PAC 12 football abolishes divisions. Who’s next?

18IsTheMan

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NCAA new ruling no longer necessitates divisions. PAC 12 will have a conference championship game based on the two teams with the best records. Wonder if other conferences will follow suit.
 
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ACC will be eliminating divisions. Looks like they will be going to a system where you will play every team at least once over the course of 4-5 years.
 

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Being too lazy to look back too far back, I wonder how many years in the SEC the 2 teams with the best record were from the same division. Obviously, in 2010, we wouldn't have made it. 2020 would have been Bama and A&M. Looking over recent years, it seems most of the time the 2 division winners had the best records. A few years, the top team from one division had the same record as the #2 team from the other division, so I guess it would go to overall record at that point.
 

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Might as well mix things up - including the teams everyone plays. With new teams like OU and Texas coming in I think it works out better for the league as a whole if they're playing all over the SEC each year and not just the western portion of the league for the most part.
 
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Might as well mix things up - including the teams everyone plays. With new teams like OU and Texas coming in I think it works out better for the league as a whole if they're playing all over the SEC each year and not just the western portion of the league for the most part.

Agreed. If a team is in the same conference, you should see them more than once every 5 years.
 

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I guess the PAC can do that because they know they will never ever have a chance of getting 2 teams into the 4-team playoff. I think having divisions, and a championship game that features the division champions, increases the odds of the SEC getting 2 teams into the playoff each year.
 

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ACC will be eliminating divisions. Looks like they will be going to a system where you will play every team at least once over the course of 4-5 years.
If leagues had 8 members, you could play everybody in every sport every year.
 

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I guess the PAC can do that because they know they will never ever have a chance of getting 2 teams into the 4-team playoff. I think having divisions, and a championship game that features the division champions, increases the odds of the SEC getting 2 teams into the playoff each year.
CFB is very cyclical so I would not put the "never" label onto any scenario, in addition now with the NIL, teams like USC(w) and Oregon are bound to exploit this new tool exponentially . Those two schools can pour serious amounts of money that most schools can not.
 

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NCAA new ruling no longer necessitates divisions. PAC 12 will have a conference championship game based on the two teams with the best records. Wonder if other conferences will follow suit.
Yes. It creates greater conference championship matchups.
 

Harvard Gamecock

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ACC will be eliminating divisions. Looks like they will be going to a system where you will play every team at least once over the course of 4-5 years.
They're going to a 3-5-5 scheduling model in which league teams would play three permanent opponents, then rotate through the rest over a two-year period (five one year, five the next).
This would mean teams will play each other more frequently, as opposed to in some instances every 5 years from another division. Personally I like this model much better than the division model. If the SEC adopts the pods, I could see this being the same type of scheduling model.
 
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They're going to a 3-5-5 scheduling model in which league teams would play three permanent opponents, then rotate through the rest over a two-year period (five one year, five the next).
This would mean teams will play each other more frequently, as opposed to in some instances every 5 years from another division. Personally I like this model much better than the division model. If the SEC adopts the pods, I could see this being the same type of scheduling model.

I like this better too. Would like to see more conferences do it.

It always seemed odd to me to not play a conference foe for years on end. It was almost like two conferences already.
 

Uscg1984

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CFB is very cyclical so I would not put the "never" label onto any scenario, in addition now with the NIL, teams like USC(w) and Oregon are bound to exploit this new tool exponentially . Those two schools can pour serious amounts of money that most schools can not.
Regardless, my point is that doing away with the divisions and pitting the top two teams against each other in the championship game will, more often than not, decrease their odds of getting two teams into a four-team playoff. If your two best teams enter that game as playoff contenders, it's likely that only one will emerge.
 

KingWard

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They're going to a 3-5-5 scheduling model in which league teams would play three permanent opponents, then rotate through the rest over a two-year period (five one year, five the next).
This would mean teams will play each other more frequently, as opposed to in some instances every 5 years from another division. Personally I like this model much better than the division model. If the SEC adopts the pods, I could see this being the same type of scheduling model.
Very readily.
 

Harvard Gamecock

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MWC just announced they are doing away with Divisional play starting in 2023.
Like it or not, it's happening.
 

KingWard

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Unless I misread, I think some on this board are not happy about it.
I am on the record of being in favor of this new development, for several reasons.
I don't understand any ire over this. Let the two teams proven to be the best over the season play for championships.
 

Lurker123

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I don't understand any ire over this. Let the two teams proven to be the best over the season play for championships.

The only real negative I could see for some people is that in some years (if the playoffs stay at 4 teams), the second team from a conference may be eliminated by a championship game they wouldn't have had to play in normally.

Personally, I kind of think that's another positive.
 

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The only real negative I could see for some people is that in some years (if the playoffs stay at 4 teams), the second team from a conference may be eliminated by a championship game they wouldn't have had to play in normally.

Personally, I kind of think that's another positive.
It's possible. Still better to have your proven two best teams playing for your league championship.
 
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