Sayin already looks ahead of Drew

JVP_Yahweh

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Better supporting cast at oh state but Sayin 100% more decisive with the ball. Drew a better runner and needs to really do his best down the stretch with the pass
 

NittPicker

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Before almost every play, Drew has to flip through the mini playbook strapped to his wrist. Is that a common thing for a third-year starter??
 

MacNit

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Well Drew isn’t good.

He’ll finish out the year starting and playing every snap cause heaven forbid we try to get the next guy meaningful snaps. But he’s not good. Independent of the system or blocking, not good.
Pssst…don’t tell Lando!
 

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Franklin broke Allar much like he broke Hack..............

Honestly, I'm not sure he knows what he's doing.
If the NFL wasn’t on the table, Drew should have transferred after last year. This offense didn’t work for him and Franklin needs a running QB who takes risks to overcome this ineptitude on offense. Beck looks like a new man in Miami.
 

donaldfair71

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Before almost every play, Drew has to flip through the mini playbook strapped to his wrist. Is that a common thing for a third-year starter??
Which was not a thing AK’s Kansas teams used. I would bet his Buffalo starters didn’t either.

If it’s not crystal clear that 98% of this is Franklin don’t know what will convince people. JK and AK will leave and kill it again like before they came.

Mike Yurcich’s Youngstown State offense almost put up 500 yards today against South Dakota State. Another guy who just forgot ball in State College.
 

KingLando

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Well Drew isn’t good.

He’ll finish out the year starting and playing every snap cause heaven forbid we try to get the next guy meaningful snaps. But he’s not good. Independent of the system or blocking, not good.
You think Drew played poorly at all yesterday?
He's not good in your mind because of those things
Just like Allen doesn't have numbers because he doesn't get touches--imagine how much that would help any QB if your best back was utilized.
 
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donaldfair71

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You think Drew played poorly at all yesterday?
He's not good in your mind because of those things
Just like Allen doesn't have numbers because he doesn't get touches--imagine how much that would help any QB if your best back was utilized.
I don’t think he played well because I feel like he doesn’t get the ball out in rhythm often enough (seen many times yesterday), and he throws behind guys way too often.
Those are independent of production. In other words, the other 59:30 of the game isn’t causing him to be late way too often.
There was a throw in the first half that kind of embodied the Allar Experience. And they showed behind the play in replay. USC was in 1 high and Penn State ran kind of that double crosser post that everyone runs now to beat one high (we call it Yankee) and the safety rightly jumped the first crosser and bracketed. The guy opposite crossing flashed wide open. Allar had time and it’s a throw you see 80 times a Saturday. Walk in TD and not all that difficult a throw.
Allar gets nervous and throws the first bracketed crosser. Of course it’s incomplete because there’s nowhere to go with it.
So when I say he isn’t very good I’m already factoring in that he’s not getting time always and he’s working with a head coach who shouldn’t be anywhere near a sideline in 2025. You have to make certain throws and make certain decisions for me to think you’re good and he just doesn’t often enough.
 

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Heck, Duke has a better QB than Drew.

Darian Mensah (portal from Tulane) -- YTD 1,838 yds passing, 69.8% completion, 15 TD, 2 Int

And Manny's team also has a better WR than any PSU receiver -- Cooper Barkate transfer from Harvard -- 475 yds receiving so far, size, speed, moves, makes tough catches. Averages over 18 yds/catch
 
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KingLando

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I don’t think he played well because I feel like he doesn’t get the ball out in rhythm often enough (seen many times yesterday), and he throws behind guys way too often.
Those are independent of production. In other words, the other 59:30 of the game isn’t causing him to be late way too often.
There was a throw in the first half that kind of embodied the Allar Experience. And they showed behind the play in replay. USC was in 1 high and Penn State ran kind of that double crosser post that everyone runs now to beat one high (we call it Yankee) and the safety rightly jumped the first crosser and bracketed. The guy opposite crossing flashed wide open. Allar had time and it’s a throw you see 80 times a Saturday. Walk in TD and not all that difficult a throw.
Allar gets nervous and throws the first bracketed crosser. Of course it’s incomplete because there’s nowhere to go with it.
So when I say he isn’t very good I’m already factoring in that he’s not getting time always and he’s working with a head coach who shouldn’t be anywhere near a sideline in 2025. You have to make certain throws and make certain decisions for me to think you’re good and he just doesn’t often enough.
What are you talking about? You've created an untrue narrative.
He was absolutely great yesterday while being our leading rusher in an offense that does fit his strengths.
He had nothing to do with our loss yesterday. Nothing
"There was a throw in the first half" but you can't tell me the play as you're likely not understanding what you're seeing or the reads.
Are you sure he had time to throw and get to a fourth read because that almost never happens.
There's no nerves--absolutelyn--just another false narrative
Of coruse, you think he's looking at the wristband because he doesn't know the play lol
I can't with our fan base.
And, no, you're not factoring that in because the only true flaw is coaching but blame the kid that did everything humanly possible to win the game with his best offensive weapon on the bench for some unknown reason most of the day
 
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KingLando

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Heck, Duke has a better QB than Drew.

