Penn State’s path to the acc: Relegation?

[BobPSU92]

Many here still want to see PSU ditch the b1g and head to the acc. With the ncaa’s future in doubt, there has been talk of the formation of a SUPER. CONFERENCE. . What if that happens and college football adopts relegation, like European FUTBOL. ?

If a 16-team SUPER. CONFERENCE. were to form, there is a good chance that PSU would be INCLUDED. . In that case, perhaps a patented 7-6 season could get PSU relegated. Maybe then, we could be relegated to the acc, or whatever is left of it. If we continued to finish 7-6, or maybe even worse, we could remain in the acc, or whatever is left of it.

Problem solved.

The future of college football is complicated and uncertain, but all PSU needs is a little creativity and continued mediocrity to get what we all want and need.

 

[Got GSPs]

I do like the idea of relegation

 

[pap]

Many here still want to see PSU ditch the b1g and head to the acc. With the ncaa’s future in doubt, there has been talk of the formation of a SUPER. CONFERENCE. . What if that happens and college football adopts relegation, like European FUTBOL. ?

If a 16-team SUPER. CONFERENCE. were to form, there is a good chance that PSU would be INCLUDED. . In that case, perhaps a patented 7-6 season could get PSU relegated. Maybe then, we could be relegated to the acc, or whatever is left of it. If we continued to finish 7-6, or maybe even worse, we could remain in the acc, or whatever is left of it.

Problem solved.

The future of college football is complicated and uncertain, but all PSU needs is a little creativity and continued mediocrity to get what we all want and need.

Penn State is not leaving the conference t all Get that out of peoples heads now If there are any changes it will be to a super conference of some sorts , if it happens But PSU is never leaving the big ten for the ACC

 

[TiogaLion]

Many here still want to see PSU ditch the b1g and head to the acc. With the ncaa’s future in doubt, there has been talk of the formation of a SUPER. CONFERENCE. . What if that happens and college football adopts relegation, like European FUTBOL. ?

If a 16-team SUPER. CONFERENCE. were to form, there is a good chance that PSU would be INCLUDED. . In that case, perhaps a patented 7-6 season could get PSU relegated. Maybe then, we could be relegated to the acc, or whatever is left of it. If we continued to finish 7-6, or maybe even worse, we could remain in the acc, or whatever is left of it.

Problem solved.

The future of college football is complicated and uncertain, but all PSU needs is a little creativity and continued mediocrity to get what we all want and need.

We've got the right coach to make it work.

 

[LionsMD]

Many here still want to see PSU ditch the b1g and head to the acc. With the ncaa’s future in doubt, there has been talk of the formation of a SUPER. CONFERENCE. . What if that happens and college football adopts relegation, like European FUTBOL. ?

If a 16-team SUPER. CONFERENCE. were to form, there is a good chance that PSU would be INCLUDED. . In that case, perhaps a patented 7-6 season could get PSU relegated. Maybe then, we could be relegated to the acc, or whatever is left of it. If we continued to finish 7-6, or maybe even worse, we could remain in the acc, or whatever is left of it.

Problem solved.

The future of college football is complicated and uncertain, but all PSU needs is a little creativity and continued mediocrity to get what we all want and need.

1) Penn State is not leaving the Big Ten
2) Penn State will not be included in the 16 Team conference because we are not that good. Take off your blue sunglasses because OSU, Michigan, and Michigan State would be taken ahead of us, maybe even Wisconsin.

 

[psuro]

1) Penn State is not leaving the Big Ten
2) Penn State will not be included in the 16 Team conference because we are not that good. Take off your blue sunglasses because OSU, Michigan, and Michigan State would be taken ahead of us, maybe even Wisconsin.

Considering the revenue PSU brings in, I disagree with your statement. It will be the money that makes the conference.

And before you go off the rails, remember that Bob's original post was based on a assumption. None of the chatter on this is meaningful or meant to be taken seriously.

 

[Alphabets]

Another reason why football (soccer) is the greatest sport on the planet. It is structured in the ultimate "F around and find out" fashion. You literally get kicked out of the league if you suck. It's just brilliant. The bottom feeders do not continually get a pass and an even share of revenues. In turn, they lose contract and TV revenues, sponsorship dollars, players, coaches, staffing, etc etc when relegated. Then, the real battle begins to fight your way back into the league.

 

[BobPSU92]

1) Penn State is not leaving the Big Ten
2) Penn State will not be included in the 16 Team conference because we are not that good. Take off your blue sunglasses because OSU, Michigan, and Michigan State would be taken ahead of us, maybe even Wisconsin.

Great. So we can head straight to the acc, or whatever is left of it. Even easier.

 

[BobPSU92]

And before you go off the rails, remember that Bob's original post was based on a assumption. None of the chatter on this is meaningful or meant to be taken seriously.

People laugh at taking me seriously.

 

[Nohow]

Should have gone to the ACC instead of the B10.

