OT: Penn State *quietly* makes peace with Spanier UPDATED W/ WORKING VIDEO

Zenophile

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Video doesn’t seem to be working. Here’s my best take at a transcript of Dr. Spanier’s remarks:

“There was a meeting last year with an outside attorney, who the University had hired, who began the meeting by saying, ‘I have read everything. I've read everything pertaining to this matter. I've even listened to that four hour interview you did with (journalist). I read everything. I know everything about this, and we have concluded that you did nothing wrong. That is our conclusion, so what do we need to do now?’

It wasn't an apology. But it was an acknowledgment, and it felt good to hear it. I said, ‘OK, now I'm comfortable officially retiring from Penn State.’ I retain all my titles, President Emeritus, Professor Emeritus. It felt like a bit of a vindication. It wasn’t an apology. I don't know if they ever come around to that. Maybe now that there's a different Board of Trustees and a new president. I think it would be a dream if they said, ‘We embrace Graham Spanier. This wasn’t right what happened before.’ But it’s very hard for a big organization to come around to that. That's why I'm not holding my breath.”
 

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“There was a meeting last year with an outside attorney, who the University had hired, who began the meeting by saying, ‘I have read everything. I've read everything pertaining to this matter. I've even listened to that four hour interview you did with (journalist). I read everything. I know everything about this, and we have concluded that you did nothing wrong. That is our conclusion, so what do we need to do now?’
I find this extremely hard to believe. A lawyer wouldn't speak in absolutes like this, especially to a former employee that their client fired. This would essentially be an admission of wrongful termination.
 
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I find this extremely hard to believe. A lawyer wouldn't speak in absolutes like this, especially to a former employee that their client fired. This would essentially be an admission of wrongful termination.
What you’ve said is true. What if the former employee voluntarily resigned his post?
 
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I find this extremely hard to believe. A lawyer wouldn't speak in absolutes like this, especially to a former employee that their client fired. This would essentially be an admission of wrongful termination.
I thought the same but now Spanier is making this up?
 
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I find this extremely hard to believe. A lawyer wouldn't speak in absolutes like this, especially to a former employee that their client fired. This would essentially be an admission of wrongful termination.
Gal Gadot can f.u.c.k me if I'm wrong, but I thought Spanier was removed from his duties but not actually fired from his paid, tenured faculty position.

Somebody please prove me wrong.

And get me Gal's phone number.
 

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Gal Gadot can f.u.c.k me if I'm wrong, but I thought Spanier was removed from his duties but not actually fired from his paid, tenured faculty position.

Somebody please prove me wrong.

And get me Gal's phone number.
Spanier’s never wavered from the position that he voluntarily resigned, including in his book. Shifting to a claim of wrongful termination would require the mother of all pivots.
 

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I find this extremely hard to believe. A lawyer wouldn't speak in absolutes like this, especially to a former employee that their client fired. This would essentially be an admission of wrongful termination.
Even if it was such an admission (and I am not sure that it is given it is coming from an outside lawyer), the SOL on a civil lawsuit has long since run.
 

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Video doesn’t seem to be working. Here’s my best take at a transcript of Dr. Spanier’s remarks:

“There was a meeting last year with an outside attorney, who the University had hired, who began the meeting by saying, ‘I have read everything. I've read everything pertaining to this matter. I've even listened to that four hour interview you did with (journalist). I read everything. I know everything about this, and we have concluded that you did nothing wrong. That is our conclusion, so what do we need to do now?’

It wasn't an apology. But it was an acknowledgment, and it felt good to hear it. I said, ‘OK, now I'm comfortable officially retiring from Penn State.’ I retain all my titles, President Emeritus, Professor Emeritus. It felt like a bit of a vindication. It wasn’t an apology. I don't know if they ever come around to that. Maybe now that there's a different Board of Trustees and a new president. I think it would be a dream if they said, ‘We embrace Graham Spanier. This wasn’t right what happened before.’ But it’s very hard for a big organization to come around to that. That's why I'm not holding my breath.”
If true, that occurred under Barrons reign and not Neeli’s!
 

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Now apologize to the Paternos.

If true, that occurred under Barrons reign and not Neeli’s!
I doubt Barron would have had the courage, nor the ok from the BOT, to acknowledge this meeting even took place, let alone announce the results or take the next logical step and publicly apologize to the Paternos.

From what I have heard, Neeli has been very open to hearing and learning more about the whole deal. She has embraced Sue and the Paterno family. While we still have not heard from PSU publicly about this, I hold out hope that the new admin will eventually take more public steps to make the overdue statements and acknowledgements. Sooner than later, I hope. I expect more courageous leadership from her than I ever did from Barron. Same with Kraft vs. Sandy.

Also, interesting that PSU's hired attorney came to the same conclusion in 2021 that the Thornburg et. al. report came to in 2012.
 
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