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marshall23

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I'm not a veteran. But my father was a WW2 combat veteran. 28th Division 112th Regiment Company K. I just saw a commercial on Fox that takes excerpts from Eisenhower's speech to the troops on D Day...you know the "you are about to embarck on the great crusade.. the eyes of the world are upon you." They are equating Michigan vs OSU to war?
What the hell are they thinking? There are thousands of 18 and 19 year old boys buried not far from the beaches of Normandy.
How can anyone with a functioning brain equate a football game to D Day?
What an insult to our greatest generation and everyone who ever risked their lives for our way of life. Someone should lose their job.
 

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I'm not a veteran. But my father was a WW2 combat veteran. 28th Division 112th Regiment Company K. I just saw a commercial on Fox that takes excerpts from Eisenhower's speech to the troops on D Day...you know the "you are about to embarck on the great crusade.. the eyes of the world are upon you." They are equating Michigan vs OSU to war?
What the hell are they thinking? There are thousands of 18 and 19 year old boys buried not far from the beaches of Normandy.
How can anyone with a functioning brain equate a football game to D Day?
What an insult to our greatest generation and everyone who ever risked their lives for our way of life. Someone should lose their job.
Nothing new: Remember in 1986 when PSU played Thug U, aka Miami for the National Title, the Miami team staged a walk-out during the teams meal stating something along the lines of "the Japanese didn't sit down to eat with the enemy:", and Jon Bruno, our punter retorted; "didn't the Japanese lose World War 2"??? It's stupid what the media does, but until these people actually experience being in live combat, they will think that war is a game like they play on Xbox...
 

marshall23

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Nothing new: Remember in 1986 when PSU played Thug U, aka Miami for the National Title, the Miami team staged a walk-out during the teams meal stating something along the lines of "the Japanese didn't sit down to eat with the enemy:", and Jon Bruno, our punter retorted; "didn't the Japanese lose World War 2"??? It's stupid what the media does, but until these people actually experience being in live combat, they will think that war is a game like they play on Xbox...
Sorry, this really upsets me. My Dad fought in The Battle of The Bulge. He never spoke about his experience. But as a child I often heard him scream out it the middle of the night...obviously living with trauma for many years. My uncle lost his leg on the Ludendorff Bridge at age 19. They were the lucky ones. This country is really going to hell, if someone doesn't challenge that promotion.
 

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Sorry, this really upsets me. My Dad fought in The Battle of The Bulge. He never spoke about his experience. But as a child I often heard him scream out it the middle of the night...obviously living with trauma for many years. My uncle lost his leg on the Ludendorff Bridge at age 19. They were the lucky ones. This country is really going to hell, if someone doesn't challenge that promotion.
This is what happens when you consider military actions as a marketing opportunity.
 

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That was my first thought too when I heard the promo. I don’t have the direct connection to WWII that you do, but I thought it was disrespectful. I did have a Great Uncle who was in the Pacific with the Navy.
 
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Nitt1300

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How many times have we heard football players use the “going to war” metaphor? Sadly, the commercial doesn’t surprise me given society’s penchant for overblowing everything.
yep, my mom's family was a Gold Star family and my dad and all of my uncles fought in WW2 everywhere from N. Africa to Berlin and Tokyo, but this kind of thing is no surprise
 

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I'm not a veteran. But my father was a WW2 combat veteran. 28th Division 112th Regiment Company K. I just saw a commercial on Fox that takes excerpts from Eisenhower's speech to the troops on D Day...you know the "you are about to embarck on the great crusade.. the eyes of the world are upon you." They are equating Michigan vs OSU to war?
What the hell are they thinking? There are thousands of 18 and 19 year old boys buried not far from the beaches of Normandy.
How can anyone with a functioning brain equate a football game to D Day?
What an insult to our greatest generation and everyone who ever risked their lives for our way of life. Someone should lose their job.
I totally agree. Comparison of our military to anything else is disgusting. This just shows the insensitivity and stupidity of advertising people and TV execs.
 

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I'm not a veteran. But my father was a WW2 combat veteran. 28th Division 112th Regiment Company K. I just saw a commercial on Fox that takes excerpts from Eisenhower's speech to the troops on D Day...you know the "you are about to embarck on the great crusade.. the eyes of the world are upon you." They are equating Michigan vs OSU to war?
What the hell are they thinking? There are thousands of 18 and 19 year old boys buried not far from the beaches of Normandy.
How can anyone with a functioning brain equate a football game to D Day?
What an insult to our greatest generation and everyone who ever risked their lives for our way of life. Someone should lose their job.
Marshall....
I agree with incredibly little of what you post here regarding football, but I think overall you are a good and decent man.