Darian Mensah (portal from Tulane) -- YTD 1,838 yds passing, 69.8% completion, 15 TD, 2 Int

And Manny's team also has a better WR than any PSU receiver -- Cooper Barkate transfer from Harvard -- 475 yds receiving so far, size, speed, moves, makes tough catches. Averages over 18 yds/catch
Do people comprehend data needs to be analyzed or....
 

donaldfair71

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Heck, Duke has a better QB than Drew.

Darian Mensah (portal from Tulane) -- YTD 1,838 yds passing, 69.8% completion, 15 TD, 2 Int

And Manny's team also has a better WR than any PSU receiver -- Cooper Barkate transfer from Harvard -- 475 yds receiving so far, size, speed, moves, makes tough catches
I’m not convinced Penn State doesn’t have a better QB than Allar. Almost hard to believe they wouldn’t.
 
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donaldfair71

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What are you talking about? You've created an untrue narrative.
He was absolutely great yesterday while being our leading rusher in an offense that does fit his strengths.
He had nothing to do with our loss yesterday. Nothing
"There was a throw in the first half" but you can't tell me the play as you're likely not understanding what you're seeing or the reads.
Are you sure he had time to throw and get to a fourth read because that almost never happens.
There's no nerves--absolutelyn--just another false narrative
Of coruse, you think he's looking at the wristband because he doesn't know the play lol
I can't with our fan base.
And, no, you're not factoring that in because the only true flaw is coaching but blame the kid that did everything humanly possible to win the game with his best offensive weapon on the bench for some unknown reason most of the day
Buddy I’m not going to get into this back and forth with you like others. We can set to ignore each other if you don’t want to have adult talk.
The wrist bands are play calls with numbers and the coaches send in the numbers and the qb looks at the number on the band and calls the play.
Do you have some kind of insecurity where you look at every single thing and try to look smarter than everyone else?
 

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What are you talking about? You've created an untrue narrative.
He was absolutely great yesterday while being our leading rusher in an offense that does fit his strengths.
He had nothing to do with our loss yesterday. Nothing
"There was a throw in the first half" but you can't tell me the play as you're likely not understanding what you're seeing or the reads.
Are you sure he had time to throw and get to a fourth read because that almost never happens.
There's no nerves--absolutelyn--just another false narrative
Of coruse, you think he's looking at the wristband because he doesn't know the play lol
I can't with our fan base.
And, no, you're not factoring that in because the only true flaw is coaching but blame the kid that did everything humanly possible to win the game with his best offensive weapon on the bench for some unknown reason most of the day
Boy, you are just brilliant at football! Why are you wasting time posting here instead of finishing your game prep for the NFL team you are coaching for?
 
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KingLando

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Buddy I’m not going to get into this back and forth with you like others. We can set to ignore each other if you don’t want to have adult talk.
The wrist bands are play calls with numbers and the coaches send in the numbers and the qb looks at the number on the band and calls the play.
Do you have some kind of insecurity where you look at every single thing and try to look smarter than everyone else?
Because you're wrong.
You're not having an adult conversation and if you can't have an honest one.
What do you think he's doing with the wristband? Tell me. You think he doesn't know what the play call is? Are you kidding me.
The lack of knowledge is terrifying bad sadly that's true me most fans.
Somehow, after yesterday's game, you think Drew's the problem. It's adorable.
 

KingLando

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Boy, you are just brilliant at football! Why are you wasting time posting here instead of finishing your game prep for the NFL team you are coaching for?
I'm sorry the truth bothers you. Maybe you should learn the game and watch more of it so you understand what's actually happening.
 

