Ray!
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While the improvement of the Baseball team is a great start, I want to see if it can be sustained on a yearly basis. I'm not being negative by any means but our baseball team use to be the gold standard year in and year out for a championship college baseball program. Hopefully whatever recipe is working will be kept moving forward.
Ray is the guy who sunk the ship during his AD tenure… 10 years later this is some possible improvement.
Never understood the negativity applied to Ray about the baseball program. It's rare that ANY school replaces a legend to lead a successful program with another legend that can do the same... it's tough when you even make what seems like the right hire. If you don't think Holbrook was the right hire as the time he was hired, you're kidding yourself and have no credibility. It was the right hire, but it just didn't work out which saw the natural decline from what fans were accustomed to. You see it all the time in many sports... Heck, Tom Herman was supposed to be the "can't miss" football coach at Texas. Right hire at the time and it didn't work out. Happens in all sports.
I'm sure every program that gets to the College World Series (whether they win it or not), think's it is their "right" to be there every year.... see Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State in recent years. The SEC is the best baseball conference in the country top to bottom, and all those schools aren't just sitting on their hands either.
I'm sure every program that gets to the College World Series (whether they win it or not), think's it is their "right" to be there every year.... see Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State in recent years. The SEC is the best baseball conference in the country top to bottom, and all those schools aren't just sitting on their hands either.
Plus all the new facilities under his watch. Poster has no credibility.So the Beamer hire is doomed?
Staley going somewhere?
What didn’t you understand? He left in the prime of his coaching ability to become an AD?? Boo! You coach two championship teams, have a juggernaut program, and you leave it for an admin role??? That’s why people were negative
You see what the type of mentality is on here. Many haven’t a clue.
Glad you were able to put into words what some people know & I don’t have the patience to type.
Ray still has a long way to go to right the ship after that Mooooshamp football hire. Everyone thought it was a bad idea. Well, everyone but Ray. It set the program back a decade or more.
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Wrong...He was leaving coaching anyway and had made that clear prior to the 2012 season.
He had two what were then two quality candidates lined up. Smart and Herman. They got better offers and took them. Most any coach would have taken Georgia and Texas over us. Then it was a scramble. What's left?? In a scramble you don't always get what you want. I will say kudos to Ray for not canning the baseball coach when posters on here were calling for his head. So far, that patience is paying off.
I don’t know. But if I were the one getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to find candidates. It wouldn’t have been Muschamp! Never should have even been considered.
Then name someone that would have taken the job that you would have 100% guaranteed would have been successful.
But that hiring was 7+ yrs ago. Rookie mistake. It was Mike McGee who hired Brad Scott.
I posted when we won dumazz.
FB finished ranked #23, recruiting is impressive.
Lady Gamecocks finished #3...lost 1 game.
Yardcocks are Top 10.
Tanner is trending updwards.
Now show me my posts "after we lose".
I would have hired Herman or Smart before Texas or Georgia could have even blinked. If not them- then someone else. I/nobody can 100% guarantee someone will live up to whatever your expectations are. But I wouldn’t settle for someone who recently showed that he isn’t SEC and probably not even D1 headcoach material.
Perhaps Herman and/or Smart were waiting for other offers....
"Thanks for the offer, Ray; my agent will be in touch....."
Reportedly, we had Smart all locked up.....until UGA made moves that few thought they would.
Herman I agree was waiting on a confirmation of a UT guarantee within two years....and got it. Wonder what would have happened if Strong had an undefeated season in that interim year.
Not stupid, just premature. The ship is no longer below water and bailing with all hands, but appears to be sea worthy again!
I don’t care if we win nattys in both CFB and beisbol this year. It was a terrible hire on multiple levels. An AD especially in the SEC is no different than a CEO of a $100MM Corp. Ray has absolutely no qualifications, and in no way whatsoever should he be holding the position. He’s been in charge over 10 years and has nothing to show for it in either wins from coaches he hired or projects that he thought of on his own. He is totally outclassed by pretty much every other D-1 AD.
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Founders Park was all Tanners doing from the land to the design to the fundraising. And all those other facilities would still be ink on paper if it weren’t for Tanner’s ability to fundraise and have enough gravitas with the legislature to get LT funding approved. That is what Hyman was hired to do at TAMU and wasn’t able to….and got fired.
Either you don’t know much about the ADs responsibilities or you have been poorly informed or you simply have an irrational hate of Tanner.
Well. If you are that smart, why aren't you making hundred of thousands of dollars?? Oh. You are???
Facilities are doing well. Football is trending up strongly for now. As is baseball. Basketball is an unknown at this point.
Basketball is on life support and baseball has gotten a steroid injection this season with long term impact TBD. Agree that football is trending up strongly and WBB and facilities are strong. Basketball needs much attention and scrutiny.
Men's basketball. The adjective is important.
Men's basketball. The adjective is important.
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That's why I specified WBB and Facilities are strong. Basketball was obviously in reference to men's.
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That's why I specified WBB and Facilities are strong. Basketball was obviously in reference to men's.
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That's why I specified WBB and Facilities are strong. Basketball was obviously in reference to men's.
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Others could state basketball is strong, and MBB is on life support. That's why it's best to always specify the sex without making any assumptions.
Perhaps I should have been!? Even our legislatures were arguing that Tanner should have nothing to do with replacing the h/c after his Muschamp hire. I think that anyone with any common sense would do a better job at a/d than Ray Tanner.
I wouldn’t have made the mistake of hiring Will Muschamp in the first place. Not only does TANNER do that. Tanner then gives him raises and a massive buyout all while he was producing mediocre results. Ray is the epitome of a bad a/d. Great guy, obviously great baseball coach. But he is in over his head now.
BS. Legislature said nothing. You may be thinking of Caslen, our former plagiarizing President who evidently drunkenly thought he was the Prez of Cal-Berkeley.
Tanner actually has a very good relationship with the legislature…at least a good majority of it.
Facilities? Basketball was never great and it’s now long in the tooth. Basketball practice facilities need a ton. W-B needs a ton too.
Scott was an assistant on a national power. Anyone would’ve hired him. Muschamp was a loser at UF.But that hiring was 7+ yrs ago. Rookie mistake. It was Mike McGee who hired Brad Scott.
McGee was AD when the Basketball arena was built and because of state caps on bond funding for athletic facilities it handicapped our ability to do much more for several years.
Still was a rookie mistake that cost us. There is a reason why Mike explicitly stated he wanted a "proven" coach to replace fat Brad.
I also contend Shane hiring Satt was a rookie mistake. We'll find out if I'm right in about 8 mos.
Seems the revenue lost from the CV year ('20) set some of this back.
I agree with that. Can’t think of any athletic organization that would come away financially unscathed from that.