God bless your father.

I too did not serve, but I loathe people using war metaphors for sports. It is an insult to our veterans, and in this you and I are in lock step.

Happy Thanksgiving, sir.
 

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I'm not a veteran. But my father was a WW2 combat veteran. 28th Division 112th Regiment Company K. I just saw a commercial on Fox that takes excerpts from Eisenhower's speech to the troops on D Day...you know the "you are about to embarck on the great crusade.. the eyes of the world are upon you." They are equating Michigan vs OSU to war?
What the hell are they thinking? There are thousands of 18 and 19 year old boys buried not far from the beaches of Normandy.
How can anyone with a functioning brain equate a football game to D Day?
What an insult to our greatest generation and everyone who ever risked their lives for our way of life. Someone should lose their job.
Absolutely!
 

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I'm not a veteran. But my father was a WW2 combat veteran. 28th Division 112th Regiment Company K. I just saw a commercial on Fox that takes excerpts from Eisenhower's speech to the troops on D Day...you know the "you are about to embarck on the great crusade.. the eyes of the world are upon you." They are equating Michigan vs OSU to war?
What the hell are they thinking? There are thousands of 18 and 19 year old boys buried not far from the beaches of Normandy.
How can anyone with a functioning brain equate a football game to D Day?
What an insult to our greatest generation and everyone who ever risked their lives for our way of life. Someone should lose their job.
My dad was in the third Marine Division and was wounded on Iwo Jima March 6, 1945. Those guys were real men!
 

Ironman2

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Sorry, this really upsets me. My Dad fought in The Battle of The Bulge. He never spoke about his experience. But as a child I often heard him scream out it the middle of the night...obviously living with trauma for many years. My uncle lost his leg on the Ludendorff Bridge at age 19. They were the lucky ones. This country is really going to hell, if someone doesn't challenge that promotion.
You are 100% correct!
 

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Modern day spin - one of my best friends is a PSU Air Force ROTC grad and F16 fighter pilot. He’s flown missions he is unable to talk about in the Middle East. He does not speak of them in any terms and only will say he has had to make decisions that no man should have to make. Those that compare a game, played usually by kids for entertainment, to what he did, are purely ignorant.
 

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My father was in the army of occupation in Japan right after the war, part of the 11th airborne. Just missed action in operation downfall and likely death due to dropping of the A bomb. He was a huge OSU fan, but would have been disgusted by this type of advertising. A football rivalry is nothing like engaging in combat with an enemy that has nothing to lose defending its homeland.
 

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I'm not a veteran. But my father was a WW2 combat veteran. 28th Division 112th Regiment Company K. I just saw a commercial on Fox that takes excerpts from Eisenhower's speech to the troops on D Day...you know the "you are about to embarck on the great crusade.. the eyes of the world are upon you." They are equating Michigan vs OSU to war?
What the hell are they thinking? There are thousands of 18 and 19 year old boys buried not far from the beaches of Normandy.
How can anyone with a functioning brain equate a football game to D Day?
What an insult to our greatest generation and everyone who ever risked their lives for our way of life. Someone should lose their job.
Disgraceful and shows a lack of respect for those who were killed, wounded in action, or were blessed to come home. FOX sports should be ashamed. I won't watch that game.
 

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My dad was in the Korean war. He enlisted in the Coast Guard just before the war started. In times of war, the Coast Guard is essentially annexed to the Navy, so he could have ended up anywhere.

He ended up stationed in Jersey City on the North Atlantic patrol. For years he joked that the Koreans never invaded NYC when he was on patrol. But late in life, he shared with me that he had survivor's remorse because many of his classmates perished in the war and he was patrolling the North Atlantic.

I reassured him that he obviously had no control over where he would be stationed or what his role should be. And that serving in any capacity is the most unselfish thing anyone can do. Yet he said he still had "guilt" about being labeled a Korean War veteran as though it was stolen valor. It bothers me that he took that to his grave.

The vets who served in WW1, WW2, and Korea truly were the greatest generation. (And believe me I'm not slighting any others who served!!!)

Football is not war and that ad struck the same nerve with me that it did with Marshall23.

Stepping down from soapbox.
 

FTLPSU

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Yes equating a game to war is disrespectful...

Why I am jumping Normandy next June…honoring the Greatest Generation.

Lack of work ethic, appreciation, Lot of disconnects, lack of perspectives and flat out ignorance in society…one of u insightful posters mentioned this weeks ago-social media has allowed for our core value breakdowns.

I said this Veterans Day…every one should serve their country in some capacity.
 

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I must say I never have had the visceral reaction exhibited in this thread. But I learned something reading the posts. Thanks to everyone who has sacrificed so much and served. I will take this-on board and try to do better going forward.
 
