until 30 days out of the election would be my fix, and would make football season much more enjoyable.

Or... Now hear me out...

If you want to spend campaign or PAC funds raised outside of a given state, you must match the spend with a donation to the NIL fund for one of said state's land grant universities.

In a side note, gonna need all state fans to pinch your nose and vote to make sure Mississippi becomes a battle ground state in the next Senate cycle.

 

[HotMop]

The problem is it won't be finished on Wednesday. We will either have one party saying the election is stolen and trying to start a civil war or the other party will go Antifa and loot and pillage all of the cities.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

The wife and I are in the heart of Texas and sick to death of all the ad advertisements for both sides. They are both lying through their lips. I'm glad we both voted last week before I had my surgery. All I have to do is convalesce and hope the world doesn't blow up. I'm sick of the situation. I am not looking forward to Tuesday morning.

I'll say it once again: I really miss the days when we could argue and then go back to our corners when we were done. Yeah.

 

[johnson86-1]

The McCain–Feingold Act was working reasonably well for a while, and then the SCOTUS systematically neutered it before deciding that corporations were just insanely rich people with free speech rights in 09, killing any controls that remained on soft money spending.

You can agree or not agree with the SCOTUS decision, but at least tie your opinion to reality. Citizen United just stated that people don't lose their free speech rights because they organize into a group, whether it be a union or issue advocacy group or whatever.

Citizen United does presumably result in more money being spent on campaign and issue advocacy, it lets 100,000 people wanting to spend $100 each the ability to compete with $10M of million spending by an individual like Michael Bloomberg. Probably doesn't change the strength of unions much because their strength has always been direct giving and the ability to mobilize voters, but it does let them spend more on political ads if they want. It slightly decreases the power of incumbents because it gives more ways to compete with them.

You can think those tradeoffs are good or bad and think that constitution does or does not prohibit the government from stopping people from joining in groups to spend money on issue advocacy, but at least make a reference to reality when stating your position.

 

[PhredPhantom]

I’m just as sick of the political ads as everyone else is. There is still this, though, and I’m glad we have it even though it is sometimes abused. Free Speech is a blessing that few other countries enjoy.

Our rights are not given to us by the Constitution; they are from God. The amendments just prohibit infringements of them by the government.


First Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

The problem is it won't be finished on Wednesday. We will either have one party saying the election is stolen and trying to start a civil war or the other party will go Antifa and loot and pillage all of the cities.

Why not both?

 

[dorndawg]

The wife and I are in the heart of Texas and sick to death of all the ad advertisements for both sides. They are both lying through their lips. I'm glad we both voted last week before I had my surgery. All I have to do is convalesce and hope the world doesn't blow up. I'm sick of the situation. I am not looking forward to Tuesday morning.

I'll say it once again: I really miss the days when we could argue and then go back to our corners when we were done. Yeah.

Best of luck in your recovery - take care Dawg!

 

[HotMop]

Why not both?

I'm in!

 

[The Peeper]

I can't think of one instance where any political ads have changed my mind about who to vote for. I can usually go to a candidates website and either cull them almost immediately or make them a possibility in less than a couple minutes. All the fluff on TV and radio is just that, fluff, and anyone that falls for it is a very shallow easily influenced person

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

There needs to be some serious curtailing on what is allowed to be spent campaigning. I'm sure the people collecting all the campaign money will legislate themselves some reasonable boundaries soon.***

"Don't tread on our right of FREE SPEECH!" - Political parties, SuperPACS, Corporations, Russian Oligarchs, the Chinese Government, and Bob from Bogue Chitto!

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

You realize that they get to keep what is in their War Chest? Bennie Thompson has millions in his and he would never have to buy one add and still win by a landslide.

Wonder how much he gives of that money to help Democratic candidates in his own district or the state?

 

[Digging dog]

I live in the reddest congressional districts of one of the reddest Southern states. If the volume of text messages that I am getting from the Trump side are any measure of what people in places like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio are getting, I really feel bad for those people.

Same here with the text messages from the land of brick overpass and Walmart with Roman columns

 

[Anon1728174187]

I think you are going to see propaganda on Facebook for months if he loses. I dropped Facebook in 2016 because of the craziness.

I’m with you! I dropped Facebook because I was de-friending people that I had know for a long time and their incessant discussions/rants of their political view were just wearing me out. And haven’t returned. Maybe after this election cycle I will return. I’ve missed some people that have died that I would have known about if I had been on Facebook.