OT: I think during my lifetime so far Elon Musk is the game changer...

Mr. Potter

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I remember on the other board one of the posters advised everyone to sell short on this guy's Co. (Tesla). He was dead wrong. But the vision is something special he possesses and follows thru with.
 

Midnighter

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I remember on the other board one of the posters advised everyone to sell short on this guy's Co. (Tesla). He was dead wrong. But the vision is something special he possesses and follows thru with.

Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates - all far more revolutionary. Until Musk builds a teleportation or time machine, he’s basically the CEO of an electric luxury car company. The space stuff is cool, but we went to the moon in the 60s. His IDGAF attitude is charming and a bit refreshing though.

I remember that post too - swing and a miss!
 

Quint526

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I remember on the other board one of the posters advised everyone to sell short on this guy's Co. (Tesla). He was dead wrong. But the vision is something special he possesses and follows thru with.
Was that the poster desperately pushing Workhorse?
 

Midnighter

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Was that the poster desperately pushing Workhorse?

Not sure if the same poster as the one with the Workhorse thing, but @blion72 was the one who shorted Tesla....

 

Quint526

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Not sure if the same poster as the one with the Workhorse thing, but @blion72 was the one who shorted Tesla....

Thanks. I THINK that poster was OhHello. He/she was all in at $16/$17 and desperate for others to follow. WKHS is currently around $4.

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NittPicker

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Was that the poster desperately pushing Workhorse?
The guy pushing Workhorse on the old board was indeed OhHello as noted above. Soon afterward the stock began to drop and he predictably never reappeared. It's entertaining to track stocks which get pushed on a non-financial message board. The posters usually have an agenda and the stock goes nowhere. If it was such a winner they wouldn't need to resort to posting about it.

As for Musk, the guy comes across as a douchy azz. But he has billions so people ignore it. There's no denying his investment in the space industry is impressive. It's something the government wouldn't have the financial stomach for.
 
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MrTailgate

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Another great one was the poster who said the Dow was on its way to 12,000 if I remember correctly. Closer to home was Judge Smalls or whatever his handle was. Every year Ben Simmons was going to start drilling 3’s. He always posted the videos of Ben in shoot arounds draining 3’s. When you disagreed with his assessment, he went nuclear. That was fun.
 
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PSU Mike

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Brandon Ware. Hands down. First and only unblockable player in history. True game changer.
 
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91Joe95

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I remember on the other board one of the posters advised everyone to sell short on this guy's Co. (Tesla). He was dead wrong. But the vision is something special he possesses and follows thru with.

Huh? Tesla - niche vehicle. Solar panels - on life support. Rockets - government supported money pit. Carbon credits - that's where the guy makes his money, on some made up government tax on industry that he's allowed to sell and collect the revenue for instead of the IRS.

My vote would be for Sam Walton for revolutionizing logistics and inventory tracking.
 

LionJim

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The game changer for me is my wife of nearly 50 years. My life would be empty without her.
Likewise. But it works both ways, it’s a team game.

My wife’s parents were biology professors and were always crazy supportive during my years of graduate school. They would give me access to their college offices during Christmas break. (They taught at MacMurray College in Jacksonville Illinois.) They are part of my equation also.
 
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Huh? Tesla - niche vehicle. Solar panels - on life support. Rockets - government supported money pit. Carbon credits - that's where the guy makes his money, on some made up government tax on industry that he's allowed to sell and collect the revenue for instead of the IRS.

My vote would be for Sam Walton for revolutionizing logistics and inventory tracking.

"Sudden" Sam Walton played much the same game as Musk. He built his retail empire on the back of government subsistence programs for the poor. He paid workers just enough so they qualified for food stamps, and yet Clinton gave him a medal for it. It makes perfect sense.
 

WDLion

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"Sudden" Sam Walton played much the same game as Musk. He built his retail empire on the back of government subsistence programs for the poor. He paid workers just enough so they qualified for food stamps, and yet Clinton gave him a medal for it. It makes perfect sense.
That medal was given by Bush 1.
 

FrontierLion

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Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates - all far more revolutionary. Until Musk builds a teleportation or time machine, he’s basically the CEO of an electric luxury car company. The space stuff is cool, but we went to the moon in the 60s. His IDGAF attitude is charming and a bit refreshing though.

I remember that post too - swing and a miss!
There’s more to SpaceX than just going to the moon, though. New technology they developed now allow certain parts of a rocket to be reclaimed and used again, creating a more financially feasible program.

But I think the area with most potential is SpaceLink, which is owned by SpaceX. Essentially Elon is putting thousands of satellites into orbit which would change the way we all connect to the internet. No more cabled cross-country networks or connection points … simply connect to a satellite accessible from anywhere. Could solve a big problem with rural communities across the country having no access to broadband.
 

91Joe95

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"Sudden" Sam Walton played much the same game as Musk. He built his retail empire on the back of government subsistence programs for the poor. He paid workers just enough so they qualified for food stamps, and yet Clinton gave him a medal for it. It makes perfect sense.

Sure.
 

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There’s more to SpaceX than just going to the moon, though. New technology they developed now allow certain parts of a rocket to be reclaimed and used again, creating a more financially feasible program.

But I think the area with most potential is SpaceLink, which is owned by SpaceX. Essentially Elon is putting thousands of satellites into orbit which would change the way we all connect to the internet. No more cabled cross-country networks or connection points … simply connect to a satellite accessible from anywhere. Could solve a big problem with rural communities across the country having no access to broadband.
SpaceX also broke the virtual monopoly that United Launch Alliance (ULA) had on space launches in the US, particularly with the USG. Before SpaceX, Lockheed/Boeing were pretty much setting their own prices on USG launches, and they lobbied anyone they could to keep in that way.
 

troutrus

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Even though I’m an Iggles fan, I’d have to lean toward Tom Brady as the great game changer.
 

Nitt1300

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MacNit

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Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates - all far more revolutionary. Until Musk builds a teleportation or time machine, he’s basically the CEO of an electric luxury car company. The space stuff is cool, but we went to the moon in the 60s. His IDGAF attitude is charming and a bit refreshing though.

I remember that post too - swing and a miss!
Musk is not done yet.

And space travel is the most transformational activity of the 20th/21st century - driving most other innovations.
 

PSUriseANDfire

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Elon Musk is the best public vampire literally and figuratively.

Tesla will be over with in a few years.
 

blion72

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Huh? Tesla - niche vehicle. Solar panels - on life support. Rockets - government supported money pit. Carbon credits - that's where the guy makes his money, on some made up government tax on industry that he's allowed to sell and collect the revenue for instead of the IRS.

My vote would be for Sam Walton for revolutionizing logistics and inventory tracking.
that is largely correct. Tesla has really not been a long term profitable company based on fundamentals of making cars. They are a car company currently valued more than the rest of the market put together. There are analysts in the market on both sides of this topic. Some say Tesla will never cover its valuation with earnings growth, and others say it will. I could care less either way.

Yes, i was one of a few people on the old site who spoke re shorting Tesla (and other pure momentum stocks that trade on news/hype). I made some money, so not a swing and miss. I got out in a positive position - not a long term hold or bet. My position is always to short companies that are extremely over valued and hyped, but get the heck out quick as momentum stocks swing quick and you will get hit in a short squeeze if you do not follow closely.

My bet had nothing to do with Elon Musk, EV future or anything green. None of that is relevant to me - it is just money.
 
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