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BiochemPSU

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I don’t think those soldiers did what they did so OSU or Michigan fans can feel smug after some football game.
 
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I listen to this song every Memorial and Veterans Day. It reminds me who the a true Warriors are.

Thank you to all who served.

 
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psuro

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I don’t think those soldiers did what they did so OSU or Michigan fans can feel smug after some football game.
Your comment is incorrect in the context of this issue - the culprit here is the network -NBC- who wrote, producend and aired the commercial. And they did not do it for the OSU and Michigan fans who are going to watch -they did it for all the fans of other schools as well as the casual CFB fan - to get them to watch the game.
 

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@ marshall23 .... I totally agree !!
Huge difference between playing a football game and catching bullets in the face hitting the beach at Normandy - not even close

Thanks for your post
 
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Your comment is incorrect in the context of this issue - the culprit here is the network -NBC- who wrote, producend and aired the commercial. And they did not do it for the OSU and Michigan fans who are going to watch -they did it for all the fans of other schools as well as the casual CFB fan - to get them to watch the game.
Absolutely.
 

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Your comment is incorrect in the context of this issue - the culprit here is the network -NBC- who wrote, producend and aired the commercial. And they did not do it for the OSU and Michigan fans who are going to watch -they did it for all the fans of other schools as well as the casual CFB fan - to get them to watch the game.
For the record, the promo was on Fox, not NBC.
 
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LionJim

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I must say I never have had the visceral reaction exhibited in this thread. But I learned something reading the posts. Thanks to everyone who has sacrificed so much and served. I will take this-on board and try to do better going forward.
Roger that. The vehemence is a little surprising at first sight but once you ponder it, it makes perfect sense.
 

Catch1lion

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Did they yank this commercial ? ( sounds like the appropriate move) . I haven’t seen it .
 

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Nothing new: Remember in 1986 when PSU played Thug U, aka Miami for the National Title, the Miami team staged a walk-out during the teams meal stating something along the lines of "the Japanese didn't sit down to eat with the enemy:", and Jon Bruno, our punter retorted; "didn't the Japanese lose World War 2"??? It's stupid what the media does, but until these people actually experience being in live combat, they will think that war is a game like they play on Xbox...

I'm not a veteran. But my father was a WW2 combat veteran. 28th Division 112th Regiment Company K. I just saw a commercial on Fox that takes excerpts from Eisenhower's speech to the troops on D Day...you know the "you are about to embarck on the great crusade.. the eyes of the world are upon you." They are equating Michigan vs OSU to war?
What the hell are they thinking? There are thousands of 18 and 19 year old boys buried not far from the beaches of Normandy.
How can anyone with a functioning brain equate a football game to D Day?
What an insult to our greatest generation and everyone who ever risked their lives for our way of life. Someone should lose their job.
I'm a Viet Nam vet, authorized to wear the CIB, and, over the years, have seen and heard comments along the lines of the one you refer to more times than I remember.

At first they caused some real anger, which probably took a decade or so to begin to overcome. To do that, it was necessary to find a way to accept the realization that any statement, made for whatever reason, which compares what goes on in a kids' game played with a ball to what happens during contact with your enemy in a hot war, stems from an ignorant, unthinking, disrespectful, immature naivety on the part of the maker who, in the final analysis -- like every one of us -- represents nothing more than the product of all his yesterdays as a member of an immature-, but hopefully maturing-, society which itself has significant growing up left to do. Will it be given enough time to do that? Who knows? As time passes and my own gets shorter, I increasingly suspect that our society, plus others around the World of which they are all a part, will ultimately force themselves into a position where the only realistic choice left to be made is simple and straightforward: Grow up, now, or blow up. But one thing I am sure of: Trying to settle human differences by killing each other, sometimes on an industrial scale, or "war" for short, is not to be compared with a kids' game. It is simple insanity. No other term for it.
 
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I'm not a veteran. But my father was a WW2 combat veteran. 28th Division 112th Regiment Company K. I just saw a commercial on Fox that takes excerpts from Eisenhower's speech to the troops on D Day...you know the "you are about to embarck on the great crusade.. the eyes of the world are upon you." They are equating Michigan vs OSU to war?
What the hell are they thinking? There are thousands of 18 and 19 year old boys buried not far from the beaches of Normandy.
How can anyone with a functioning brain equate a football game to D Day?
What an insult to our greatest generation and everyone who ever risked their lives for our way of life. Someone should lose their job.
I invaded Iraq in 2003 and did another tour in the sandbox. I just watched a version of this ad, and it didn't bother me. There's a lot more going on around the world to worry about.
 
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