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Cadcock

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QB - A+++ One of the best SC QB performance I’ve seen. Shaw, Tanneyhill etc. at their best would have looked bad last night. Rattler is a better QB than Drake Maye and Drake is an excellent QB
RB - F We don’t have a RB1 or RB2, how is this possible
OLine- F—- Slow footed and poorly prepared, best player was Yale transfer. Worst Oline play I’ve seen at SC in 30+ years
TE - C+ Showed signs of good potential, probably going to be blocking the rest of the year
WR - B+ Good separation, with 2 drops. Looking better than last year and that is without our All SEC leading receiver

LB - B- Saw good vision and recognition skills, need to play faster. Running QB’s are going to hurt us
DLine - D- Got pushed around up front, no pass rush difference makers. Made the secondary look worse than they played
DB - B- Lots of talented young players who will get better. Missing our best player didn’t help

We will get better but so will the competition. We will face multiple teams with much better lines and most teams will have better secondaries, WR’s and RB’s than NC.

We will need to max protect and air it out to win going forward. We have to keep Rattler healthy AT ALL COSTS.
 
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I would split the DBs into 2 groups. I’d put CBS at a D and safety at a B. You hate to put it on one guy, but Nelson was absolutely abused on 2 TDs. One was a 50/50 toss up in one of the only times get pressure on Maye. Nelson never even turned around. The other he let the WR get about 5 yards behind him for a TD.

As bad as the lines and the running game were, this game comes down to a few plays.
 

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I would split the DBs into 2 groups. I’d put CBS at a D and safety at a B. You hate to put it on one guy, but Nelson was absolutely abused on 2 TDs. One was a 50/50 toss up in one of the only times get pressure on Maye. Nelson never even turned around. The other he let the WR get about 5 yards behind him for a TD.

As bad as the lines and the running game were, this game comes down to a few plays.
I was going to reply with something similar on the DB's.
 

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I agree that Rattler turned in a great performance. With the pocket collapsing literally every snap he still found people to throw to, though he did miss at least one wide open man while under duress. UNC's QB was rolling out even when there was no pressure from our defense. Why couldn't someone have had Rattler doing that more when it's suicide to stand in the pocket?
 
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I would split the DBs into 2 groups. I’d put CBS at a D and safety at a B. You hate to put it on one guy, but Nelson was absolutely abused on 2 TDs. One was a 50/50 toss up in one of the only times get pressure on Maye. Nelson never even turned around. The other he let the WR get about 5 yards behind him for a TD.

As bad as the lines and the running game were, this game comes down to a few plays.
DQ Smith got whooped a few times as well though. Not sure if it was from his safety or nickel position. Jalon Kilgore played a great game considering Hes a true freshman
 
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I would split the DBs into 2 groups. I’d put CBS at a D and safety at a B. You hate to put it on one guy, but Nelson was absolutely abused on 2 TDs. One was a 50/50 toss up in one of the only times get pressure on Maye. Nelson never even turned around. The other he let the WR get about 5 yards behind him for a TD.

As bad as the lines and the running game were, this game comes down to a few plays.
Our Offensive and Defensive Lines were man handled. We played well on 1st and 2nd Downs but we continously allowed them to complete passes on 3rd down.
 

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QB - A+++ One of the best SC QB performance I’ve seen. Shaw, Tanneyhill etc. at their best would have looked bad last night. Rattler is a better QB than Drake Maye and Drake is an excellent QB
RB - F We don’t have a RB1 or RB2, how is this possible
OLine- F—- Slow footed and poorly prepared, best player was Yale transfer. Worst Oline play I’ve seen at SC in 30+ years
TE - C+ Showed signs of good potential, probably going to be blocking the rest of the year
WR - B+ Good separation, with 2 drops. Looking better than last year and that is without our All SEC leading receiver

LB - B- Saw good vision and recognition skills, need to play faster. Running QB’s are going to hurt us
DLine - D- Got pushed around up front, no pass rush difference makers. Made the secondary look worse than they played
DB - B- Lots of talented young players who will get better. Missing our best player didn’t help

We will get better but so will the competition. We will face multiple teams with much better lines and most teams will have better secondaries, WR’s and RB’s than NC.

We will need to max protect and air it out to win going forward. We have to keep Rattler healthy AT ALL COSTS.
Good rundown. No arguments from me. Especially with RB...how is this possible?
 
