Purdue and fiscal discipline

[EddyS]

Just saw that Purdue has frozen tuition for eleven consecutive years. Maybe our amateurs can find out the secret.
ps: look at what has happened to Louisville under our new prez.. Why are we a disaster.

 

[Nitwit]

The Purdue President is a politician and extremely unpopular. You need to look beyond those tuition numbers to see what is happening there to drag down the university.

 

[Midnighter]

 

[EddyS]

The Purdue President is a politician and extremely unpopular. You need to look beyond those tuition numbers to see what is happening there to drag down the university.

Drag down. Their ranking has been moving way higher. I would be more than happy to have Mitch Daniels!

 

[EddyS]

Why don’t you look at what a joke Louisville is.

 

[Nitwit]

Correction - I guess Mitch Daniels is now retired? He gets credit for generating income by having the the university brew it’s own beer and selling it at football games. I could see Penn State doing that. Lion Beer - the Paws That Refreshes. Or maybe just ramp up the creamery’s production enough to take care of the tuition problem. Anyway, Daniels being a conservative was constantly at odds with the faculty and many alumni. (I have several Purdue relatives). He pinches pennies no doubt and that has paid off. And he bought a for profit online college for $1, Kaplan College, instead of building one. He’s a businessman rather than an academician. The engineering students were OK with him, but he didn’t fit with the model of a liberal educational institution set on humanities, education, liberal arts, etc. Its a very conservative place.

His reference to black scholars as “creatures” did not go over well:
Even so, Daniels hasn’t escaped the controversies that attend diversity issues in higher education. Last November, Purdue’s student newspaper released audio of Daniels discussing faculty hiring with a group of mostly minority students. “At the end of this week,” he told them, “I’ll be recruiting one of the rarest creatures in America—a leading, I mean a really leading, African American scholar.”

Social media erupted. The hashtag #IAmNOTACreature took off on Twitter. D’Yan Berry, the president of Purdue’s Black Student Union, wrote that she was “disappointed but not at all surprised by his reference … to Black students as creatures. It afflicts me that this is how he speaks even when ‘boasting’ on students.
So no doubt he’s a cost cutter, but not without some controversy. Would he fit at Penn State? Or Stanford, USC, Michigan, Wisconsin?

 

[BobPSU92]

Neeli laughs at purdue.

 

[91Joe95]

Competence scares me.

 

[GrimReaper]

Competence scares me.

Scares the BoT even more.

 

[PSUFTG]

x

 

[Nitwit]

The praise for Daniels is not universal according to this article:
While Daniels’s approach wins mostly praise on campus, David Sanders, a biological-sciences professor and frequent critic of Daniels’s policies, told me he hears quiet grumbles. “The freeze is a marvelous admissions marketing tool,” Sanders said. But the surge in enrollment “puts a lot of stresses on the city and the campus.” In his own department of biological sciences, despite the campuswide improvement in the student-teacher ratio, “introductory-class sizes are much larger,” requiring more students to monitor lectures remotely. And as resources get reallocated, “there’s far more competition between faculty and between departments,” he said. “The institution is less collegial.” (Most faculty members contacted for this story declined to comment.)

 

[LionJim]

The praise for Daniels is not universal according to this article:
While Daniels’s approach wins mostly praise on campus, David Sanders, a biological-sciences professor and frequent critic of Daniels’s policies, told me he hears quiet grumbles. “The freeze is a marvelous admissions marketing tool,” Sanders said. But the surge in enrollment “puts a lot of stresses on the city and the campus.” In his own department of biological sciences, despite the campuswide improvement in the student-teacher ratio, “introductory-class sizes are much larger,” requiring more students to monitor lectures remotely. And as resources get reallocated, “there’s far more competition between faculty and between departments,” he said. “The institution is less collegial.” (Most faculty members contacted for this story declined to comment.)

College faculty are a notoriously whiny group. (Having tenure probably factors into it.) That doesn’t negate your larger point but I’ve never been at a faculty meeting where someone didn’t have something to ***** about.

 

[Keyser Soze 16802]

His reference to black scholars as “creatures” did not go over well:
Even so, Daniels hasn’t escaped the controversies that attend diversity issues in higher education. Last November, Purdue’s student newspaper released audio of Daniels discussing faculty hiring with a group of mostly minority students. “At the end of this week,” he told them, “I’ll be recruiting one of the rarest creatures in America—a leading, I mean a really leading, African American scholar.”

Social media erupted. The hashtag #IAmNOTACreature took off on Twitter. D’Yan Berry, the president of Purdue’s Black Student Union, wrote that she was “disappointed but not at all surprised by his reference … to Black students as creatures. It afflicts me that this is how he speaks even when ‘boasting’ on students.
So no doubt he’s a cost cutter, but not without some controversy. Would he fit at Penn State? Or Stanford, USC, Michigan, Wisconsin?

great example of how ridiculous people can be. It's pretty obvious what he meant

 

[91Joe95]

Sometimes my tummy quietly grumbles.

 

[91Joe95]

What is the purpose of a university? Is it to appease faculty, or to provide a quality education at an affordable cost? Maybe Daniels actually listened to his customer, the students, and prioritized them. Maybe someone demanded a little accountability of the faculty, and a few of them received substandard reviews from the customers. Stop the insanity.

 

[step.eng69]

Sometimes my tummy quietly grumbles.

Nitwit?

 

[Nitwit]

Nitwit?

I do like to be provocative. Thinking (rare as it is) is good for people. Sometimes I like to take an unpopular but interesting view. Truth be told, I generally don’t give a ****, unless it’s one of Midnighter’s babe polls.

 

[MacNit]

The Purdue President is a politician and extremely unpopular. You need to look beyond those tuition numbers to see what is happening there to drag down the university.

Extremely unpopular with who? He was “popular” enough to be elected Governor of Indiana.

 

[Psu00]

The praise for Daniels is not universal according to this article:
While Daniels’s approach wins mostly praise on campus, David Sanders, a biological-sciences professor and frequent critic of Daniels’s policies, told me he hears quiet grumbles. “The freeze is a marvelous admissions marketing tool,” Sanders said. But the surge in enrollment “puts a lot of stresses on the city and the campus.” In his own department of biological sciences, despite the campuswide improvement in the student-teacher ratio, “introductory-class sizes are much larger,” requiring more students to monitor lectures remotely. And as resources get reallocated, “there’s far more competition between faculty and between departments,” he said. “The institution is less collegial.” (Most faculty members contacted for this story declined to comment.)

There are always some who disagree. You’re looking for universal praise for a college president? Not happening.

What gets hidden in the portion of the story you posted is the line “While Daniels’ approach wins mostly praise on campus”. That got neatly passed over for 1 complainer.

He was upset at competition on campus (the horror) and introductory classes being much larger (PSU has that covered already even WITH constant tuition increases).

The other hidden gem in that article is the ‘improvement campus wide in student to teacher ratio’. That gets glossed over quickly too for the guy’s complaint on introductory classes.

I don’t know the specifics about Purdue’s finances but it’s remarkable if they haven’t had tuition increases for 11 years. PSU should be sending folks to Purdue first thing tomorrow to learn their secret and see what can be adopted at Penn State.

 

[BobPSU92]

Praise of barren at PSU is not universal, and look at the job he’s done.

 

[step.eng69]

Praise of barren at PSU is not universal, and look at the handjob he’s done.

FIFY

 

[EddyS]

Praise of barren at PSU is not universal, and look at the job he’s done.

And Louisville is a joke.

 

[EddyS]

And Louisville is a joke.

In US News and World Report, it is ranked 577 among global universities.