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Nitwit

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AKB - I have an 18 year old hot water heater. The temperature control started malfunctioning and now the water temperature is scalding hot. I cut off the electricity to it when I left the house this morning and decided to just replace the heater rather than invest in a repair given it’s age. It’s a 40 gallon electric heater in my shore condo which is a 3 bedroom, 2 bath house with an outdoor shower and laundry and dishwasher. Questions - is 40 gallons the right size? (There are just 2 of us living there). Are there any particular brands I should purchase? Are there any features available on water heaters now that are useful in terms of preventing leaks or other malfunctions? It’s been a long time obviously since I’ve looked at these. Thanks for any advice.
 

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AKB - I have an 18 year old hot water heater. The temperature control started malfunctioning and now the water temperature is scalding hot. I cut off the electricity to it when I left the house this morning and decided to just replace the heater rather than invest in a repair given it’s age. It’s a 40 gallon electric heater in my shore condo which is a 3 bedroom, 2 bath house with an outdoor shower and laundry and dishwasher. Questions - is 40 gallons the right size? (There are just 2 of us living there). Are there any particular brands I should purchase? Are there any features available on water heaters now that are useful in terms of preventing leaks or other malfunctions? It’s been a long time obviously since I’ve looked at these. Thanks for any advice.
We replaced our 40 gallon recently with a 50 gallon and there are 2 of us so plenty of hot water for everything you need. No regrets.
 
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AKB - I have an 18 year old hot water heater. The temperature control started malfunctioning and now the water temperature is scalding hot. I cut off the electricity to it when I left the house this morning and decided to just replace the heater rather than invest in a repair given it’s age. It’s a 40 gallon electric heater in my shore condo which is a 3 bedroom, 2 bath house with an outdoor shower and laundry and dishwasher. Questions - is 40 gallons the right size? (There are just 2 of us living there). Are there any particular brands I should purchase? Are there any features available on water heaters now that are useful in terms of preventing leaks or other malfunctions? It’s been a long time obviously since I’ve looked at these. Thanks for any advice.
I just replaced a gas water heater after 12 years. I've been in my house for 23 years and now on my third, so I guess the first one lasted about 11. If I knew I was going to be in my house for another 10 + years, I would have installed a tankless unit. The cost was not that much more, but when comparing, we paid more than double the price of the prior install. Another challenge, specifically for us, was that the tankless unit was not immediately available (Supply Chain, yadda, yadda...) and we needed it urgently. I suppose with electric, you can do it yourself, so that could make a difference in your calculation.

As far as features, I know there are apps that can alert you of a leak. Not sure about preventing them. They also make pans you can sit them in that will allow you to funnel the water to a particular location in the event of a leak.

For size, here is what Bob Vila says:

For a tank-style heater, household size is a simple indicator of hot water needs.

You can estimate the necessary tank capacity (in gallons) based on the number of people in the house:

  • 1 or 2 people—23 to 36 gallons
  • 2 to 4 people—36 to 46 gallons
  • 3 to 5 people—46 to 56 gallons
  • 5 or more people—over 56 gallons (add 10 gallons per additional person)
 
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There are message boards dedicated to water heaters. Do you go to one of those for advice on PSU football?
But yes, 40 gallons is big enough for 2.😀
 

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Just spoke to my plumber. They are planning to bring a 40 gallon Bradford White, same as they installed 18 years ago. Since the last one worked well enough I’m going to trust their judgement as I’ll go back to them if I ever need service. Good news is they will do it on Thursday when I’m heading back down.
 
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AKB - I have an 18 year old hot water heater. The temperature control started malfunctioning and now the water temperature is scalding hot. I cut off the electricity to it when I left the house this morning and decided to just replace the heater rather than invest in a repair given it’s age. It’s a 40 gallon electric heater in my shore condo which is a 3 bedroom, 2 bath house with an outdoor shower and laundry and dishwasher. Questions - is 40 gallons the right size? (There are just 2 of us living there). Are there any particular brands I should purchase? Are there any features available on water heaters now that are useful in terms of preventing leaks or other malfunctions? It’s been a long time obviously since I’ve looked at these. Thanks for any advice.

Have you ever run out of hot water while showering? If no, you have plenty of capacity.

Flow rates:
- faucets and showers typically throttled at 2 gpm
- dishwasher 3-6 gallons per cycle
- washing machine - varies on size and type, but a top loader 10-20 gallons, front loader and newer efficiency top loaders even less.

Doesn't sound like you have the inclination and/or skills to replace the simple controls. Depending on your shower time you can probably go even smaller, maybe 25-30 gallons. Hopefully you keep these turned off when bot there, close inlet valves, etc. Tankless is definitely an option.
 
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Just spoke to my plumber. They are planning to bring a 40 gallon Bradford White, same as they installed 18 years ago. Since the last one worked well enough I’m going to trust their judgement as I’ll go back to them if I ever need service. Good news is they will do it on Thursday when I’m heading back down.

Do you have quarter turn ball valves on the inlet lines? If not consider them so that it is easy to turn water off and it's easy to see that it's off. Have them add a switch to the power too.
 

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Do you have quarter turn ball valves on the inlet lines? If not consider them so that it is easy to turn water off and it's easy to see that it's off. Have them add a switch to the power too.
Forty should work and be more efficient. 50 is luxury/ multiple long showers.

First thing I've done on everything I've replaced. Love it! Put in a Rheem about two years ago. No real complaints. I've been told Bradford White is top notch. If you are doing it yourself and have problems with sweating the supply line, don't forget the balled up piece of bread trick to keep the joint dry. Just remember to remove the aerator screens. https://www.familyhandyman.com/list/seven-plumbing-tricks-you-have-to-know/

I also used a hose for one of the connections. It saved time. I didn't have to hack out a large run of pipe to make the new unit fit.

Just saw you got another Bradford White. Good choice!
 
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