OT: Link. Some how Youtube's algorithm suggested this for me. Sammy the Bull and Mike Franzese

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Very Interesting. One it seems is jealous of the other


I previously watched it. Very entertaining. I watch the vids they make on their separate channels every once in a while. Both are good presenters. There are a lot of other guys who make videos calling out The Bull and Michael Franzese in the hope of getting more attention for their own youtube channels. Plenty of vids on youtube now from real wiseguys and wiseguy wannabes.
 
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If you think that is fascinating, read some stuff on the Architect of Organized Crime - Arnold Rothstein. He was a true visionary.
Will do. I always remember him because I was a huge baseball fan growing up and he was, depending on who you believe, the architect behind the 1919 World Series. I read once that he was murdered because he refused to pay a large debt when he lost big on a fixed poker game. Is that true?
 

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Will do. I always remember him because I was a huge baseball fan growing up and he was, depending on who you believe, the architect behind the 1919 World Series. I read once that he was murdered because he refused to pay a large debt when he lost big on a fixed poker game. Is that true?
Yes, that is what the story is. He had gone an an inexplicable losing streak, which started when a European business partner whom he was going to get into the illicit drug business simply disappeared. Then things started going really downhill. I think he was down $320K on a 36 hour poker binge or so, and he either refused or could not pay right away because he had so much cash out on the streets - he was bankrolling mob businesses, plus he had invested heavily in the illicit drug business with the European guy.

On his death bed he was asked by the police who did it, and he refused to tell them.
 

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Will do. I always remember him because I was a huge baseball fan growing up and he was, depending on who you believe, the architect behind the 1919 World Series. I read once that he was murdered because he refused to pay a large debt when he lost big on a fixed poker game. Is that true?
Rothstein was the model for Meyer Wolfsheim in The Great Gatsby.
 
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