PSUwolf

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Going back to Sayin, the kid is SUPER accurate and you can tell that Day really likes him...... and keep in mind that Day was a QB coach in the NFL. And he's only a freshman

Drew, on the other hand, has not improved one bit in his time here. Just sad
 

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Because you're wrong.
You're not having an adult conversation and if you can't have an honest one.
What do you think he's doing with the wristband? Tell me. You think he doesn't know what the play call is? Are you kidding me.
The lack of knowledge is terrifying bad sadly that's true me most fans.
Somehow, after yesterday's game, you think Drew's the problem. It's adorable.
One last time:

lots of verbiage in play calls.
Hard to get all of it accurately relayed with signals or even the helmet system.
For speed’s sake, number them and coaches have the sheet, player has the band.
Coach calls in the number. Player looks at number. Calls the play.
Drew isn’t a good qb. You think he is. We can agree to disagree.
 

KingLando

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One last time:

lots of verbiage in play calls.
Hard to get all of it accurately relayed with signals or even the helmet system.
For speed’s sake, number them and coaches have the sheet, player has the band.
Coach calls in the number. Player looks at number. Calls the play.
Drew isn’t a good qb. You think he is. We can agree to disagree.
You're wrong on so many things and we'll see that come draft day in once he's in the NFL. Then you're going to be confused. Although you're likely someone that thought Walker and Washington shouldn't have entered the draft--admittedly a guess but a safe one.
He's not looking at the wristband to see the playcall--my head hurts.
 

KingLando

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Happy Sunday!
Great job admitting you just don't like him. Next you'll complain about his chain or the eye black after he played great in a losing effort
Only our fans would be attacking a QB who, despite being a pocket passer, was our leading rusher, didn't turn the ball over yet again, and was more than efficient despite the drops because they don't know he sport well enough.
Of the list of players responsible for the lost yesterday the only person lower on that list than Drew is Kaytron
 

NittPicker

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You're wrong on so many things and we'll see that come draft day in once he's in the NFL. Then you're going to be confused. Although you're likely someone that thought Walker and Washington shouldn't have entered the draft--admittedly a guess but a safe one.
He's not looking at the wristband to see the playcall--my head hurts.
About three times you've written he's not looking at the wrist band for the play call. So educate people like me who aren't football experts. Tell us what exactly he's looking at on the wristband.
 

donaldfair71

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Sayin looks great.
Pribula looks great.
Kids looking great everywhere.
But not at Penn State. Those kids at other schools must never get pressure off the edge or have the coaches make bad personnel decisions. Never seen a qb who needs every single thing perfect to take 3 steps plant and drive throws.
 

PSUwolf

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Being that Drew is from Ohio, does anyone know if OSU recruited him. If they did, was he a prime target......a backup plan.......did OSU offer him early ?
 
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KingLando

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oregon
Notre dame
Oregon.

Grace under pressure

Drew is sadly destined for Hacken-hood if he makes a roster. There’s no nevadas in theNFL.
Drew throughout his career rarely turns the ball over. That's not an opinion which is why you were so limited on games you could name. For the record, I wish he'd throw more picks because that would mean we opened up the offense instead of limiting him.
If he makes a roster lol
 

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Drew throughout his career rarely turns the ball over. That's not an opinion which is why you were so limited on games you could name. For the record, I wish he'd throw more picks because that would mean we opened up the offense instead of limiting him.
If he makes a roster lol
Grace under pressure! You can’t face facts
 

NittPicker

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Being that Drew is from Ohio, does anyone know if OSU recruited him. If they did, was he a prime target......a backup plan.......did OSU offer him early ?
IIRC, Drew committed to PSU after Ewers committed to OSU. I don't know how heavily OSU recruited him to that point. Then Ewers reclassified. OSU may have made overtures to Allar after that, but I don't know how hard their press was. Drew made it clear he was sticking with his commitment so maybe OSU decided to look elsewhere.
 
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You're wrong on so many things and we'll see that come draft day in once he's in the NFL. Then you're going to be confused. Although you're likely someone that thought Walker and Washington shouldn't have entered the draft--admittedly a guess but a safe one.
He's not looking at the wristband to see the playcall--my head hurts.
He will be in the NFL. And his career will be similar to Hackenburg’s. It is what it is.
 

KingLando

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Grace under pressure! You can’t face facts
The ND pick was a poor decision but also because the WR stopped on his route
The Oregon pick was a 50/50 ball in which his WR failed to make a play on it--he did exactly what he was supposed to do
The last Oregon pick was a bad throw--those happen.
 

KingLando

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He will be in the NFL. And his career will be similar to Hackenburg’s. It is what it is.
Based on what? The fact you all just can't get passed Hack.
It's honestly absurd that you all see Hack when you watch Allar. Just delusional.
There's valid reasons Allar, Arch and Nussmeier are struggling--thankfully NFL scouts see big picture.