OT: Kids, stay off the Twitter

18IsTheMan

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27 year old MLB pitcher Nestor Cortes just had 10 year old Tweets dredged up where he supposedly used racial slurs. Forget that he was 17 years old at the time. Supposedly he was quoting rap lyrics.

Kind of pathetic that some reporter had nothing better to do than to comb through 10 years of Twitter posts to try finding something offensive.
 

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I knew a woman in her late 30s who was up for an executive position. A very serious woman, good at what she did, but seeking a competitive highly paid position. Someone googled her and found Spring Break pictures from her college days where she was topless on the beach. Someone else, also highly qualified got the job. Don't know how much the old, old picts hurt her chances. Employers check social media these days.
 

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27 year old MLB pitcher Nestor Cortes just had 10 year old Tweets dredged up where he supposedly used racial slurs. Forget that he was 17 years old at the time. Supposedly he was quoting rap lyrics.

Kind of pathetic that some reporter had nothing better to do than to comb through 10 years of Twitter posts to try finding something offensive.
Reporters seem to have a hard time grasping that if you report a good story that happens in front of your face every day, is much easier than spending hours looking for something negative. I guess that is all of our faults because we tend to pay attention to the negative more.
 

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Reporters seem to have a hard time grasping that if you report a good story that happens in front of your face every day, is much easier than spending hours looking for something negative. I guess that is all of our faults because we tend to pay attention to the negative more.

True. And I guess it's a consequence of having around the clock media coverage with thousands of media outlets. There's not enough actual news to go around, so they have to make news stories out of things that aren't newsworthy. And because they have so much free time on their hands, they can sit on Twitter and look back over 10 years of posts.
 
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18IsTheMan

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I knew a woman in her late 30s who was up for an executive position. A very serious woman, good at what she did, but seeking a competitive highly paid position. Someone googled her and found Spring Break pictures from her college days where she was topless on the beach. Someone else, also highly qualified got the job. Don't know how much the old, old picts hurt her chances. Employers check social media these days.

I don't think anyone's life has ever been enhanced because of social media.
 

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I don't think anyone's life has ever been enhanced because of social media.
I wouldn't have the job I currently have if I didn't have Facebook. I kept in touch with an old coworker who looked me up when his new company was hiring. Funny thing is, he doesn't have a FB anymore. He's a manager and the company, like so many, has veered towards being woke.
 

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I wouldn't have the job I currently have if I didn't have Facebook. I kept in touch with an old coworker who looked me up when his new company was hiring. Funny thing is, he doesn't have a FB anymore. He's a manager and the company, like so many, has veered towards being woke.

There are certainly ways folks have benefitted from social media, but who is to say how things would have shaken out had social media never been invented. Just looking globally, I don't think the world is a better place because of social media.
 

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I don't think anyone's life has ever been enhanced because of social media.

I can say that mine has. I've been able to keep in touch with friends all over the world - which has let me maintain so many more meaningful friendships than I ever could have otherwise. Business wise I've been able to create and build relationships that have benefited me greatly financially. Even a place like twitter has been great to get up-to-the-minute information that I need to run my own business. And I can even say that in my single days social media led to many a good night for 'ol Flanders.

Social media is merely a tool, and it only works as well as the person using it. It's easy to block out the garbage, it's just that many people don't choose to - and in fact, they just add to it. Thus, their social media experience ends up as just that - garbage.
 
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I can say that mine has. I've been able to keep in touch with friends all over the world - which has let me maintain so many more meaningful friendships than I ever could have otherwise. Business wise I've been able to create and build relationships that have benefited me greatly financially. Even a place like twitter has been great to get up-to-the-minute information that I need to run my own business. And I can even say that in my single days social media led to many a good night for 'ol Flanders.

Social media is merely a tool, and it only works as well as the person using it. It's easy to block out the garbage, it's just that many people don't choose to - and in fact, they just add to it. Thus, their social media experience ends up as just that - garbage.
Exception not the rule. Most people can’t use this tool without the tool almost killing them. FB, Instagram, Tik Tok has effectively killed a whole generations ability to communicate.
 
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I don't think anyone's life has ever been enhanced because of social media.
I think it depends on what they were hoping to derive. Some people have exploited it to great advantage. Others have been ruined by it. It's a minefield. You have to watch where you step.
 
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Exception not the rule. Most people can’t use this tool without the tool almost killing them. FB, Instagram, Tik Tok has effectively killed a whole generations ability to communicate.

But am I the exception? I know so many people who's lives aren't in any way harmed or dominated by social media. It's certainly anecdotal, but I feel like most information put out these days (and maybe forever) is alarmist and puffed up to get views. Remember killer bees? The hole in the ozone layer? Acid Rain? I think you can add "social media" to that list.