 

[Midnighter]

The best 'model' for competition in the US is the NFL. It has worked extremely hard to become the most balanced, fair league in pro sports. Every team has the same salary cap. The better teams usually get harder schedules and of course, lower draft positions. Poor teams are rewarded with higher draft picks. In the past 10 years, 13 different NFL teams have appeared in Super Bowls, and there have been nine different winners. Compare that to the College Football National Championship Game since the CFP was established (eight years ago) and you have six (five of the six have won a National Championship) different participants. So, the NFL in the past ten years has had 40% of it's teams play in a Super Bowl, and College Football has had about 4.5% (130 total D1 teams). And these same six teams all get the best players year after year. It's boring.

 

[psuro]

The best 'model' for competition in the US is the NFL. It has worked extremely hard to become the most balanced, fair league in pro sports. Every team has the same salary cap. The better teams usually get harder schedules and of course, lower draft positions. Poor teams are rewarded with higher draft picks. In the past 10 years, 13 different NFL teams have appeared in Super Bowls, and there have been nine different winners. Compare that to the College Football National Championship Game since the CFP was established (eight years ago) and you have six (five of the six have won a National Championship) different participants. So, the NFL in the past ten years has had 40% of it's teams play in a Super Bowl, and College Football has had about 4.5% (130 total D1 teams). And these same six teams all get the best players year after year. It's boring.

I don't disagree that the NFL has the best competive system.

But, how do you tell a kid that he cannot go to Alabama or Georgia or Clemson because they have won too many games and are too good? Recruiting is a seller's market, the draft is a buyer's market.

In order to get more competitive balance, a few things must change but I doubt recruiting will be one of them.

 

[Thorndike2021]

I agree that the NFL is possibly the most balanced 'league' out there. The NHL has a similar model and is also pretty balanced.

The problem with comparing these to NCAACF is that they are dedicated leagues and the NCAACF 'system' is not. And the NCAACF system functions pretty well, with traditions, independents, football conferences, scheduling, TV deals and revenue, etc., until you try to bring it all together to crown a champion.

I actually think the closest thing that would make sense is how college basketball resolves the championship problem. Everyone gets one less regular season game and the top 64 teams are entered into a single elimination tournament. Lots of smaller programs get exposure and a chance to build. You'll always have your Alabamas or Dukes, but there's also always a team that catches lightening in a bottle and scores a big upset or two, and gets a ton of positive exposure. Maybe Jackson State makes it to the Elite Eight. It would be the most watched tournament in the US immediately.

 

[BobPSU92]

I don't disagree that the NFL has the best competive system.

But, how do you tell a kid that he cannot go to Alabama or Georgia or Clemson because they have won too many games and are too good? Recruiting is a seller's market, the draft is a buyer's market.

In order to get more competitive balance, a few things must change but I doubt recruiting will be one of them.

I liked it better when Joe got the commitment because he complimented mom’s psghetti and promised mom that her boy would get a good education.

 

[Midnighter]

I don't disagree that the NFL has the best competive system.

But, how do you tell a kid that he cannot go to Alabama or Georgia or Clemson because they have won too many games and are too good? Recruiting is a seller's market, the draft is a buyer's market.

In order to get more competitive balance, a few things must change but I doubt recruiting will be one of them.

I never meant to imply you could fix it; but if recruiting doesn’t change, neither will the product.

 

[psuro]

I never meant to imply you could fix it; but if recruiting doesn’t change, neither will the product.

Well, with NIL I would say recruiting has changed. It made it even more of a seller's market.

 

[Pennst8]

Many here still want to see PSU ditch the b1g and head to the acc. With the ncaa’s future in doubt, there has been talk of the formation of a SUPER. CONFERENCE. . What if that happens and college football adopts relegation, like European FUTBOL. ?

If a 16-team SUPER. CONFERENCE. were to form, there is a good chance that PSU would be INCLUDED. . In that case, perhaps a patented 7-6 season could get PSU relegated. Maybe then, we could be relegated to the acc, or whatever is left of it. If we continued to finish 7-6, or maybe even worse, we could remain in the acc, or whatever is left of it.

Problem solved.

The future of college football is complicated and uncertain, but all PSU needs is a little creativity and continued mediocrity to get what we all want and need.

I guess the whiners don't have anything to do on this holiday weekend.

 

[BobPSU92]

I guess the whiners don't have anything to do on this holiday weekend.

So you’re a whiner. Got it.

 

[step.eng69]

Considering the revenue PSU brings in, I disagree with your statement. It will be the money that makes the conference.

And before you go off the rails, remember that Bob's original post was based on a assumption. None of the chatter on this is meaningful or meant to be taken seriously.

rememer that Bob's original post was based on a assumption

 

[Tom_PSU]

Considering the revenue PSU brings in, I disagree with your statement. It will be the money that makes the conference.

And before you go off the rails, remember that Bob's original post was based on a assumption. None of the chatter on this is meaningful or meant to be taken seriously.

Nothing Bob says should ever be taken seriously.

 

[psuro]

Nothing Bob says should ever be taken seriously.

Especially lattes and scones.

 

[GrimReaper]

Should have gone to the ACC instead of the B10.

