SEC Shorts takes a direct shot at State

BulldogBlitz

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Damn.

Would have figured they would blame us for being too weak for tune up games.
 

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Maroon13

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It will be interesting to see how many Texas fans show up next year. We know, UTN, UGA and OM will fill up the east side.
 

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We are going to get left behind unless we make significant progress. The "cHaRtuR meMbur!!!" folks are in for a rude awakening. TV execs would love to replace us and they are who run this sport now.
Anyone who thinks we can't possibly be discarded at some point in time is willfully ignorant and not serious. There is always the chance that we get left behind. Always that chance.
 

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Incredibly they haven't simply forgotten we exist.
Probably trying to scope out a replacement. I've never watched SEC Shorts and didn't watch this one, but if that guy's a Texas fan, they don't get a vote till they've been in the SEC for 25 years. They're still on probation and screwed the pooch for the conference against Ohio State the other night.
 
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If the faculty can find buyers, it'll be full.
Ok can we stop repeating this lie?.... the faculty will have more maroon than any other section on the east side.

The east side has 8 full sections and 2 half sections. Faculty and Staff get 1.5 sections.

The problem is not enough alumni/fans are buying and attending in the remaining sections on the east side. Therefore these seats are up for grabs.
 

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It will be interesting to see how many Texas fans show up next year. We know, UTN, UGA and OM will fill up the east side.

I know a friend whose son works in athletic dept/ticketing and there is rumblings of the faculty being charged a "seating fee" to buy their faculty tickets just like everybody else pays this year. That may cut down on some of them buying and reselling them, but maybe not
 

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Anyone who thinks we can't possibly be discarded at some point in time is willfully ignorant and not serious. There is always the chance that we get left behind. Always that chance.
Yeah. And the last couple of years, it seems we've been doing everything in our power to make it as easy as possible for them to kick us to the curb if/when the time comes.
 

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Anyone who thinks we can't possibly be discarded at some point in time is willfully ignorant and not serious. There is always the chance that we get left behind. Always that chance.
Although an uncomfortable number of are fans are secertly rooting for this (I have no idea why?), it's not going to happen. The SEC/BIG 10 aren't going anywhere. They will not dissolve. A few teams may be added (UNC being the grand prize), but no one is being cut.
 
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I know a friend whose son works in athletic dept/ticketing and there is rumblings of the faculty being charged a "seating fee" to buy their faculty tickets just like everybody else pays this year. That may cut down on some of them buying and reselling them, but maybe not
I have sat from section 19 to 20 for more than a few years now. I'm charged a "seating fee" along with every other seat around me. We still have more opposing fans than home fans in my section for sec games.
 
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Anyone who thinks we can't possibly be discarded at some point in time is willfully ignorant and not serious. There is always the chance that we get left behind. Always that chance.
If that happens it will be because a new elite conference formed, which means the SEC no longer exists. I think that's a long way from happening. A long, long way.....I don't think anyone wants that. In other words, it's not an immediate concern. SEC is just fine having a few whipping boys in my opinion, and we're big enough that we get a few eyeballs.

Is there any example of a conference cutting someone for athletic performance? If so, I don't know about it. If anything, I think this last round of alignment woke people up at how much damage these major conferences could do and how close it could get to a super league, which again, nobody wants.
 

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I look at late 90s USCe and Vandy and have no fear of this happening. Add to this that we actually show up in basically every other sport, I feel good about our status.
 

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I know a friend whose son works in athletic dept/ticketing and there is rumblings of the faculty being charged a "seating fee" to buy their faculty tickets just like everybody else pays this year. That may cut down on some of them buying and reselling them, but maybe not
Faculty will have to pay the Bulldog Club seat (donation) fees. We got an email from Selmon on this. No real explanation why.
 

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It was the perfect storm for us to get in a hole for football. Leach passing right at the end of the 2022 football season at the same time as the NIL/transfer portal was coming about which was at the same time we had a neophyte, head-in-the-sand AD like John Cohen who left us way behind the curve in all of it while also being left with a first time basically interim HC in Arnette for a season who was then replaced by another first time HC who is also learning on the job. Couldn't have been worse timing for all of it.
 

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It was the perfect storm for us to get in a hole for football. Leach passing right at the end of the 2022 football season at the same time as the NIL/transfer portal was coming about which was at the same time we had a neophyte, head-in-the-sand AD like John Cohen who left us way behind the curve in all of it while also being left with a first time basically interim HC in Arnette for a season who was then replaced by another first time HC who is also learning on the job. Couldn't have been worse timing for all of it.
That pretty much sums it up.
 
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We are going to get left behind unless we make significant progress. The "cHaRtuR meMbur!!!" folks are in for a rude awakening. TV execs would love to replace us and they are who run this sport now.
Yes. Let the truth run through you.
 

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Although an uncomfortable number of are fans are secertly rooting for this (I have no idea why?), it's not going to happen. The SEC/BIG 10 aren't going anywhere. They will not dissolve. A few teams may be added (UNC being the grand prize), but no one is being cut.
No one is secretly rooting for this. We just are aware of the possibility.

