Sad Satt Stat

[Lurker123]

He found more gems than any other RC for Spurrier and we had more busts without him. Think of all the busts in that '15 class. Think of how the 2010 class was ranked 19th and was loaded with out of state talent that ended up producing more than any other teams class when all was said and done.

I can certainly see how some would want to argue that.

It's too hard to discern between him finding the talent and Spurrier coaching up the talent, imo.

But the trend is upward, as far as rankings go. And if 2024's class holds, it'll be a large step forward from the norm.

 

[JoeMorrisonLives]

That seems odd. But given the actual quote, where you say tennesse, Clemson and Florida in 2021 makes me wonder if any confusion was really on the part of the reader.

Tennessee, Clemson, Florida in 2021 are all proof the scheme wasn't the problem with our offense,

I think we've already made a bigger deal out of it than it's worth though.

I didn't blame you for the confusion. Why are you being argumentative and accusatory when you could just take my word for it.

 

[Lurker123]

I didn't blame you for the confusion. Why are you being argumentative and accusatory when you could just take my word for it.

You weren't the one I was referencing when I said "whiny diatribe", nor the one so interested in assigning blame.

And I am the one who has said repeatedly that it's no big deal, and that it's been made a bigger deal than it's worth. We've already posted WAY too much for a simple "I said the wrong team, or the wrong year".

 

[Deleted11512]

We have had good classes. I researched one ti.e, and we're pretty consistent high teens to low twenties. Hence why I sometimes question the celebrating of recruiting rankings that fall in that range.

You are right that 2024 is starting much better.

I was confused by one thing, you said we're better at RB? Did we get a rent portal transfer, because as of yesterday we were still really thin there, with a thread dedicated to that concern.

The Roar here in the upstate had Morrell on this morning. Firstly, he confirmed it's a LSU/USC battle for Diggs. And Diggs is looking for a spot he can be a feature back. LSU doesn't really check that box, but they other factors we don't. It's going to be interesting, but the staff feels good about him.

On the recruiting front, he went down the list of 4-5* kids that have visits scheduled over the next few months. It was lengthy. Then he said "USC is recruiting at a level I haven't seen in all my years covering recruiting". We're just on the front end of it. The great thing about all those players he mentioned, I don't think any of them were SC guys. Beamer is expanding the footprint. Exciting times.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The Roar here in the upstate had Morrell on this morning. Firstly, he confirmed it's a LSU/USC battle for Diggs. And Diggs is looking for a spot he can be a feature back. LSU doesn't really check that box, but they other factors we don't. It's going to be interesting, but the staff feels good about him.

On the recruiting front, he went down the list of 4-5* kids that have visits scheduled over the next few months. It was lengthy. Then he said "USC is recruiting at a level I haven't seen in all my years covering recruiting". We're just on the front end of it. The great thing about all those players he mentioned, I don't think any of them were SC guys. Beamer is expanding the footprint. Exciting times.

It's going to be an interesting battle for Diggs. What a gift it would be for us to actually upgrade after the departure of Lloyd was seen as a major hit to the position.

Diggs grew up 1 hour from Baton Rouge. The head coach who recruited him to college is there, so there's probably already a level of trust. But if he looks at our RB room, he's gotta know he's gonna be penciled in as RB1.

 

[Lurker123]

The Roar here in the upstate had Morrell on this morning. Firstly, he confirmed it's a LSU/USC battle for Diggs. And Diggs is looking for a spot he can be a feature back. LSU doesn't really check that box, but they other factors we don't. It's going to be interesting, but the staff feels good about him.

On the recruiting front, he went down the list of 4-5* kids that have visits scheduled over the next few months. It was lengthy. Then he said "USC is recruiting at a level I haven't seen in all my years covering recruiting". We're just on the front end of it. The great thing about all those players he mentioned, I don't think any of them were SC guys. Beamer is expanding the footprint. Exciting times.

The recruiting definitely seems to be moving ahead at warp speed.

The Diggs thing is what I was wondering, if he had signed or not. One would feel a LOT more comfortable with him than without him going I to this year.

A funny side note on Morrell, I think he gives a great 20 minute run down on Tuesday mornings. But I was called a tater for listening to him. (Wrong station or something)

 

[Go Gamecocks]

Diggs grew up 1 hour from Baton Rouge. The head coach who recruited him to college is there, so there's probably already a level of trust. But if he looks at our RB room, he's gotta know he's gonna be penciled in as RB1.

That can't be an easy decision.

 

[Deleted11512]

That can't be an easy decision.

Yeah, it's going to be brain vs heart. In addition to having 7 scholarship RBs, LSU's leading rusher was their QB last year. So not only will have to compete with a loaded RB room, he's going to be sharing carries with the QB. He's got 2 years to play, so he can't really afford to wait his turn if it came to that.

 

[will110]

Don't disagree, and this is an oversimplification, but scheming around them, or running right at them? One option seems doomed to me, right off the bat.

I guess if we're using georgia as the measuring stick, then we lose before the game starts. We don't have the horses to compete.

But what gets us moving from middle to higher in the pack of the SEC?

Georgia should not be the measuring stick now. It needs to be Florida, Tennessee, and Kentucky. If we can beat these three consistently, we'll put ourselves in a position to beat Georgia.

It's like paying loans...experts say start with the smallest ones and work up. That's what we need to do in the SEC.