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I would split the DBs into 2 groups. I’d put CBS at a D and safety at a B. You hate to put it on one guy, but Nelson was absolutely abused on 2 TDs. One was a 50/50 toss up in one of the only times get pressure on Maye. Nelson never even turned around. The other he let the WR get about 5 yards behind him for a TD.

As bad as the lines and the running game were, this game comes down to a few plays.
I’m not sure that I saw a completion on Dial all night, OD had a pick and some really good tackles. A lot of the completion by Maye came from our Nickel or linebackers on zone plays
 
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I’m not sure that I saw a completion on Dial all night, OD had a pick and some really good tackles. A lot of the completion by Maye came from our Nickel or linebackers on zone plays
OD made the play and deserves credit for that. But that was a pressure pick. The WR had a good 4 yards on him coming out of his break. Maye was pressured and that allowed OD to close. He made the play. But had we not gotten pressure that could have been a big gainer.
 
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Bubba Fett

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QB - A+++ One of the best SC QB performance I’ve seen. Shaw, Tanneyhill etc. at their best would have looked bad last night. Rattler is a better QB than Drake Maye and Drake is an excellent QB
RB - F We don’t have a RB1 or RB2, how is this possible
OLine- F—- Slow footed and poorly prepared, best player was Yale transfer. Worst Oline play I’ve seen at SC in 30+ years
TE - C+ Showed signs of good potential, probably going to be blocking the rest of the year
WR - B+ Good separation, with 2 drops. Looking better than last year and that is without our All SEC leading receiver

LB - B- Saw good vision and recognition skills, need to play faster. Running QB’s are going to hurt us
DLine - D- Got pushed around up front, no pass rush difference makers. Made the secondary look worse than they played
DB - B- Lots of talented young players who will get better. Missing our best player didn’t help

We will get better but so will the competition. We will face multiple teams with much better lines and most teams will have better secondaries, WR’s and RB’s than NC.

We will need to max protect and air it out to win going forward. We have to keep Rattler healthy AT ALL COSTS.
Good take.
 

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Agree about Rattler. He was fantastic last night. That he was under duress on virtually every single snap, yet he didn't make any big mistakes and still managed a 73% completion percentage, is downright phenomenal. He outplayed Maye.

I would give RB and OL an F--------------. They were bad. Shockingly bad.
 
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Agree about Rattler. He was fantastic last night. That he was under duress on virtually every single snap, yet he didn't make any big mistakes and still managed a 73% completion percentage, is downright phenomenal. He outplayed Maye.

I would give RB and OL an F--------------. They were bad. Shockingly bad.
WRs were not that good. One player was good. Brown missed a needed easy first down by short arming a pass. It was shockingly bad and we needed to keep the ball. We go to him because he is fast but he just lacks physicality. Rattler throwas balls that great receivers could catch. His arm is electric but the wrs are not. None of the young receivers have shown up at all. Where is Samson or Blake? Second years guys who don’t seem physically up to the task. Long long year ahead.
 

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WRs were not that good. One player was good. Brown missed a needed easy first down by short arming a pass. It was shockingly bad and we needed to keep the ball. We go to him because he is fast but he just lacks physicality. Rattler throwas balls that great receivers could catch. His arm is electric but the wrs are not. None of the young receivers have shown up at all. Where is Samson or Blake? Second years guys who don’t seem physically up to the task. Long long year ahead.
If Wells comes back full strength in the next two weeks we may be ok. If not, I agree.

Leggett, Wells and Doty appear to be our top 3. Brown should be able to help.
 

Living1512

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QB - A+++ One of the best SC QB performance I
QB - A+++ One of the best SC QB performance I’ve seen. Shaw, Tanneyhill etc. at their best would have looked bad last night. Rattler is a better QB than Drake Maye and Drake is an excellent QB
RB - F We don’t have a RB1 or RB2, how is this possible
OLine- F—- Slow footed and poorly prepared, best player was Yale transfer. Worst Oline play I’ve seen at SC in 30+ years
TE - C+ Showed signs of good potential, probably going to be blocking the rest of the year
WR - B+ Good separation, with 2 drops. Looking better than last year and that is without our All SEC leading receiver

LB - B- Saw good vision and recognition skills, need to play faster. Running QB’s are going to hurt us
DLine - D- Got pushed around up front, no pass rush difference makers. Made the secondary look worse than they played
DB - B- Lots of talented young players who will get better. Missing our best player didn’t help

We will get better but so will the competition. We will face multiple teams with much better lines and most teams will have better secondaries, WR’s and RB’s than NC.