My theory remains that we will always be a member of the SEC. Its just that Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, and Florida may not play SEC football in the future. And there's about five spots available in the new TV-driven era of college football and Ole Miss is competing for one of them. The SEC will still exist as is in other sports.
 

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No one is secretly rooting for this. We just are aware of the possibility.

My theory remains that we will always be a member of the SEC. Its just that Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, and Florida may not play SEC football in the future. And there's about five spots available in the new TV-driven era of college football and Ole Miss is competing for one of them. The SEC will still exist as is in other sports.
Dude absolutely none of that is happening. In what idiotic universe would our big dogs leave and join another conference and have to "share" power with the likes of TOSU, Mich, ND, USC, etc. The Big 10 and SEC run college football. They will not be part of the move forward, they are the move forward. Why this is hard to understand is beyond me? Think of it this way, the most beautiful woman in your small town has it made, she's popular, can marry the richest guy in town, etc. Now if she moves to LA, she goes from small town 10 to Hollywood 6 and eventually ends up in porn. So she's staying in small town USA.

The SEC/Big 10 are staying as is (why would they change?). They may add a team or two, but outside of ND and UNC there aren't a ton of prizes left. The top tier teams in the ACC and big 12 are safe, the mid and bottom tier should be worried. 60sih teams is probably the right number for whatever comes next.
 
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Dude absolutely none of that is happening. In what idiotic universe would our big dogs leave and join another conference and have to "share" power with the likes of TOSU, Mich, ND, USC, etc. The Big 10 and SEC run college football. They will not be part of the move forward, they are the move forward. Why this is hard to understand is beyond me? Think of it this way, the most beautiful woman in your small town has it made, she's popular, can marry the richest guy in town, etc. Now if she moves to LA, she goes from small town 10 to Hollywood 6 and eventually ends up in porn. So she's staying in small town USA.

The SEC/Big 10 are staying as is (why would they change?). They may add a team or two, but outside of ND and UNC there aren't a ton of prizes left. The top tier teams in the ACC and big 12 are safe, the mid and bottom tier should be worried. 60sih teams is probably the right number for whatever comes next.
Here is the fear that the lower teams in the SEC/B1G and most of the ACC and Big 12 have.

Let's just look at the SEC numbers. The current contract is $3 billion/10 years. $300 million per year. Divided by 17 (16 schools + conference share), it's roughly $18 million per year per school just on the TV contract.

When the next round of negotiations happen, Amazon/Apple/Peacock, the streaming giants are going to want a piece of the SEC. Say they are willing to pay $500 million per year, but the Amazon Sports executive say they want some changes. There's a backdoor meeting between the athletic directors at Alabama, Georgia and Florida. The presidents get involved. The Alabama president is friends with the Ohio State president, and they all agree to meet in Nashville with the Amazon execs. Amazon wants big time matchups and they really don't care about Northwestern vs. Illinois or Vanderbilt vs. Mississippi State.

The President at Southern Cal proposes something interesting $1 billion per year for a CFB super league of 24 teams. Now the payout is $42 million per school instead of $18 million. Enrollment is down because of the cliff and the schools could use the money. The elephant in the room is the USC President is right - we don't really need the Northwesterns and the Mississippi States. We need to call Notre Dame to see if they are interested, but what if the SEC's Big 7 (Bama, UGA, Florida, Texas, Texas A&M, Tennessee and LSU) and the B1G's Big 7 (OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Nebraska, UCLA, USC and Oregon) and Notre Dame get the ball rolling. Clemson and Florida State make sense, so we have 17 teams already. Who are the final 7?

The Oregon President wants Washington to come along, and the SEC presidents like Oklahoma. We have five spots remaining. Colorado is one of the most watched teams - How about taking them from the Big 12? SMU is on a roll and has a lot of money and Dallas.

A lot of jockeying amongst the Ole Miss/South Carolina/BYU tier and the big market teams like Stanford/Cal/Maryland/Georgia Tech. Media pressure says they should look at a G5 team like Tulane or Boise State. In the end, they expand to 32, up the contract to $1.2 billion (1/8 the cost of the NFL for 1/2 the ratings) and take Boise State and the aforementioned. The 32 schools double their annual TV money and the rest of FBS is relegated to ESPN+.

Four divisions of eight works out perfectly for scheduling. Everyone plays 7 division games and rotates 4 non-division games. In a six year period (the new eligibility standard), you play everyone in major college football at least once. Your division champions get a bye in the new CFP playoff, and the 2nd place teams host the 3rd place teams in the first round. No polls or committees. Top three in each division make the playoff.
 
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If that happens it will be because a new elite conference formed, which means the SEC no longer exists. I think that's a long way from happening. A long, long way.....I don't think anyone wants that. In other words, it's not an immediate concern. SEC is just fine having a few whipping boys in my opinion, and we're big enough that we get a few eyeballs.

Is there any example of a conference cutting someone for athletic performance? If so, I don't know about it. If anything, I think this last round of alignment woke people up at how much damage these major conferences could do and how close it could get to a super league, which again, nobody wants.
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