Qatar bans beer sales at World Cup.

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FiFAs decision to have the WC there was an absolute disaster to begin with and this is the icing on the cake.


 

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FiFAs decision to have the WC there was an absolute disaster to begin with and this is the icing on the cake.


I saw that Budweiser is a big sponsor and not too pleased about that decision, as you might imagine. A little late in the game to be changing the rules, but to your point, shame on FIFA for even allowing it to be held in Qatar.
 
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Qatar: Let's modernize our image and promote our country so that Westerners will travel and spend their dollars here.

Also Qatar: WE ARE THE 17ING FUN POLICE
 

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Toss this in the least surprising thing I've seen this month pile. It's surprising they changed 2 days before the start, but not surprising they don't want public beer sales.


What's really nuts is that there isn't a ban on alcohol in the stadiums, it's just beer.
Why the hair splitting?
When Qatar launched its bid to host the World Cup, the country agreed to FIFA’s requirements of selling alcohol in stadiums — but the details were only released in September, just 11 weeks before the first kickoff, suggesting how fraught the negotiations may have been. Friday’s statement from FIFA said non-alcoholic beer will still be sold at the eight stadiums, while champagne, wine, whiskey and other alcohol will be served in the luxury hospitality areas of the arenas.
 

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Ha Ha Ha Lol GIF
 
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See my shocked face. Wait until the same sex attracted people get arrested for public displays of affection.
 
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Starkville not so long ago, especially on Sunday. At least slave labor wasn't banned there or those stadiums wouldn't have gotten built in time.
 

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Toss this in the least surprising thing I've seen this month pile. It's surprising they changed 2 days before the start, but not surprising they don't want public beer sales.


What's really nuts is that there isn't a ban on alcohol in the stadiums, it's just beer.
Why the hair splitting?
The hard liquor is only in the premium seats, according to that article. And for a World Cup match, I hate to think how much those seats cost.

At least they gave the globe 2 days to stock up on booze and flasks at the duty-free shops at the airports!
 

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At least they gave the globe 2 days to stock up on booze and flasks at the duty-free shops at the airports!
Yeah, I'm gonna advise against doing that if you were dumb enough to enter that country to begin with. Good way to find yourself wishing that h e l l h o l e was as kind to people who break their laws as Russia was with Brittany Griner.
 

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There is not enough money in the world that could convince me to travel to that country to watch a game. And I love the World Cup.
 
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Another reason for me to NGAF 'bout soccer; stupid call in the first place to hold the event in that part of the world. Now I see the Men's Team has ditched Old Glory's Red, White and Blue for The Rainbow supporting the LGBQ folks. My beliefs tell me to be kind to everyone despite how different they may be from me and I have several gay friends from previous jobs that I still maintain contact with because they are good people and what happens after they take their final breath as we all have to some day is between them and God is the way I see it. Sexuality should be a private & personal affair IMO and need not be advertised.

 

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The hard liquor is only in the premium seats, according to that article. And for a World Cup match, I hate to think how much those seats cost.

At least they gave the globe 2 days to stock up on booze and flasks at the duty-free shops at the airports!

Yes, premium seats only. Thats what is funny to me- it's bassically saying 'alcohol isn't allowed here so no alcohol for all of you who didn't pay enough to be in these select areas. In these areas though? Well that's OK.'. Its comical to me.
 

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In reality the only people it is effecting is the people who are going to attend.
 

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Shocking that a Muslim ******** would ban alcohol at the last minute after straight up lying about allowing it for all these years. The whole damn world should have been boycotting this World Cup from the beginning.
Actually, several Arab Muslim Countries (Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, etc.) allow the sale and consumption of alcohol, they have no problem with non muslins consuming alcohol. Usually in hotel bars and/or restaurants.
 

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Sexuality should be a private & personal affair IMO and need not be advertised.

The uniform change is disappointing to see. I would rather see RW&B.

