OT: State of the Wine Industry

[LionJim]

Randomly showed up on my feed. Interesting, if nothing else.

Olney has four local breweries, absolutely top-notch beer. But you got to wonder how well they’re doing too.

The Wine Industry is Headed For Self-Inflicted Decrepitude

The annual report on the state of the US wine industry came out last week. It isn't pretty, and should scare anyone with any sense.

www.vinography.com

 

[Woodpecker]

Randomly showed up on my feed. Interesting, if nothing else.

Olney has four local breweries, absolutely top-notch beer. But you got to wonder how well they’re doing too.

The Wine Industry is Headed For Self-Inflicted Decrepitude

The annual report on the state of the US wine industry came out last week. It isn't pretty, and should scare anyone with any sense.

www.vinography.com

I had no idea that White Claw is healthy

 

[BobPSU92]

Everyone’s moving to lattes.

 

[fairgambit]

Randomly showed up on my feed. Interesting, if nothing else.

Olney has four local breweries, absolutely top-notch beer. But you got to wonder how well they’re doing too.

The Wine Industry is Headed For Self-Inflicted Decrepitude

The annual report on the state of the US wine industry came out last week. It isn't pretty, and should scare anyone with any sense.

www.vinography.com

Interesting article Jim. Thanks.
I might note though that "whine" use is ubiquitous on this board.

 

[NewEra 2014]

Randomly showed up on my feed. Interesting, if nothing else.

Olney has four local breweries, absolutely top-notch beer. But you got to wonder how well they’re doing too.

The Wine Industry is Headed For Self-Inflicted Decrepitude

The annual report on the state of the US wine industry came out last week. It isn't pretty, and should scare anyone with any sense.

www.vinography.com

That is an interesting article. I do believe that people tend to transition from drinking beer to drinking wine as they get older. But even if that trend occurs with younger people, the sheer size of the huge baby boom generation aging out of drinking in comparison to younger generations moving into wine drinking is going to be a tough thing for the wine industry to overcome.

 

[Nitt1300]

You can't turn around in NY's Finger Lakes region without seeing another new winery. And even during the summer, none of them seem all that busy with visitors.

 

[LionJim]

That is an interesting article. I do believe that people tend to transition from drinking beer to drinking wine as they get older. But even if that trend occurs with younger people, the sheer size of the huge baby boom generation aging out of drinking in comparison to younger generations moving into wine drinking is going to be a tough thing for the wine industry to overcome.

Yeah, that’s sad in a way. They put their hearts and souls into making a top product. I mean, the local beer I’ve tried, my god, just superb.

 

[LionJim]

You can't turn around in NY's Finger Lakes region without seeing another new winery. And even during the summer, none of them seem all that busy with visitors.

The Olney breweries I’ve mentioned seem to do good business, but you got to wonder.

 

[TheBigUglies]

The winery, microbrewery, distillery markets are saturated in some places. State College area has about 6-7 wineries, 5-6 microbreweries, 2-3 distilleries. I think the the ones that survive will be those that have the better customer service. For example, when you go to one of these places and you feel welcome vs when you go and are made to feel like you are bothering the people working there. I come to spend my money I expect the experience to be worth it or I ain't coming back. Oh my god I am getting old. GET OFF MY LAWN!!

 

[Bison13]

The Olney breweries I’ve mentioned seem to do good business, but you got to wonder.

Which is your fav? Went to waredaka(sp) a few times. It’s solid.

 

[LionJim]

Which is your fav? Went to waredaka(sp) a few times. It’s solid.

Brookeville is pretty good. I really want to try their Irish stout.

 

[IrishHerb]

The Olney breweries I’ve mentioned seem to do good business, but you got to wonder.

I wonder how much they brew. Some of the smaller brew pubs, brew just enough for themselves and they sell all that they make. Wineries on the other hand seem to produce
an amount to sell off premise, and there lies the problem.

I often wonder about Streetcar 82. They produce beer to be drink on premises. But do they produce enough and sell enough to be profitable?

 

[Catch1lion]

Interesting article Jim. Thanks.
I might note though that "whine" use is ubiquitous on this board.

