This alumnus to Board "Leadership": You first.
Relax. Good god. Constant BOT whining is exhausting.
Especially considering that they can simply outvote whatever the provocative trustees bring to vote or even discussion by at least about 25-9 or so. They just don't even want to hear other ideas outside of closed doors within a loaded committee.On the one hand, I'm not stunned at all that a fundamentally provocative alumni trustee has provoked a strong reaction from the powers on the BOT. On the other hand, that's quite a draconian action from the Gray Men.
Exhausting? Perhaps. Necessary? Absolutely.Relax. Good god. Constant BOT whining is exhausting.
Did the title of the thread confuse you?Relax. Good god. Constant BOT whining is exhausting.
If only he could have been there.How do you think Matt would have voted?
How do you think Matt would have voted?
Sorry for the delayed response.How do you think Matt would have voted?
Nonsense. Joe get's fired and a bunch of old crankies will never forgive.Exhausting? Perhaps. Necessary? Absolutely.
This current crap fest with the BOTS has nothing to do with Joe.Nonsense. Joe get's fired and a bunch of old crankies will never forgive.
Joe's dead. This has nothing to do with Joe. I made my peace with that a long time ago. This has a lot to do with democracy and how a *state* university is supposed to be run. I'm half tempted to mail my degree back. Because, I likely am "not their kind of person". The whole point of Penn State was to be an elite education for the sons and daughters of coal miners, steel workers, farmers and the average citizen of the Commonwealth. Not a crappy education for elitists. But that is what it is becoming.Nonsense. Joe get's fired and a bunch of old crankies will never forgive.
Joe's dead. This has nothing to do with Joe. I made my peace with that a long time ago. This has a lot to do with democracy and how a *state* university is supposed to be run. I'm half tempted to mail my degree back. Because, I likely am "not their kind of person". The whole point of Penn State was to be an elite education for the sons and daughters of coal miners, steel workers, farmers and the average citizen of the Commonwealth. Not a crappy education for elitists. But that is what it is becoming
Joe's dead. This has nothing to do with Joe. I made my peace with that a long time ago. This has a lot to do with democracy and how a *state* university is supposed to be run. I'm half tempted to mail my degree back. Because, I likely am "not their kind of person". The whole point of Penn State was to be an elite education for the sons and daughters of coal miners, steel workers, farmers and the average citizen of the Commonwealth. Not a crappy education for elitists. But that is what it is becoming.
BTW, as far as I know, I never got a BOT election ballot..... And I've been voting for years and never changed my address.
Your statement tells me you are clueless as to reasons behind the Alumni unrest over the Board of Trustees. The growing consensus is that we have the worst Board in the BigTen. Your efforts to explain it away as Paterno based are not grounded in reality. So be it.Nonsense. Joe get's fired and a bunch of old crankies will never forgive.
Some can't fathom that the displeasure of others has little or nothing to do with Joe, but rather the way PSU is run. Perhaps the only good thing that came out of Sandusky is that more people are paying attention.This current crap fest with the BOTS has nothing to do with Joe.
You should read more and whine less.![]()
whaaaaaaaaaaaaYour statement tells me you are clueless as to reasons behind the Alumni unrest over the Board of Trustees. The growing consensus is that we have the worst Board in the BigTen. Your efforts to explain it away as Paterno based are not grounded in reality. So be it.
Exhausting![]()
Absolutely, this recent power play by the BOTS, has nothing at all to do with Joe or the way many of us or any of us feel or think about him. Why some don't understand that is either being willfully ignorant or a mouth piece for the current set of cow patties that occupy chairs.
Dude, you’re such a dumb ***. Who are you related to on the board?whaaaaaaaaaaaa
I’m guessing that at least part of your perspective is based on an antipathy towards Barry Fenchak. But you can dislike Barry and/or his methods all you like and still recognize that what the Board has done is destructive to the university and a slap in the face to alumni. I’ve yet to see any argument that this is a good thing, something that will strengthen Penn State.whaaaaaaaaaaaa
Come on if you are going to troll especially in favor of the BOT at least put a little effort into it and don't mail it in....Nonsense. Joe get's fired and a bunch of old crankies will never forgive.
Extremely well said...I don't understand how it would ever be a good thing for a committee to determine who is/isn't qualified to serve as an Alum Trustee, rather than the thousands that are voting in the election.I’m guessing that at least part of your perspective is based on an antipathy towards Barry Fenchak. But you can dislike Barry and/or his methods all you like and still recognize that what the Board has done is destructive to the university and a slap in the face to alumni. I’ve yet to see any argument that this is a good thing, something that will strengthen Penn State.
Spot on... the BOT is an oversized tick the size of a grape that has been sucking on a overweight St Bernard for many years and the BOT is hoping that Harrisburg doesn't see the waste and cut the size of the BOT in half or more.....Joe's dead. This has nothing to do with Joe. I made my peace with that a long time ago. This has a lot to do with democracy and how a *state* university is supposed to be run. I'm half tempted to mail my degree back. Because, I likely am "not their kind of person". The whole point of Penn State was to be an elite education for the sons and daughters of coal miners, steel workers, farmers and the average citizen of the Commonwealth. Not a crappy education for elitists. But that is what it is becoming.
BTW, as far as I know, I never got a BOT election ballot..... And I've been voting for years and never changed my address.
The expression "youth is wasted on the young" comes to mind with his responses in this thread.Your statement tells me you are clueless as to reasons behind the Alumni unrest over the Board of Trustees. The growing consensus is that we have the worst Board in the BigTen. Your efforts to explain it away as Paterno based are not grounded in reality. So be it.
FYI - But for a group of crankies on this board, no one gives a rats arse. The sky is not falling.Come on if you are going to troll especially in favor of the BOT at least put a little effort into it and don't mail it in....
Yes. I dislike Barry and his methods.I’m guessing that at least part of your perspective is based on an antipathy towards Barry Fenchak. But you can dislike Barry and/or his methods all you like and still recognize that what the Board has done is destructive to the university and a slap in the face to alumni. I’ve yet to see any argument that this is a good thing, something that will strengthen Penn State.
I like Franklin. I think Sandusky is a child rapist and I think our university and board are just fine. That's who I'm related to. A group on here feel the opposite and it bugs me.Dude, you’re such a dumb ***. Who are you related to on the board?
So, did Short or Nassib give any reason for voting to approve? Were they interviewed by any publications after the meeting? Did any of the other alumni elected trustees question them? What’s in it for them to vote to approve?
Look, I’m not a big fan of the BOT in general and much of that is to blame on the size and construct which was put in place by the PA General Assembly. I really do wish that some of the reform efforts by legislators after the Sandusky scandal were actually pursued as I don’t think we’d be having this conversation right now. Having said that, it is sad that a majority of alumni not only don’t vote in the alumni elections, but pay no attention to BOT activities. As such, as much as Barry and others are outraged about this most recent action, most alumni don’t care and will never know.I’m guessing that at least part of your perspective is based on an antipathy towards Barry Fenchak. But you can dislike Barry and/or his methods all you like and still recognize that what the Board has done is destructive to the university and a slap in the face to alumni. I’ve yet to see any argument that this is a good thing, something that will strengthen Penn State.
Agreed. You are.Exhausting
And what does ANY of that have to do with the subject of this thread?I like Franklin. I think Sandusky is a child rapist and I think our university and board are just fine. That's who I'm related to. A group on here feel the opposite and it bugs me.