As for the part of your post I quoted, I agree that would be ideal. When people aren't beaten, hated, oppressed, and targeted, they typically don't make much noise. So for me, a straight white man, I don't feel obligated or motivated to point out that I like women.
That isn't the case for lgbtq+ folk. They are still hated on, legislated against, physically attacked, and treated differently. One way to combat that is to be loud and show unison. This then means their sexuality is on display more that mine or yours.

^ I am not defending the practice of being loud and in your face, I am simply explaining how it is a tactic to try and change society.
This is similar to marches and protests during civil rights eras which were done for largely the same reasons- highlight poor treatment and push for change.

If everyone treated others without discrimination, sexuality would be a much more private affair because nobody would feel as obligated to make it public to force discussions and change.
 
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When in Rome ....

Qatar has had a tourist campaign going on for a few weeks on television. It's likely connected to the World Cup. Dohar is a pretty over the top place - lots of money.
 

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The uniform change is disappointing to see. I would rather see RW&B.

As for the part of your post I quoted, I agree that would be ideal. When people aren't beaten, hated, oppressed, and targeted, they typically don't make much noise. So for me, a straight white man, I don't feel obligated or motivated to point out that I like women.
That isn't the case for lgbtq+ folk. They are still hated on, legislated against, physically attacked, and treated differently. One way to combat that is to be loud and show unison. This then means their sexuality is on display more that mine or yours.

^ I am not defending the practice of being loud and in your face, I am simply explaining how it is a tactic to try and change society.
This is similar to marches and protests during civil rights eras which were done for largely the same reasons- highlight poor treatment and push for change.

If everyone treated others without discrimination, sexuality would be a much more private affair because nobody would feel as obligated to make it public to force discussions and change.
You should point out the countries where this is primarily happening along with the dominant religion of those countries. I wonder what we'll notice. They're pretty much all in Africa and Asia and they're also places where women's lives are controlled to a significant degree as well (see protests in Iran). But, isn't the rainbow colors thing a form of cultural imperialism? Aren't we westerners telling non-whites elsewhere that their cultural practices are barbaric and immoral? My old crazy sociology prof might call that ethnocentrism and racism, I guess. But she was a lesbian so maybe not. She also didn't have much to say about the treatment of gays and lesbians in non-white countries, though. Whitey was the evil one.
 
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You should point out the countries where this is primarily happening along with the dominant religion of those countries. I wonder what we'll notice. They're pretty much all in Africa and Asia and they're also places where women's lives are controlled to a significant degree as well (see protests in Iran). But, isn't the rainbow colors thing a form of cultural imperialism? Aren't we westerners telling non-whites elsewhere that their cultural practices are barbaric and immoral? My old crazy sociology prof might call that ethnocentrism and racism, I guess. But she was a lesbian so maybe not. She also didn't have much to say about the treatment of gays and lesbians in non-white countries, though. Whitey was the evil one.
It's a big world wide issue that deserves attention. Unfortunately a majority of our country is more concerned with how they will pay for Thanksgiving and Christmas after exhaustion their caches this year while the Federal Reserve tells us that pay raises are the real culprit of inflation while some states are counting votes and gearing up for runoffs, while Trump's dumb *** announced he is running again.

I've decided the "rainbow" really represents the absolute cluster17 our country is in.
 

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You should point out the countries where this is primarily happening along with the dominant religion of those countries. I wonder what we'll notice. They're pretty much all in Africa and Asia and they're also places where women's lives are controlled to a significant degree as well (see protests in Iran). But, isn't the rainbow colors thing a form of cultural imperialism? Aren't we westerners telling non-whites elsewhere that their cultural practices are barbaric and immoral? My old crazy sociology prof might call that ethnocentrism and racism, I guess. But she was a lesbian so maybe not. She also didn't have much to say about the treatment of gays and lesbians in non-white countries, though. Whitey was the evil one.
I could point out the states where it is primarily happening too, since that was the intended subject of my prior comments.

But yeah sure, it's a world cup so the issue at the world stage is also...an issue.
 

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The uniform change is disappointing to see. I would rather see RW&B.