We will need to max protect and air it out to win going forward. We have to keep Rattler healthy AT ALL COSTS.
Agree with one tiny exception...I'd give the oline and rb's a G as an F seems to kind. Seriously though that line play was the worst I've seen in a gamecock team in a really long time...reckon their historically bad.
 

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WRs were not that good. One player was good. Brown missed a needed easy first down by short arming a pass. It was shockingly bad and we needed to keep the ball. We go to him because he is fast but he just lacks physicality. Rattler throwas balls that great receivers could catch. His arm is electric but the wrs are not. None of the young receivers have shown up at all. Where is Samson or Blake? Second years guys who don’t seem physically up to the task. Long long year ahead.
That was a brutal drop. Rattler could not have walked it over and placed it in his hands any better.
 

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If Wells comes back full strength in the next two weeks we may be ok. If not, I agree.

Leggett, Wells and Doty appear to be our top 3. Brown should be able to help.
Brown is so much better than Doty. He made a bad play. He also had a nice night, and has explosiveness that Doty lacks.
 

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Brown is so much better than Doty. He made a bad play. He also had a nice night, and has explosiveness that Doty lacks.
He needs to show it. I have seen several good plays out of Brown in two years. Explosiveness is great if you can consistently catch the ball. In addition, Doty is more of a slot guy. Brown is an outside guy.
 

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He needs to show it. I have seen several good plays out of Brown in two years. Explosiveness is great if you can consistently catch the ball. In addition, Doty is more of a slot guy. Brown is an outside guy.
AB is a slot guy. They play the same position. He's a very good #3 WR.
 
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If we’re relying on Doty as the #3 WR going forward, we’re in much worse shape than we all thought.
I'm with you but I think it's the reality of the situation. I'm not suggesting Doty is a great receiver. It doesn't appear Rattler has confidence in any of our receivers outside of Wells and X.

With Wells out, who is our #2 and #3 receiver?
 

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If we’re relying on Doty as the #3 WR going forward, we’re in much worse shape than we all thought.

Goodness, it sounds like we're in a mess. I did not realize Doty had 3 catches in the game.

How many P5 schools have a QB-turned-WR playing at RB and their current backup QB playing WR?

It does not sound like a recipe for success.
 

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Goodness, it sounds like we're in a mess. I did not realize Doty had 3 catches in the game.

How many P5 schools have a QB-turned-WR playing at RB and their current backup QB playing WR?

It does not sound like a recipe for success.
Stepp needs to do something. Juice, X, and AB are all SRs. The fact that Doty is stealing snaps from everyone else he recruited is nonsense. Everyone is giddy about the OL/DL/QB recruiting, and rightfully so. But who is the QB going to throw to?? He's either missing on evals, or failing to develop depth. Either way, it's not good. The outlook for the WR room and RB is bleak. Both of those coaches should be very uncomfortable right now.
 

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I'm with you but I think it's the reality of the situation. I'm not suggesting Doty is a great receiver. It doesn't appear Rattler has confidence in any of our receivers outside of Wells and X.

With Wells out, who is our #2 and #3 receiver?
Beamer/Stepp have a handful of WRs they've brought in on scholarship. It's their job to make sure this crap doesn't happen. My point was, with a healthy Juice there is ZERO chance Doty is the #3 over AB. The fact that Doty is emerging as the first off the bench is a joke...no offense to the young man.
 

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Beamer/Stepp have a handful of WRs they've brought in on scholarship. It's their job to make sure this crap doesn't happen. My point was, with a healthy Juice there is ZERO chance Doty is the #3 over AB. The fact that Doty is emerging as the first off the bench is a joke...no offense to the young man.
If AB can catch the ball consistently, i agree. If he struggles it's going to be Doty. Not sure i agree with the Zero chance.
 

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If AB can catch the ball consistently, i agree. If he struggles it's going to be Doty. Not sure i agree with the Zero chance.
Well, yeah. If AB develops a case of the drops he's not playing. That's a given. It's just wild that we're even having this discussion.
 

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Beamer/Stepp have a handful of WRs they've brought in on scholarship. It's their job to make sure this crap doesn't happen. My point was, with a healthy Juice there is ZERO chance Doty is the #3 over AB. The fact that Doty is emerging as the first off the bench is a joke...no offense to the young man.
You sure about that?