Potential Penalties for “Opting Out”?

[Cocky Hobbit]

Since the advent of NIL has made everything about contracts… why can’t a college insert a clause in the scholarship that results in a heavy fine if a healthy athlete skips out? The school has been paying for the education for 4+ years and should be entitled to some restitution. Granted, NIL comp exceeds many scholarships but it shouldn’t be so painless to screw over your alma mater.

 

[Guy in the Back]

Or have a hefty NIL plan that matches their draft potential/earning potential.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Since the advent of NIL has made everything about contracts… why can’t a college insert a clause in the scholarship that results in a heavy fine if a healthy athlete skips out? The school has been paying for the education for 4+ years and should be entitled to some restitution. Granted, NIL comp exceeds many scholarships but it shouldn’t be so painless to screw over your alma mater.

Since the scholarship in question is a football scholarship, the primary agreement is (and this is simplified) that a scholarship will be given on a yearly basis as long as the student participates in the football program, barring injury, transfer, or dismissal.
So if said student participated for example 3 years, he was entitled to 3 years of scholarship. Should he opt out his last year, then the scholarship is withdrawn.
So the school would not be entitled to any restitution as long as both parties were in compliance during that tenure.

 

[Surfcock]

Since the advent of NIL has made everything about contracts… why can’t a college insert a clause in the scholarship that results in a heavy fine if a healthy athlete skips out? The school has been paying for the education for 4+ years and should be entitled to some restitution. Granted, NIL comp exceeds many scholarships but it shouldn’t be so painless to screw over your alma mater.

I agree. I think when a recruit commits and signs he is in a sense making Promissory Note or Contract with the University. The agreement is more of a goods for services than financial. School will supply - education, housing, medical, nutrition, IT (laptops, cable, internet), tutoring….etc. Student Athlete agrees to maintain a C average and play to the best of their ability

You look at leaving outside of family issues need the student closer to home, completing graduation or due to lack of playing time…..The player will need to possibly have their NIL give some $$$$ to the university or maybe a charity

What Is a Promissory Note?​

A promissory note is a debt instrument that contains a written promise by one party (the note's issuer or maker) to pay another party (the note's payee) a definite sum of money, either on-demand or at a specified future date. A promissory note typically contains all the terms pertaining to the indebtedness, such as the principal amount, interest rate, maturity date, date and place of issuance, and issuer's signature.

 

[Viennacock]

Since the advent of NIL has made everything about contracts… why can’t a college insert a clause in the scholarship that results in a heavy fine if a healthy athlete skips out? The school has been paying for the education for 4+ years and should be entitled to some restitution. Granted, NIL comp exceeds many scholarships but it shouldn’t be so painless to screw over your alma mater.

This sounds like a great recruiting tool.

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

Since the advent of NIL has made everything about contracts… why can’t a college insert a clause in the scholarship that results in a heavy fine if a healthy athlete skips out? The school has been paying for the education for 4+ years and should be entitled to some restitution. Granted, NIL comp exceeds many scholarships but it shouldn’t be so painless to screw over your alma mater.

Stop calling it “opting out” & call it what it really is….QUITTING.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Stop calling it “opting out” & call it what it really is….QUITTING.

or
move, relocate, resettle, reposition, transplant, moving on.

BTW: are you or anyone else who takes your position calling the students who transfer to SC as quitters, as well ?

 

[Anon1671602102]

or
move, relocate, resettle, reposition, transplant, moving on.

BTW: are you or anyone else who takes your position calling the students who transfer to SC as quitters, as well ?

Yeah that rattler, he is a quitter. You know you cannot win with quitters. We better kick him to the curb.

 

[DrMickeySC]

or
move, relocate, resettle, reposition, transplant, moving on.

BTW: are you or anyone else who takes your position calling the students who transfer to SC as quitters, as well ?

Mr Dangerfield, as ever, is known for his subtly and nuance.

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

or
move, relocate, resettle, reposition, transplant, moving on.

BTW: are you or anyone else who takes your position calling the students who transfer to SC as quitters, as well ?

I haven’t said one word about transfers. The quitters who simply chose not to play the bowl game, on the other hand….

 

[gamecox4982]

First play of the game I twist my ankle and limp off in pain..... Go to the tent and scream of pain ...... Out for the rest of the game ..... See its easy to not play if you don't want to

 

[VidaliaGamecock]

Since the advent of NIL has made everything about contracts… why can’t a college insert a clause in the scholarship that results in a heavy fine if a healthy athlete skips out? The school has been paying for the education for 4+ years and should be entitled to some restitution. Granted, NIL comp exceeds many scholarships but it shouldn’t be so painless to screw over your alma mater.

Because noone would pick your school. Schools have practically 0 leverage over players or coaches. If college football were a country, the State Department would classify it as a failed state.

 

[Cocky Jeff]

or
move, relocate, resettle, reposition, transplant, moving on.

BTW: are you or anyone else who takes your position calling the students who transfer to SC as quitters, as well ?

No. They just came home.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Stop calling it “opting out” & call it what it really is….QUITTING

I haven’t said one word about transfers. The quitters who simply chose not to play the bowl game, on the other hand….

Actually in another thread you stated and I quote "The transfers don't bother me as much"
So at this point it's just a matter of degrees of separation from your standpoint.

The words are you own.

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

Actually in another thread you stated and I quote "The transfers don't bother me as much"
So at this point it's just a matter of degrees of separation from your standpoint.

The words are you own.

They don't, as we have plenty of transfers on our team. Quitters are the worst, though, & cost us a Gator Bowl victory (Smith, Rush, Pickens, Kenion, Wonnum).

 

[Anon1671602102]

I haven’t said one word about transfers. The quitters who simply chose not to play the bowl game, on the other hand….

Wait so it’s ok to not play the bowl game due to transferring but you’re a quitter if you do it for combine training?

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

Wait so it’s ok to not play the bowl game due to transferring but you’re a quitter if you do it for combine training?

Smith, Rush, Pickens, Wonnum, & Kenion are quitters.

Read the other thread where Saban’s comments on combine training are shared.

 

[BetaLiberalCock1]

or
move, relocate, resettle, reposition, transplant, moving on.

BTW: are you or anyone else who takes your position calling the students who transfer to SC as quitters, as well ?

You can word salad it all day, they're quitters. Period. The end.

 

[Anon1671602102]

Smith, Rush, Pickens, Wonnum, & Kenion are quitters.

Read the other thread where Saban’s comments on combine training are shared.

Saban wants what’s best for roster management. I don’t care what he says.

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

Saban wants what’s best for roster management. I don’t care what he says.

Can you say, "idiot?"

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

You can word salad it all day, they're quitters. Period. The end.

And yet, the debate continues on this very thread alone.

 

[Anon1671602102]

Can you say, "idiot?"

Pot meet kettle if that’s the case. But the loser of the argument is usually the one that resorts to name calling.

 

[ReadR00ster]

They should have to make brownies for the entire team.

 

[18IsTheMan]

There's nothing really that can be done about it. The degradation of human morality is irreversible.

It's a sad commentary on our society that you have one group of people who think it's fine and dandy, good even, for people to back out of their commitment and you have another group of people trying to think of ways to incentivize people keeping their commitments.

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

Forever being labeled as a QUITTER is definitely there.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Forever being labeled as a QUITTER is definitely there.

Sadly, most are encouraged and celebrated by the fans, so that stigma isn’t there.