As for the part of your post I quoted, I agree that would be ideal. When people aren't beaten, hated, oppressed, and targeted, they typically don't make much noise. So for me, a straight white man, I don't feel obligated or motivated to point out that I like women.
That isn't the case for lgbtq+ folk. They are still hated on, legislated against, physically attacked, and treated differently. One way to combat that is to be loud and show unison. This then means their sexuality is on display more that mine or yours.

^ I am not defending the practice of being loud and in your face, I am simply explaining how it is a tactic to try and change society.
This is similar to marches and protests during civil rights eras which were done for largely the same reasons- highlight poor treatment and push for change.

If everyone treated others without discrimination, sexuality would be a much more private affair because nobody would feel as obligated to make it public to force discussions and change.
Liked this because you make very good points but I just have a different take having worked in the DFW area now for 18 years and have not seen the discrimination or hardships you seem to insinuate are still going on here in The U.S. As an example, a former boss I had is a black lesbian and we recently made tentative plans to meet for drinks and dinner cuz we haven't seen each other in a couple of years and we both are in similar real estate fields and may have some business opportunities to discuss as well. I've just never seen the racism and homophobia that so many think is a big problem here in The U.S. so I just don't get the woke rampages. If we would just practice "Love they Neighbor as Thyself" the way Christ intended, there would be no need to even have the discussion IMO.
 

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I could point out the states where it is primarily happening too, since that was the intended subject of my prior comments.

But yeah sure, it's a world cup so the issue at the world stage is also...an issue.
Yes. Point out the states and provide data (actual numbers). It's incredibly rare in this country. Compare it to violent attacks on other groups and to the murder rate. Show me some data. Tell me where this isn't happening: "When people aren't beaten, hated, oppressed, and targeted, they typically don't make much noise." Even most transpeople killed, a number less than 30, are killed by lovers or acquaintances. Still a lot of noise being made by activists who spread propaganda and ignore data. Show me the data.
 
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Liked this because you make very good points but I just have a different take having worked in the DFW area now for 18 years and have not seen the discrimination or hardships you seem to insinuate are still going on here in The U.S. As an example, a former boss I had is a black lesbian and we recently made tentative plans to meet for drinks and dinner cuz we haven't seen each other in a couple of years and we both are in similar real estate fields and may have some business opportunities to discuss as well. I've just never seen the racism and homophobia that so many think is a big problem here in The U.S. so I just don't get the woke rampages. If we would just practice "Love they Neighbor as Thyself" the way Christ intended, there would be no need to even have the discussion IMO.
Based on what you have posted, you seem like a good person.

As for issues in the US, I would start by pointing you to politicians at the state and federal levels that have publicly expressed a desire to roll back lgbtq+ protections, or pass laws to not give protections in the first place.

I fully agree the US is exponentially better than some other countries in this matter.
 
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Quite specific and not vague at all. Not sure what lgbtq+ protections you're referring to. Btw, no one is lgbtq+, they are gays, lesbians etc. I have no idea what an lgbtq+ protection is. We can let this rest.
 

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Let's drop this guys. The soccer coverage will discuss it enough. We can have a bitchfest about this subject somewhere else.

Back to soccer... do we stand any chance to advance far no matter what our colors are? I've actually been waiting for somebody to bring the subject up because I wondered if we have a chance for not
 

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We have a chance but we don't have a good coach. We haven't had a reliable striker either although a couple of guys have recently been hot so are now on the team. Our midfield is pretty good, it's a strength, and our defenders are decent although a couple of injuries to key players, a starter and backup, might be a problem. Goalie, a usual strong suit, is untested. I think we can get out of the group and I also think we can finish fourth in the group without a single win. This team is hard to read, but Wales and Iran don't appear to be better than us. England is, but England is notorious for underperforming in World Cups. BTW, I don't think we're actually wearing the rainbow crest for matches but it will appear elsewhere.
 