Love the British use of the word whingeing. I learned of it just recently . I picked it up on the close caption feed of Drive to Survive, the F-1 documentary on Netflix. I had to look it up as any good 3rd grader would.

 

[BobPSU92]

Brookeville is pretty good. I really want to try their Irish stout.

Along the lines of a Black Russian?

 

[Nitt1300]

The brew pubs that I've seen survive for years all seem to have three things in common- good beer and a variety of it, good food, and good attitudes. (I think micro breweries that distribute are an entirely different business.)

 

[manatree]

Not much of a drinker, but I am confident in the strength of the whine industry.

 

[Catch1lion]

Along the lines of a Black Russian?

Genetically linked to Lviv, I more of a "caucasian" dude.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Not worried - at all - about the future of the wine industry. Kids who are now drinking malt beverages (ugh!) will likely change their drinking habits as they age. And there are a whole lot of people who like good wine.

 

[FTLPSU]

Very interesting article-thanks for sharing.

Another norm changing from the cultural trends of todays fast instant impulsive society. Takes some patient learning and appreciation for wine.

Never had a White Claw or any of those trendy fabricated drinks....

 

[Nittany1865Farmer]

Considering that Pennsylvania is not considered a "prime" wine-growing region in the beginning, it has found a niche with the right cultivation of grapes that produce a good product with the weather conditions. There are always two groups of wine-drinkers: the casual drinkers who prefer box wine up to paying maybe 25 dollars per bottle, and the serious drinkers who will shell out top dollar for top-shelf wine. Wineries who profit are the ones who put out a good product and keep the price within that 10 to 25 dollar range. Why charge a high price for a Riesling when a person will buy the lower priced bottle that can taste pretty darn close to the expensive version.

 

[JoeLion]

Considering that Pennsylvania is not considered a "prime" wine-growing region in the beginning, it has found a niche with the right cultivation of grapes that produce a good product with the weather conditions. There are always two groups of wine-drinkers: the casual drinkers who prefer box wine up to paying maybe 25 dollars per bottle, and the serious drinkers who will shell out top dollar for top-shelf wine. Wineries who profit are the ones who put out a good product and keep the price within that 10 to 25 dollar range. Why charge a high price for a Riesling when a person will buy the lower priced bottle that can taste pretty darn close to the expensive version.

I am curious as to the variety of wine grapes grown in PA? TIA.

 

[LionJim]

I am curious as to the variety of wine grapes grown in PA? TIA.

You can get some really decent wine in Maryland.

 

[TheBigUglies]

I am curious as to the variety of wine grapes grown in PA? TIA.

To me, all the PA wines made with PA Grown grapes are really too sweet. However, if you like that kind of thing then why not. Here is a link to grapes grown in PA: https://pennsylvaniawine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/PAWinesGrapeGuide_longform.pdf

Also, I guess it depends on each winery and how they grow their grapes. One winery in SC has some overly sweet wines, another has wines that taste a lot better to me. I am just learning how the different climates and soils make the diff flavors in wines. And the when the winery picks the grapes determines sweetness. Anyway, I just like wine that tastes good. I prefer not to drop more then $20 on a bottle of wine. Sometimes I pick wine just because I like the label.

 

[Nittany1865Farmer]

To me, all the PA wines made with PA Grown grapes are really too sweet. However, if you like that kind of thing then why not. Here is a link to grapes grown in PA: https://pennsylvaniawine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/PAWinesGrapeGuide_longform.pdf

Also, I guess it depends on each winery and how they grow their grapes. One winery in SC has some overly sweet wines, another has wines that taste a lot better to me. I am just learning how the different climates and soils make the diff flavors in wines. And the when the winery picks the grapes determines sweetness. Anyway, I just like wine that tastes good. I prefer not to drop more then $20 on a bottle of wine. Sometimes I pick wine just because I like the label.

It seems to me that a lot of the PA wineries produce dessert and merlot wines because of the sweetness of grapes and other fruits that are available. I prefer semi-dry to dry wines myself.

 

[JoeLion]

I make most of the wine I drink. I get the juice bucket kits. The grape juice is from wine producing countries such as Italy, France, Chile and California to name a few. The quality depends on how much you are willing to pay however all have been drinkable and some age quite well.