 

[Cocky99]

I’m shocked that a major program did a lateral hire with Satterfield. on the plus side……. Beamer didn’t have to fire him……..

 

[Go Gamecocks]

I’m shocked that a major program did a lateral hire with Satterfield. on the plus side……. Beamer didn’t have to fire him……..

Rhule's an OC guy. Not as risky for Huskers.

 

[Deleted11512]

Georgia should not be the measuring stick now. It needs to be Florida, Tennessee, and Kentucky. If we can beat these three consistently, we'll put ourselves in a position to beat Georgia.

It's like paying loans...experts say start with the smallest ones and work up. That's what we need to do in the SEC.

Not about using them as a measuring stick. But you have to start with the end goal in mind. I think in Beamer’s mind, it doesn’t matter if we had an air raid and beat UF by 10, to get waxed by UGA by 30.

 

[Maccmaine12]

Gotta ask...since Rattler played on the same Sooner team as Hurts, and Hurts is now a solid NFL guy, how much difference does the "pro style" offense really make?

Hurts came from a pro style with Bama and the offense he runs now with the Eagles have a lot of the same concepts you’ll see in college.

 

[Lurker123]

Not about using them as a measuring stick. But you have to start with the end goal in mind. I think in Beamer’s mind, it doesn’t matter if we had an air raid and beat UF by 10, to get waxed by UGA by 30.

The end goal is great (and its still a matter of opinion that AR offenses won't get us there) but we've got to make decisions about beating UF, UK etc consistently, and using them as the measuring stick, before we are in the league of UGA, and can start comparing to them.

 

[Lurker123]

Hurts came from a pro style with Bama and the offense he runs now with the Eagles have a lot of the same concepts you’ll see in college.

He asks a good question though. How much difference did the style make? Hurts was benched in a pro style offense, flourished on the AR, then got drafted and plays on the NFL with a team that has "college concepts".

 

[gamecock stock]

Don't know if anyone has thought about what a nightmare it will be here if Nebraska lights up the scoreboard this season and, we continue struggling on offense. We will never hear the end of it from the poster "who shall not be named". Still think that Satt will benefit from having Matt Rhule hold his hand.

 

[will110]

Not about using them as a measuring stick. But you have to start with the end goal in mind. I think in Beamer’s mind, it doesn’t matter if we had an air raid and beat UF by 10, to get waxed by UGA by 30.

End goal, sure. But Georgia doesn't matter if we can't beat Florida.

 

[Lurker123]

Don't know if anyone has thought about what a nightmare it will be here if Nebraska lights up the scoreboard this season and, we continue struggling on offense. We will never hear the end of it from the poster "who shall not be named". Still think that Satt will benefit from having Matt Rhule hold his hand.

The absolute hissy fit might just be worth it to watch, but we'd have to bomb, so it's not worth it.

 

[Deleted11512]

End goal, sure. But Georgia doesn't matter if we can't beat Florida.

If Loggains is going to run it the way it was at the end of the year, and we keep recruiting how we are, I’m not too worried about competing with UF.

 

[KingWard]

Don't know if anyone has thought about what a nightmare it will be here if Nebraska lights up the scoreboard this season and, we continue struggling on offense. We will never hear the end of it from the poster "who shall not be named". Still think that Satt will benefit from having Matt Rhule hold his hand.

If they do, it will probably be a matter of personnel. It will also not alter the history of predominant offense suckage that the majority of our 2022 football season entailed.

 

[Maccmaine12]

He asks a good question though. How much difference did the style make? Hurts was benched in a pro style offense, flourished on the AR, then got drafted and plays on the NFL with a team that has "college concepts".

He was bench for a guy that got drafted #4 overall. He also help win a SEC championship as a backup. The bench arguments don’t mean much if they were bench for another elite talent and not an average Joe.

 

[Lurker123]

He was bench for a guy that got drafted #4 overall. He also help win a SEC championship as a backup. The bench arguments don’t mean much if they were bench for another elite talent and not an average Joe.

And yet he was still benched, and had to transfer away just to see playing time.

And after transferring, he flourished under the new system. As one article I found put it:

When Jalen Hurts left Alabama for Oklahoma, he was a benched quarterback viewed as more of a runner than a passer. A year with the Sooners provided quite the renaissance.

Hurts went from a possible NFL prospect as a gadget player to a legitimate quarterback draft pick in the second round by the Eagles.

How Jalen Hurts' college growth from Alabama to Oklahoma points to eventual NFL success | Sporting News

www.sportingnews.com

I'm sure other writers had different opinions, but looking back, it seems his flourishing at OU changed his draft trajectory a lot. Perhaps it was just a fifference in qb coaching though. Something as simple as a qb coach improving your mechanics could mean a lot more than a system change sometimes. But on the surface, it seems thechange salvaged his career.

 

[gamecock stock]

Perhaps it was just a fifference in qb coaching though. Something as simple as a qb coach improving your mechanics could mean a lot more than a system change sometimes. But on the surface, it seems thechange salvaged his career.

That was it. How many NFL QB stars has Saban produced? Just hope that Garrett does not have that touch.

 

[ToddFlanders]

Still think that Satt will benefit from having Matt Rhule hold his hand.

I definitely agree with this. Satt obviously has at least a "good" idea of what an offense should be - but left to his own devices it's clear that he has no idea of how to implement one. Rhule is a pro and will certainly help elevate Satt - if he doesn't take it over himself and lets Satt be the OC in name only.