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Back to soccer... do we stand any chance to advance far no matter what our colors are? I've actually been waiting for somebody to bring the subject up because I wondered if we have a chance for not
Back to soccer, England is easily the class of our group. They should go 3-0. 2-4 in our group is a total crapshoot. ELO soccer rankings (more accurate than FIFA rankings) have USA #23, Iran #24 and Wales #25. We could be anywhere from 2nd to 4th, and good chance it will come down to goal differential.

also, interesting quirk on the schedule. Ordinarily, a team like England might rest a lot of players in the 3rd game when they’ve already advanced and skew the results. But the 3rd game is England-Wales. That’s a huge rivalry. England will NOT want to drop points there.
 
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Based on what you have posted, you seem like a good person.

As for issues in the US, I would start by pointing you to politicians at the state and federal levels that have publicly expressed a desire to roll back lgbtq+ protections, or pass laws to not give protections in the first place.

I fully agree the US is exponentially better than some other countries in this matter.
No Doubt our country's Cultural Evolution over the last 50 years or so most often gets ignored and IMO needs to be celebrated. What protection roll backs though are you referring to?
 

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Yes. Point out the states and provide data (actual numbers). It's incredibly rare in this country. Compare it to violent attacks on other groups and to the murder rate. Show me some data. Tell me where this isn't happening: "When people aren't beaten, hated, oppressed, and targeted, they typically don't make much noise." Even most transpeople killed, a number less than 30, are killed by lovers or acquaintances. Still a lot of noise being made by activists who spread propaganda and ignore data. Show me the data.
You're prolly spot on here as I've seen stuff that has me leaning this way based on what's been going on in D.C. at the DOJ & FBI and it's clear they have a one track mind agenda. They even had vocal Parents ticked off about Porn and CRT in public classrooms put on terror watch lists. Their plan is to create a belief that this minority of people are being abused only by those outta hatred of gay people to gain sympathy from the masses. All Political BS. "Let's make Laws to advance their Cause" is their battle cry.
 
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Musah, Adams and McKennie make a good midfield and one that's good enough to play with all but the best teams. Aronson's a midfielder and playmaker. Adams runs for days protecting our backline and he talks trash. I like that. 2 of Pulisic, Reyna, and Weah will be wide forwards that can challenge defenses with speed and skill. They're are all talented playmakers who can score as well. Up top we'll have either Sargent or Wright, both have been scoring goals but not in top leagues. Our goalie is the backup at Arsenal, currently top of the table in England. We play a 3-4-3, with variations that make it too complicated for players in my view, but there's talk we might go to a 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 (not sure if that matters to you but it's more common to have 4, rather than three defenders). We like our left and right backs to get upfield and cross into the box a lot (Adams often tracks back to cover). We have a couple of good young guys (Dest, Scally and Robinson). We have a 35-year-old defender who wasn't on the radar not long ago but has been playing well in England (Ream). The World Cup is usually a young man's game so he's long in the tooth. We also have Cameron Carter Vickers the son of former LSU basketball great Howard Carter, on the backline (Howard knocked up a British gal playing in England so his son's an American). Not sure if he'll start but he's good and a pretty tough guy. He's a fighter. I like him. We actually have some guys on the bench who can contribute, something we really haven't had it the past. But, I wish we had Pepi instead of one of those marginal bench guys. We looked pitiful in our last two matches, friendlies against Saudi Arabia and an arse-kicking by Japan. That's why I'm not hopeful. Plus we don't have a good record on the road. But, everyone else is on the road for this one. A couple guys have minor injuries coming into camp so our starting lineup on Monday against Wales might have a couple of surprises. Can't lose to Wales. We play England on Black Friday but I'm hoping for a Battle of Saratoga like win for us against a much more talented England team.
 
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The only thing I care about is that no Liverpool players get hurt. I loathe international soccer. The EPL is better, and the top EPL teams would destroy the best national side.
 
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Shocking that a Muslim ******** would ban alcohol at the last minute after straight up lying about allowing it for all these years. The whole damn world should have been boycotting this World Cup from the beginning.
Kinda like playing with a snake and then being surprised when it bites you.
 
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