Groucho would have had a lot of fun with that one.

 

[psuro]

Groucho would have had a lot of fun with that one.

It would been like Duck Soup!

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

I liked it better when Joe got the commitment because he complimented mom’s psghetti and promised mom that her boy would get a good education.

Those days are long gone.

 

[BobPSU92]

Especially lattes and scones.

Wrong. I am serious about lattes and scones.

 

[BobPSU92]

Those days are long gone.

Yup. Now it’s like, “Coach, you feed us, we don’t feed you. And don’t talk to me about education. What car will my boy be driving?”

 

[JohnJumba]

By joining the ACC, we would be enabling Pitt and smelling their pharts.

Bob has said many times he doesn't want to enable Pitt, nor smell their methane ever again.

That's how I know he's playing.

 

[leinbacker]

Those days are long gone.

It’s now about sleepovers

 

[BobPSU92]

By joining the ACC, we would be enabling Pitt and smelling their pharts.

Bob has said many times he doesn't want to enable Pitt, nor smell their methane ever again.

That's how I know he's playing.

Incorrect. pitt will be a fixture in the SUPER. CONFERENCE. . They’re poised to parlay kenny small-hands’ success into a dynasty.

 

[JohnJumba]

Incorrect. pitt will be a fixture in the SUPER. CONFERENCE. . They’re poised to parlay kenny small-hands’ success into a dynasty.

 

[contentphillydad]

Pitt record last 4 years :
32-20

Penn State record last 4 years:
31-17

OSU record last 4 years:
44-5

We are a heck of a lot more like Pitt ( they might have the better coach in Nardogg, but we draw 107,000 a game and they only draw 20,000+ on a good Saturday) than we are like OSU

 

[BUFFALO LION]

I don't disagree that the NFL has the best competive system.

But, how do you tell a kid that he cannot go to Alabama or Georgia or Clemson because they have won too many games and are too good? Recruiting is a seller's market, the draft is a buyer's market.

In order to get more competitive balance, a few things must change but I doubt recruiting will be one of them.

You tell them by drafting them like the NFL.

If they unionize like they want, you make them a separate taxable entity of the University. If they get drafted by Penn State and have to play here, they can either academically qualify and pay for a degree like REAL students, or they can go on line and pay for a degree somewhere else.

Unionizing will allow them to get “their fair share” of the Media Revenue, ticket sales, and donor/NIL money. General University funds will be left alone, student activity fees will be eliminated for intercollegiate sports, and maybe some of those General University funds earmarked for football and basketball players can now go towards promising chemists and engineers.

 

[psuro]

You tell them by drafting them like the NFL.

If they unionize like they want, you make them a separate taxable entity of the University. If they get drafted by Penn State and have to play here, they can either academically qualify and pay for a degree like REAL students, or they can go on line and pay for a degree somewhere else.

Unionizing will allow them to get “their fair share” of the Media Revenue, ticket sales, and donor/NIL money. General University funds will be left alone, student activity fees will be eliminated for intercollegiate sports, and maybe some of those General University funds earmarked for football and basketball players can now go towards promising chemists and engineers.

Yeah they are not going to unionize.

 

[Bob78]

Groucho would have had a lot of fun with that one.

I presume this references his "I would never join a club...." line.
Probably my - and many people's - favorite Groucho line, but I would guess some reading here do not know the reference. (Or who Groucho was)!

 

[BobPSU92]

I presume this references his "I would never join a club...." line.
Probably my - and many people's - favorite Groucho line, but I would guess some reading here do not know the reference. (Or who Groucho was)!

Wasn‘t he that famous communist?

 

[Bob78]

Wasn‘t he that famous communist?

Father's side cousin, once removed. True fact*. You could look it up, as Casey Stengel woulda said, quoting James Thurber. Or vice versa.
It's complicated.

*Narrator: This is, in fact, not a true fact.

 

[BrucePa]

Let's see.....take good recruiting classes and coach them to 11-11 the last two years....who wants that in any super conference?

 

[PSU_Nut]

1) Penn State is not leaving the Big Ten
2) Penn State will not be included in the 16 Team conference because we are not that good. Take off your blue sunglasses because OSU, Michigan, and Michigan State would be taken ahead of us, maybe even Wisconsin.

Do you really think teams would be selected based on how good their team is? It pretty naïve of you to think that. Like all decisions it all about money and in no way would Michigan State or Wisconsin be taken ahead of Penn State.

 

[GrimReaper]

I presume this references his "I would never join a club...." line.
Probably my - and many people's - favorite Groucho line, but I would guess some reading here do not know the reference. (Or who Groucho was)!

No surprise. Lotta folks here don't know about Portnoy's Complaint. Doubt that many recall the ACC's expansion foibles after PSU joined the Big Ten. Throw PSU into that admixture and it creates possibilities ripe for the application of Groucho's comment.

 

[Nits74]

Nothing Bob says should ever be taken seriously.

Once in a while he varies from that persona. When he chooses to do so, he makes many good points.