I think the vast majority of people will eventually learn to use the internet and social media in the positive ways that can take our society to even greater heights. It's just that so many aren't savvy or sophisticated enough users to weed through the garbage right now. It's like we are going through a bit of a "dark ages" as so many cannot handle having access to so much information and such free communications.
 

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But am I the exception? I know so many people who's lives aren't in any way harmed or dominated by social media. It's certainly anecdotal, but I feel like most information put out these days (and maybe forever) is alarmist and puffed up to get views. Remember killer bees? The hole in the ozone layer? Acid Rain? I think you can add "social media" to that list.

I think the vast majority of people will eventually learn to use the internet and social media in the positive ways that can take our society to even greater heights. It's just that so many aren't savvy or sophisticated enough users to weed through the garbage right now. It's like we are going through a bit of a "dark ages" as so many cannot handle having access to so much information and such free communications.

"Eventually learn to use the internet"? It's been nearly 3 decades since internet became widespread.
 
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"Eventually learn to use the internet"? It's been nearly 3 decades since internet became widespread.

But it hasn't been as ubiquitous as it is has become. With smart phones, the ability for literally anyone to create a website, the way most information dissemination is now through the internet - we've come to a point where the internet is intertwined with every part of everyday life (including qr codes instead of menus at restaurants). It's not just around - it's a part of life. People turn to the internet for answers - but again, so many aren't savvy enough to navigate the waters (as you would expect with a populace that was spoon fed information their whole lives). And that's not a knock on previous eras - it was just what was necessary based on the options available. You can only print so many stories in a newspaper, and put so many stories on a 30-minute newscast, and print so many investigative articles in a magazine, and people only had so many viewing/reading options (timing wise within a busy day). Now you can get a whole day's worth of information in 10 minutes - unfortunately you can get a whole day's worth of misinformation, lies, propaganda, etc. in ten minutes as well.

We'll figure it out though. Look throughout history - even though there are ups and downs - human kind has always trended up.
 
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But am I the exception? I know so many people who's lives aren't in any way harmed or dominated by social media. It's certainly anecdotal, but I feel like most information put out these days (and maybe forever) is alarmist and puffed up to get views. Remember killer bees? The hole in the ozone layer? Acid Rain? I think you can add "social media" to that list.

I think the vast majority of people will eventually learn to use the internet and social media in the positive ways that can take our society to even greater heights. It's just that so many aren't savvy or sophisticated enough users to weed through the garbage right now. It's like we are going through a bit of a "dark ages" as so many cannot handle having access to so much information and such free communications.
I disagree. But oh well. I think it’s short sighted to compare something like bees to the new world in which social media has totally changed society forever
 
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27 year old MLB pitcher Nestor Cortes just had 10 year old Tweets dredged up where he supposedly used racial slurs. Forget that he was 17 years old at the time. Supposedly he was quoting rap lyrics.

Kind of pathetic that some reporter had nothing better to do than to comb through 10 years of Twitter posts to try finding something offensive.
What does “a series of short, high-pitched calls or sounds” have to do with this?
 

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But it hasn't been as ubiquitous as it is has become. With smart phones, the ability for literally anyone to create a website, the way most information dissemination is now through the internet - we've come to a point where the internet is intertwined with every part of everyday life (including qr codes instead of menus at restaurants). It's not just around - it's a part of life. People turn to the internet for answers - but again, so many aren't savvy enough to navigate the waters (as you would expect with a populace that was spoon fed information their whole lives). And that's not a knock on previous eras - it was just what was necessary based on the options available. You can only print so many stories in a newspaper, and put so many stories on a 30-minute newscast, and print so many investigative articles in a magazine, and people only had so many viewing/reading options (timing wise within a busy day). Now you can get a whole day's worth of information in 10 minutes - unfortunately you can get a whole day's worth of misinformation, lies, propaganda, etc. in ten minutes as well.

We'll figure it out though. Look throughout history - even though there are ups and downs - human kind has always trended up.

I'd like to agree with this. I do think social media is merely a tool and the fault with bad things lies with users, but I'm not near as optimistic that generations to come will sort it out.

I think the question is really whether you should "be able to get a whole day's information in 10 minutes," and if you can, can you process it on anything other than a superficial level that doesn't allow for nuance or gray areas or sophistication.

I don't think our brains -- ok, so my brain -- is equipped to handle the sheer amount of information aimed at it. Take that and the apparently natural herding instinct we have to go with information that reinforces whatever beliefs we have, and the roads paved with "alternate facts," leading to all sorts of other tribalism that doesn't bode well for unity.

Add in the whole consumer driven society we live in where the 'customer is always right' and if something's wrong it's somebody else's fault, and the power social media has to amplify twisted crap and attract followers, and skepticism surrounding sources -- I read a blip the other day about "who gets to define misinformation" -- and I wonder what is in store for human kind.
 
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